Representing

30 05 2008

One of the most annoying things about being black is the fact that, for non-blacks who don’t interact frequently with black people, the impression they have of the entire black race is typically based on the impression they got from the last black person they’ve seen.

Figure 1: And it’s always this guy.

As a result of this, conscientious black folks tend to look at themselves as ‘ambassadors’ for their race in a way virtually no other race does (or really has to). SBP (successful black people) and their nose-in-the-air EBP (educated black people)* counterparts are particularly guilty of this. In many situations, we take it upon ourselves to represent the true nature and capabilities of the race towards those whose impressions of black people come from loud and foul-mouthed children on the Metro and Yo MTV Raps. The worst part is…we do it unconsciously. At no time was I more aware of this than when I recently took a technical certification exam.

For those who don’t know, a technical certification is something you get after you take an exam to prove you know how to do something that you’ve probably been doing for years anyway. This is why technical certifications are fucking ridiculous. The typical experience involves you going to some lonely low-rent building somewhere staffed by employees who aren’t really used to people showing up. After 15 minutes of unanswered phone calls and banging on the door, someone finally wakes up and lets you in. Once you’ve filled out a little bit of paperwork, you are locked in a windowless camera-monitored room where you sit for 3 – 4 hours trying to do two things: a.) pass the test and b.) remember not to pick your nose, scratch you ass, or adjust your nuts because you know you’re being watched.

Figure 2: By this guy

You’re informed immediately whether or not you’ve passed the test, and you walk out to the office where the staffer already has your results printout which almost always has “PASS” or “FAIL” written in big bold letters somewhere. For all the tech exams I’ve taken before, I was absolutely MORTIFIED at the idea that I’d walk out of the test room and have this fucker sneering at me on the inside because I’d failed an exam. But for my most recent exam, I didn’t seem to care what the staffer thought. I had an odd sense of calm about the prospect of failing the exam which is highly uncharacteristic of me. It wasn’t until I’d passed the stupid exam and was on the train heading home when I suddenly realized why I’d been so calm:

This was the first time the staffer was black.

For each other exam I took, the staffer was asian – and my subconscious immediately told me “You are a representative of your people. If you fail this exam, you will make black people look fucking retarded. Asian people will have more trumped up evidence that black people are dumb and don’t belong in technical fields. The viability of career equality between the races hinges on you passing this exam. You must not fail. Martin and Malcolm are watching you.”

Figure 3: After I passed.

With a black staffer, though, I didn’t feel judged. The guy felt familiar. We cracked a couple of jokes while he was registering me. The exam was about me passing muster instead of being about the validity of all blacks in engineering. As I thought about the ridiculousness of this on the train, I began shaking my head and swearing quietly to myself. Some chick saw this and moved to the other end of the car.

Just think about all the incidents where you’ve found yourself ‘representing’ in front of non-blacks to break stereotypes:

  • Giving people extra friendly greetings in the hallway to counter the ‘angry black man’ stereotype
  • Intentionally and unnecessarily speaking foreign languages in front of other people to counter the ‘uncultured’ black man stereotype
  • Airballing a jumpshot to counter the ‘all black people love and excel at basketball’ stereotype
  • Walking around campus with your nose buried in a calculus book to counter the ‘all black people major in african american studies’ stereotype
  • Overdressing at clubs/lounges to counter the ‘black people only know how to dress ‘urban” stereotype
  • Refusing to buy a Cadillac, Ford Expedition, or other giant SUV (with or without rims) for…fairly obvious reasons
  • Ordering bizarre exotic food like ostrich, alligator, or shark to counter the ‘black people only eat chicken and catfish’ stereotype
  • Blasting Blink 182 or Foo Fighters (even if you hate it) to counter the ‘black people only like hip hop and jazz’ stereotype

Figure 4: Where I go to rest after a long day of fighting stereotypes…

* EBP is a term I’ve always had difficulty swallowing. In the pragmatic sense, it typically applies to black doctors, lawyers, and MBAs with stratospheric incomes which is fine with me**. Unfortunately, the literal interpretation of the term has also allowed idiots with multiple Ivy league English or Philosophy degrees and no prospects to apply the moniker to themselves as well. The fact that I would be lumped in with these clowns (and the truckloads of pompous shitbrickery associated with the balance of EBP outside of the clowns) is why I will never refer to myself as an EBP. Instead, I prefer the term ‘SBP’ which gives credit where credit is due – credit to those who have attained some sort of objectively measurable and responsible (this keeps out entertainers on Viacom’s payroll) success, regardless of education level (or, more realistically, level of pretense). Not every SBP is an EBP, and not every EBP is an SBP. Thank God.

** Except I have a well documented hatred of attorneys who aren’t a.) criminal prosecutors, b.) family lawyers, or c.) intellectual property lawyers

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30 05 2008
Esquire

** Except I have a well documented hatred of attorneys who aren’t a.) criminal prosecutors, b.) family lawyers, or c.) intellectual property lawyers

Awwwwwww Chris. Attorneys get a bad rap.

I still love you though.

And I always rep for my hood bbbbbbbwawawawa

30 05 2008
vitazza

so guity…….will blast foo fighters, or personal fav black crowes while rollin thru “the other” areas……..shame on me

30 05 2008
Siggyboss

I’ve done the same – try to convince others that blacks aren’t this or that. In the reality, it’s all about trying to stop others from stereotyping me – the Invisible Man complex and a great book. Non-blacks can stereotype others all that want. One then has to find an effective way of successfully communicating your individuality – assuming you even want to. The easiest method is becoming famous or even infamous. Everyone knows who you are, and you have ample opportunities to update them via media appearances (you’re famous/infamous remember). Otherwise, you become part of background, and the background is currently basketball playing rappers protecting their alleged drug turf while fornicating with beautiful women. I don’t mind the latter, but feel the need to distinguish myself from the former.

30 05 2008
Shine

Haha! My mom didn’t let us order KFC to the house when we were kids cuz we were the only black family on the block. She didn’t want them thinking we were too lazy to drive up to KFC and get our chicken. I had to go around the corner to my white friends house to order for the first time. Damn white people and their ignorant assumptions…

30 05 2008
Shine

This also goes back to the discussion on tipping we had before. I’m spending extra money just to prove I’m not a no tipping negro and that black people should get some respect from waiters.

30 05 2008
Quiet Storm

“Giving people extra friendly greetings in the hallway to counter the ‘angry black man’ stereotype”

Guilty. In order to counter the ‘black woman who always have an attitude’ stereotype. I might even stop to ask them how they are doing like I really care.

30 05 2008
tokenDesigner

It’s like you wiretapped my phone yesterday.
I do blast classical music and the occasional White Stripes album. Avoiding chicken during a corporate lunch just sounds a little extreme- everyone loves chicken. You can just mask it by making some eco-smug remark like “eating beef is bad for global warming” or some crap.

To “represent” at work, almost every black designer uses the most “corporate”, minimalist, white-space using style possible- refusing to use any graffiti fonts, the colors red, black, and green (together), and/or “slap some sexy” on any “urban” targeted media that comes our way.

*”slap some sexy on it” is a term used by my white counterparts whenever they want someone to slap some “bling”, money, or other shiny material on websites, opening credits, gameshow graphics, or print media in order to appeal to what they think black kids like (usually implemented on BET accounts- i shit thee not).

30 05 2008
stuffgirlshlike

Chris have you got a chip on your shoulder against the philosophy?

Educated Black People do not want to walk around represensenting but they are better than cthe cliches and stereotypes which are played out by rappers.

You have to feel sorry for people who need to fight hard not be associated with pimps and baby fathers. I wish more of today’s youth was influenced by EBP.

http://stuffgirlslike.wordpress.com

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Man, this is so true! My dad just bought a Cadillac and told me that he struggled with that decision….for obvious reasons. I have a personal rule against eating chicken with bones in it at the work place or at work functions. A breast? Yes. A drumstick? No can do. I feel like they’re all looking at me like, “Look at her…she LOVES IT!!…just like it said in the encyclopedia. Also, if for some reason the subject of rap music ever comes up, and they ask me if I know that song that their little 12 year old likes to do the new dance to (Thank. You. Soulja Boy.) …I just give them a real puzzled look, furrowed brow and all, and feign ignorance. I love that damn dance.

30 05 2008
stuffgirlshlike

@ Quiet storm

The media has run with the angry black woman stereotype and it might be the case of life imitating art.

30 05 2008
mehugtree

there is a white equivalent to:

Giving people extra friendly greetings in the hallway to counter the ‘angry black man’ stereotype

It’s being extra, extra friendly to black folks to show how accepting you are. I can think of a couple times I’ve been guilty of this in the past. Then I realized it was usually just met with mistrust.

ps. great blog!

30 05 2008
vitazza

somone said they hoped there company would block this site so they could get some work done…………why is ehffin surf control all over sbph today!!!!! THANX NOW I’m pissed……. I have to work now

30 05 2008
theblacksentinel

I guess I am the one black person who couldn’t give a damn what white people think. I don’t go out of my way to prove anything to anyone since it doesn’t matter. If they are stupid enough to believe that all blacks are like those they see on television then I won’t be counteracting that programming anytime soon.

Also, if we have so many blacks out providing whites with this alternative view of blacks then why do they still harbor these stereotypes? Just wondering. Anyway, I do like Blink 182 and many, many other bands of that genre. It just doesn’t matter. I am successful and feel that if they are looking at me like I just popped out of a rap video then too bad.

What would happen if blacks started looking at all white people as if they were the loser kid skateboarding in the parking lot, cursing and cracking their head wide open. The newest Klan member or white power member. Or how about a member of the band Slipknot or any other thrash metal band. Would they then turn around and work to make sure that I understood they were nothing like these people? Of course not, since they are all individuals NOT like us who are all one big collective of the same person.

Thanks

30 05 2008
sarah

its so funny because i hate representing so much that i try hard not to. when i used to hang out with the white girls in undergrad, i would make a point to look real urban with my big ass silver hoops and my hair all puffed in a ponytail.

i will say though, being a chemist and loving math, i like to read calculus and orgo chem books for fun. i get excited when i see you put up those satirical integral equations cause derivatives turn me on a bit.

30 05 2008
klysha

Working in a heavily older white male dominant field I feel like I live my life “representing” and I have an immense hatred of being in this position. One time I was on travel and had to share a rental car for an hour long ride with my supervisor a white guy in his 50s who is otherwise a pretty good guy (despite his incomprehensible affection for NASCAR) and he turned the radio in the rental car to an “urban” station and a song by the Ying Yang twins came on the radio. He turns to me and asks me what some non-sensical ying yang vernacular meant and says “I know you know what this means! Isn’t this your music?” This put me in an awkward position. I had to sit there and decide whether I was annoyed, offended, or relieved that he finally turned off the light rock that we had been listening to the rest of the ride. At the time I felt all three but I had to decide which of those emotions I should base my response on. I felt like explaining whatever the hell it was the Ying Yang twins were saying would be validating his stereotype, while going slap off on him for assuming I listened to Ying Yang Twins because I’m black could potentially be career limiting in the long term and make for an uncomfortable ride in the short term. So I let it go and said “I have no idea what they’re talking about” which was at least half true. To this day a part of me wishes I had have said something that would have dispelled all stereotypes about black people from his mind but the rest of me remembers a) there’s nothing I could have said that would have done that and b) I don’t really care all that much what he thinks I listen to anyway.

30 05 2008
Roger

It’s so fucking insidious. I always find myself in my car with the windows down and listening to Anita Baker when somebody rolls up in their tricked out 1978 Monte Carlo blasting…some rapper I’ve never heard of. I then turn Anita up–of course, it’s a futile gesture, as I have factory speakers, not some Kenwood/Alpine/JVC monster system that could probably be heard from fuckin’ Mars. It’s a combination of me approaching “old as fuck” and my latent bougieness.

30 05 2008
Shine

I guess growing up in a white neighborhood dealing with the massive ignorance made me this way. But I just now realized why I love going to the caribbean so much. B/c black people are the majority and they don’t have to deal with non-black people’s ignorant assumptions or proving their blackness to other black people on a regular basis. Or at least that’s what I feel like when I go there.

30 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

I’ve been moving slowly away from this complex, but am still affected by it. Basically, one of my mantras is “Fuck you YT, and your bullshit monolithic blanket you’re trying to lay on me. FOH.”

It works pretty well for me. It prevents me from unnecessary shows or proof that I’m cultured, well read, edumucated, etc.

But I’m not gonna lie, I *did* think twice about getting that fried catfish at teh buffet for lunch yesterday. I went with the sushi instead.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

I blast Jazz to refute the Black people only like Hip-Hop stereotype! LOL. I think most White people have realized that most Black folks don’t listen to Jazz anymore. I hate Black people for that. I also blast Arrested Development and Gil Scott Heron when I am stuck in Manhattan traffic, so Whitey can know how I REALLY feel! Ooh, and the Phillip Coran Malcolm X Tribute CD my dad gave me really does the job:

What man is our enemy?
Who perfected slavery?
Took our souls and made us be
Fools without a memory/
Always talkin brotherhood
White man you just ain’t no good
Now we have you understood
Malcolm X is kindling wood/

I had to learn this as a child, btw.

30 05 2008
miss kate

for stuffgirlslike:

For me, the thing that is a turnoff about people who describe themselves as “EBP” has little to do with what degrees or whatever they’ve acquired (says the abd English PhD candidate) but the annoying stick-permanently-up-ass-mouth-permanently-curled-in-sneer-and-primed-to-one-up-you attitude they often have. How are you supposed to “influence” people you obviously look down on?

30 05 2008
mrspen

too true. it’s amazing how many things there are too hate.

i got a bone to pick (pun unintended) though– popeye’s chris?? you’ve obviously you never had bojangle’s (and yes i ignore the oh so not subtle racism in that name because that chicken is too good!).

30 05 2008
mrspen

yes, i know i used the wrong form of that damn homophone.

it’s still funny how many things there are TO hate. 🙂

30 05 2008
klysha

@tokendesigner
I ams so mad at the term “slap some sexy on it”

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

I went to Howard partially because I HATE having to represent. I hate buying watermelon in the grocery store (even though I lubs it). I hate listenting to Rap music around them. I hate feeling like if I slip in to BVE *, I have confirmed the validity of BET. I hate feeling like I have to explain that I don’t eat fried chicken, yes I eat tofu and tempeh and hummus like I hate 50 cent, yes I am voting for Obama, no his pastor is not crazy, he’s fucking right I didn’t grow up in the ghetto, yes I live in the ghetto now, no I am not gonna help you find a ‘cool’ apartment around my “developing” area, I moved there to get away from you…argh.

*Black Vernacular English aka Ebonics aka when I say “I’m finna be drunk all night. Hell to the yeah.” instead of “I plan to imbibe a lot of alcohol this evening, pip pip cheerio”

30 05 2008
Knatural

Oh My God! My life. And the ‘break stereotypes’ list – perfect. And I grew up here in DC (mainly NW, NE and now live in SE). Sometimes I feel like it’s more about breaking the stereotypes for other Blacks, not Whites. It’s so other Blacks can see it’s ok to be a multi-dimensional human being and not a cartoon. And alligator and shark are delicious damnit.

30 05 2008
Esquire

BTW Chris since I am truly hurt by her hatred of attorneys, I will just tell you that family lawyers are some of the meanest hateful people on the planet. People who get some sense of joy from keeping fathers who havent done anything wrong from thier children are just mean. Divorce attorneys are like little spawns from hell, they are so fucking mean…and are mostly all single or divorced…I digress.

My favorite spot on Dave Chappelle’s show was when he INSISTED on eating the beef on the airplane instead of the chicken. LOL

I dont care. I will get fried chicken in a minute. I ALWAYS eat the watermelon unlike our sole black intern who I noticed picked up only the honeydew and kiwi on the fruit tray during thier welcome to “Hell” aka “The firm” brunch.

Hey, watermelon is a sweet and nutritrous fruit. It should be enjoyed by all races.

30 05 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

One episode of The Man Show (Adam Corolla and Jimmy Kimmel, a lot of fake tits and beer) featured a segment called “Women We Hate.” One of those women was called “Claire Huxtable” which featured an educated black woman who could go from “Harvard to Harlem in 2.2 seconds,” when she disagrees with a man, demonstrated by a black woman (coon!) dressed in business attire who proceeded to “go off” in a streotypically black fashion, full of expletives, neck/eye rolling, etc. . .

That episode is forever imprinted in my brain and as a result:
“Giving people extra friendly greetings in the hallway to counter the ‘angry black man’ stereotype”

That’s me, ALL DAY EVERY DAY. So now when i encounter a disagreement, i deny my first instinct, which is to put a hand on my hip, call you a mother fucker and roll my eyes at you, and instead verbally assault you with the five syllable words I learned when I studied for the GRE, while keeping my hands firmly clasped in front of me, maintaing steady eye contact. While this makes me seem more menacing, it’s definitely not more fun.

I laughed at this post but on the inside i cried a little.

30 05 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

LMAO @ pip pip cheerio . . . Hilarious ST

30 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

SisterToldja, in NYC traffic I’ve recently started blasting Salsa (Hector Lavoe, Willie Colon, Ruben Blades), Cuban Timba (Los Van Van), the Smiths, rocksteady, and early jazz (Louis Armstrong, King Oliver, Jelly Roll Morton) just to confuse EVERYBODY.

30 05 2008
Vanita

Yes, yes, its true and I am very guilty of all of it.
I ALWAYS do it @ work, I feel so damn fake. But dont let a Biggie, Pac or SOLJA BOY song come on the damn internet radio Im ALWAYS listening to, ALL these PEOPLE decide to frequent my desk, asking me what I think about the song. Personally, I prefer to read and learn (it really turns me on) and Im not that really in to music like most people I know. So I just look at THEM like they’re crazy (Did anybody see the Steven Colbert show when they were talkin about Black people having their own silent language? I really need some one to feel me right now) thinking in my head “if you don’t get the f–k outta my damn face so I can continue to look @ my friends make a fool of themselves on YouTube…” But instead I just smile and say no, maybe they will get the point and LEAVE me the F–K alone…

Sorry, I really dont like the people I work with…

30 05 2008
Vanita

Thanks Mrs. Kennedy, I think you feel me…

30 05 2008
shabooty

chris represents vicariously thru his bastardly friends. 🙂
like when one of his friends is walking on campus and yells, “EHH LEME GET DAT WALLET, SON!!” -Tom Harkin 2004 (TM)
or another one sees a chick in blue booty shorts, “YO BABY BLUEE BUTTT!!!”
those were the days…
sigh.

30 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Unquestionably the best way to confuse people is to do what Admiral Furious and I do:

Drive around with your friend blasting a classical piece featuring either a harpsichord or piano (this is important), while yelling, screaming, and cursing about the merits of the oboe vs. the clarinet (each friend should pick a side) in the most hood voice you can muster and as loudly as humanly possible.

30 05 2008
Esquire

OMG…that is hilarious. Who fights over the oboe and clarinet?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Giving people extra friendly greetings in the hallway to counter the ‘angry black man’ stereotype
Intentionally and unnecessarily speaking foreign languages in front of other people to counter the ‘uncultured’ black man stereotype
Airballing a jumpshot to counter the ‘all black people love and excel at basketball’ stereotype
Walking around campus with your nose buried in a calculus book to counter the ‘all black people major in african american studies’ stereotype
Overdressing at clubs/lounges to counter the ‘black people only know how to dress ‘urban” stereotype
Refusing to buy a Cadillac, Ford Expedition, or other giant SUV (with or without rims) for…fairly obvious reasons
Ordering bizarre exotic food like ostrich, alligator, or shark to counter the ‘black people only eat chicken and catfish’ stereotype
Blasting Blink 182 or Foo Fighters (even if you hate it) to counter the ‘black people only like hip hop and jazz’ stereotype

Im guilty of atleast 1/2 of these you listed… I dont do it on purpose but.. I guess you can say i do these things so when i am a round people of different background..non-blacks they dont look at me like im another Laquisha on the block who has 2 baby daddies and lives in the projects. I hate it when ppl ask me when i lived in DC did i live in Southeast…gooddamit not all black ppl live in SOUTHFUCKINGEAST YOU CUM SWALLOWER!!!!! >:-O

ST-*Black Vernacular English aka Ebonics aka when I say “I’m finna be drunk all night. Hell to the yeah.” instead of “I plan to imbibe a lot of alcohol this evening, pip pip cheerio”

hahaha girl you are tooo crazyyyy…

30 05 2008
Vanita

OMG! Clearly the Clairnet is a far superior instrument (hehe, i played it for 3 years)

30 05 2008
Knatural

No. Oboe. Oboe’s a funnier word.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

The funniest shit was when me and my man were drving around in DC and blasting Punk Rock for example…Hed(p.e)

and i swear all these black dudes turned and looked at the same time and looked so confused to see too black ppl in the car playing music like that…but we play it because we like it haha

30 05 2008
shabooty

chicks who play trombone love the rusty trombone
those that play the trumpet like to give little sucklez on tha cock but always spit via the spit valve
chicks who play violin like balls on their chin.
=)
$

30 05 2008
Charlee

I’m in family law. Do you hate me? I’m growing a hatred for you! For a real definition of EBP (educated black people), check out the site.

stuffebplike.com

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

I played Clarinet for 2 yrs…and i fuckin hated it i wanted to learn to play the drums…dammit

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30 05 2008
Dustin

The Oboe is overrated. Then again, so is the clarinet. Every 13 year-old girl plays it.

Isn’t like everyone who comments here an atty or in law school?

HOLD THE PHONE!!!!!! Where did Shine grow up where you could have KFC delivered? I’m so jealous. If Popeye’s delivered, I would have already died of a heart attack.

I’m too self-centered to represent.

30 05 2008
shabooty

I played the SAX –the say they set up the seating order was the best player on one end and the suckiest at the end.

in 9th grade being in the LAST chair, and having azns in the row behind me being assholes, I knew I had to retire….

sigh…..

30 05 2008
shabooty

the way*

30 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH@Shabooty! Why!?!?! I played yazz flute in junior high.
KFC in Trinidad delivers; it’s like heaven. All that accessible fried chicken and biscuits, but nobody’s fat.

30 05 2008
Lindsay

@ Dustin –

It sure seems like it. Me? I’m in journalism, and the lone black person up in here. Sigh.

30 05 2008
sarah

Knatural, i agree completely. i too grew up in downtown DC but now live at the Navy Yard and i feel like i have to rep more to BP than WP. i have NEVER felt the need to rep for WP. i hang out with them and when they ask me to pick a song on the box, i pick shit that i personally listen to, not what i think would blow their mind, although my music preferences are quite varied.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Im in Journalism as well Lindsay..and what is this i hear of KFC delivers???!! GASP thats cool as ish…hahaha back when i use to smoke newports..yes i know young dumb and full of cum…when i was lazy i wish that the corner store delivered..sigh…shows how committed i was to smoking if i didnt even want to walk a block to the corner store..

Dustin my love hahah u crackerjack…yea whats up with that every 13 yr old girl i knew when i was 13 played the flute or the clarinet…my mom wouldnt let me learnt he drums she said it was to noisey..but i recently picked up the air guitar 🙂

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

chicks who play trombone love the rusty trombone
those that play the trumpet like to give little sucklez on tha cock but always spit via the spit valve
chicks who play violin like balls on their chin

damn you shababy…

30 05 2008
shabooty

mrs epps=guitar hero buppie

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

guitar hero buppie..hahah i wish… still working on getting my ps3…

30 05 2008
Vanita

Knatural – Any KFC in Trinidad does not count…KFC’s in Trinidad (or any other caribbean nation) are social hangouts on any day of the week esp. Fridays…

Dustin – So what I was 13 when I played?! I really wanted to play the Sax, but our underfunded public school didnt have any…And I was damn good with my instrument THANK YOU because I went on play in the Solo Ensamble for the state. LOL. damn, I was a NERD!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Vanita-And I was damn good with my instrument THANK YOU because I went on play in the Solo Ensamble for the state. LOL. damn, I was a NERD!

smh..at my middle school they had regular band and honors band then advanced band…i was in HONORS BAND!!! and I was the shit!!!

30 05 2008
shabooty

HONORS BAND
omg UBER NERB!!!!

did you smoke candy cigarettes, too?
:]

30 05 2008
Cheekie

Lost it @ Popeyes is where you go after a long day of fighting stereotypes. It’s utopia, man. I totally had that choir singing in my head while lookin’ at that picture. You know how in movies a character sees something that gives him complete bliss and a light shines on it while the heavenly choir vocalizes?

Why did my slow ass read this title and thought “representing” was going to talk about black people screamin’ “[insert trendy urban city here] represent!” or something of the like? ESPECIALLY after seeing that pic of Lil’ Jon. Anyhow, I like the interpretation you went with better.

And dammit this was a good entry. Hopefully a future entry will be about “representin'” amongst OURSELVES. That Blink 182 blasting thing reminded of the “not black enough” argument that NEVER stops. NEVER.

30 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

Personally, I thought the oboe was much cooler…every friggin’ body wanted to play the clarinet, which diminished its uniqueness for me…but I digress.
In any event, I WAS the black girl in all the honors and gifted classes growing up…until I hit high school, there was never any others with me. 10th grade, a black guy decided to go ahead and join us…he was HIGHLY effeminate and his best friend was this Asian Mormon dude. We’d all sit and bitch about how the YTs always asked us dumb shit like, “Don’t all black people like this?” or “Say, listen to this hot new *insert gangsta rapper here* cut”. There were times I might indulge, and then times where I was NOT the one and would be like “Am I the only freakin’ black person you know?” They’d be like, “um, yeah, the only one I know WELL”. I’d shake my head. 12th grade, I had an IDIOT english teacher who told me (upon the class finding out we’d be reading Their Eyes Were Watching God), “J, you can help teach the class during that study”. I looked at her CRAZY…and then the black guy says to me, “Why does she assume YOU want to do that?” That started a CRAZY gripe session right there.

Nowadays, I rep, if only to show that (a) all black folks don’t listen to (or like) rap and (b) yeah, we eat things other than chicken and watermelon. I have no qualms about driving down the street with the windows down and blasting something like Daft Punk. I have no qualms about walking around the grocery store with a basket full of fruits and veggies (including watermelon…white folks be all next to me buying it too!) and hummus (wish I had some right now). I have no qualms about rocking a natural and it not being a political statement…I simply choose not to put damaging chemicals in my hair.

To sum up…I would think everyone would want to be well-rounded, despite their “race”, n’est-ce pas?

30 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

So true. Being Black and making it past age 21 in America pretty much qualifies as having a degree in psychology. We always have to be conscious of ourselves and what everybody else is thinking. I like to think of it as an internalized, milder version of paranoia. In keeping with yesterday’s post on feminism, I was recently reading a book on perception. In a chapter on how women are depicted in art, the author made the point that while men “see themselves,” women “see themselves being seen.” Meaning they have a constant, unconscious awareness of how they appear to others. I think the same could probably be said for Black people…at least that’s how I feel, anyway.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

shut up SHABABY!!! no i didnt smoke candy ciggs… ^_^ and yes i was i nerd o well..i was in badn for one yr and chours for 2 yrs but this was in middle school..once i hit high school..i was nothing but cherrleading, POMS, Softball and Soccer woot woot oh and a pot head hahah

30 05 2008
shabooty

Fruity Pebble….I see you in a big vat of milk. no homo.

…I used to hide my dubb-sack in the spit valve, but it’d always get soggy…doh.
jk

$

30 05 2008
Knatural

Vanita – Trinis turn anything into a social hangout. If only KFC served alcohol.
Sarah – isn’t it sad? So many of our fellow District of Columbians 🙂 remain so stagnant and refuse to expand their taste. If I witness one more full grown man blasting Go-Go so loudly through his earbuds that I hear it at 8am on the train going to work – I may have an aneurysm.
Fruity Pebble – which book were you reading?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

..tries to ignore shia’s random ass

“Fruity Pebble….I see you in a big vat of milk. no homo”.

fuckin aye lol

30 05 2008
rai

ooooh the PE. . . I have heard horror stories. . . glad I switched my major. . . well kinda.

30 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

@ Knatural: Ways of Seeing by John Berger. Short book, but he makes some pretty interesting assertions about representations and their functions.

30 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“I’m in family law. Do you hate me? I’m growing a hatred for you! For a real definition of EBP (educated black people), check out the site.”

If I didn’t adore you, I wouldn’t pick on you 😉

30 05 2008
Vanita

Knatural – Touche.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Vanita – It wasn’t Stephen Colbert, it was on The Daily Show and it was hilarious! It was Larry Wilmore, the Senior Black Correspondent. I tried to find the video but I couldn’t. However I did find another video – one of my favorite Daily Show segments of all time. Totally unrelated:

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=90948

30 05 2008
Dustin

Honors band? Oh no. I was in IB choir. You can’t get dorkier than that. I have six gold medals from Solo and Ensemble. I was also all-region and all-state. And yes, those patches were on my letter jacket. Actually, I lettered in choir. Seriously. My letter jacket has the theater patch (gay), the choir patches, and the JROTC patch (I was a batallion officer).

No wonder I didn’t have any friends.

30 05 2008
ishouldbeworking

I hated representing in my grad course where the class consisted of 4 white chicks, a girl from Moraco, a guy from Armenia, and a guy from Azerbaijan, a white teacher. It was a communications studies course and one day the teacher went off on a tangent about old media versus new media and his love of Jazz on vinyl. This mofo asked me why rappers now try to imitate the old cracking and hissing sounds that you used to hear on old records. I gave him my best WTF face and politely responded that I didn’t know rappers were doing that. So being black makes me the resident authority on rap music riiiiiiight. In another class with similar demographics but a Swedish girl, Indian girl and a guy from London I was asked why the Black church doesn’t do more to promote the prevention of the spread of HIV/AIDS in the Black community to which I responded that I didn’t go to a Black church but rather a church and that my church promotes the prevention of the spread of HIV/AIDS in all communities.

Sheesh.

30 05 2008
Deesigner

“….women see themselves as being seen…” That is head on. FP what book is this from?

Chris, you knocked this one out of the damn park. It is a constant war with me.

My husband and I live in a area and work in fields that are underrepresented by AA (he in Aerospace and I in Interior design) so are constantly in social situations where we are in the fishbowl. The company parties and conferences are always a landmine of “representing” and “keeping it real”.

I think that we do ourselves a disservice when we outright reject all things black because it just seems to reinforce the stereotype that black is wrong, however, it is important to show that we have diverse interests, lifestyles and tastes, and cannot be pigeonholed to “Good Times Black” or “Cosby Show Black”. It is freaking exhausting to always be on display and carrying the race on our shoulder.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Good point, Deesigner. Cultural pluralism- just as one can be or feel both “Culturally Black” and “Culturally Jewish”, “Cultural Blackness” consists of so many different things and experiences….

But sometimes, I just wanna do hoodrat stuff with my friends. No shame in that.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

lol@ Dustin geek…

30 05 2008
ishouldbeworking

Oh and since the band geeks are comming out I was a terrible clarinet player always last or next to last chair. I switched to percussion when all of the percussionists got kicked out of band–there were way too many girls on clarient so we had to pick up the slack in percussion. It’s not like anybody could here us anyway. Third clarinet parts are usually nothing but a bunch of low whole notes.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Deesigner, you make a good point about reinforcing the notion that black is wrong. Never thought about it that way. My (our) attitude should really be, “Yeah I’ve been around the world, I love fried chicken, I’m an Alanis Morissette fan, Trick Daddy makes me laugh, I’m multi-lingual (including BVE), I love the NBA (once referred to as The Criminal League in my office), I’m professionally successful, I love loud music in my car on a sunny day, and I hate overpriced name brand clothes with big logos…AND WHAT!!” Easier said than done though.

30 05 2008
ishouldbeworking

* I meant hear not here

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

ST – you’re an idiot. “hoodrat stuff with my friends.” I’da choked the $hit outta his lil a$$.

First chair clarinet – till I switched to the Flag Corp in my HS marching band.

AND WHAT??!!

30 05 2008
Dustin

@ Figure 4. That’s a bougie-ass Popeye’s.

30 05 2008
maya

Dear God, this is so true.

Why am I super paranoid when I go to the Dominican hair salon that I’m being talked about? And then, just to let them chicks know I don’t play no games, I start answering questions posed to me in English in Spanish. You will not talk about me and take my money in the same 10 minute span.

I am a loud person, and I hate myself for it in certain spaces.

Sadly, I was just dealing with someone who I think has fallen too deeply into this “representing” thing, so much so that I think he believed all the stereotypes. This fool really told me that “if you act a certain way I feel like people won’t see you as a ‘nigger.'” But like, was really serious about it, and in context really branded him as a sell-out in my mind. My friends and I have taken to calling him Thomas (Uncle or Clarance, take your pic) behind his back.

30 05 2008
Deesigner

I guess that it comes down to being appropriate. I love doing hoodrat stuff when I am in the hood, not so cute when at a cook-out in the ‘burbs or a professional seminar. My sister calls it performing, I call it common sense.
I don’t want to defend my love for Celine Dion at the family reunion nor my love for Tupac at the office.

30 05 2008
shabooty

omg the fatties that are in flag corp… wow….
talk about smelly snatch.
they need to take a summers eve flag and put it to half-staff and shove it down their twats.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Ewwww Shapooty!! I can’t believe you said that to me. I don’t know what school you went to, but my flag corp was not made up of fatties and my snatch smells just fine THANK YOU!!

30 05 2008
maya

@ ishouldbeworking:

sweet haysoos – you got them kinda white folk at your job, too? last week i was subjected to the most sexist and racist convo about King Magazine (which itself, i have no problems with) but this fool really asked me if “video hoes” was the correct slang terminology. it took everything in me not to assault him with my stapler.

30 05 2008
{kay}

oh my gosh. again, you’ve made me laugh out loud and appear semi-crazy at my office desk. thank you!

30 05 2008
Omar

Knatural – OMG… I just came back from Trinidad couple of months ago the KFC was off the hook, its way better than KFC here, the ketchup is even better there.

And whoever said they felt more comfortable in the Caribbean is damn right, if I could I would move there.

As a 6’4″ black man who hardly ever smiles so I always get the “angry black man” label. I also had the experience of going to play basketball with some guys from the engineering firm that I work at against some guys from another firm. Soooo… these mofos really accused my company of bringing a ringer!!! One guy actually asked me what I did for the company like I was really the janitor or some shit. This was almost my “keeping it real gone wrong” moment cause on the inside I was mad enough to strangle someone but I put that energy to beat the shyt out them like 5 or 6 games straight.

30 05 2008
shabooty

ugh you know…
the same fattie chicks that are WoW addicts and real-life role playing game nerds (like when you dress up and make swords out of foam/sponge and you go out in the woods and pretend you can shoot lightning bolts from your hands)… or maybe thats just a fat-WHITE-girl thing…nevermind.

$

30 05 2008
Omar

“I love the NBA (once referred to as The Criminal League in my office)”…

I’m real mad they called it the “Criminal League” especially when hockey players and Nascar car drivers get into more fights. Fucc it, I’m a tall black dude who loves basketball and who considers playing golf a waste of my money and my time on this earth that I won’t get back.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

So far, I’ve only read the headline and hell-friggin-yes I’ve had it with representing/keepin it real/etc.

Now, let me read…

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

I was addicted to KFC in South Africa. I felt so ashamed. I mean, how you gonna go all the way to South Africa and eat KFC for lunch AND dinner? It’s kinda like the crack did to Pookie…in New Jack. And kinda like this site. WHY WON’T THEY BLOCK IT??!!

30 05 2008
rahizzy

@Fruity Pebble
would you mind telling me the title of the book you mentioned. The subject matter, perception and it’s effects on behavior/choice etc is something I’ve recently become interested. thanks

Anyway, I’ve been lurking on the site for sometime now and I guess this is post stirred me up a little more than usual since I encounter it almost every moment of my life but especially in this last week. I go to a really old, pasty-white liberal arts college and this is the alumni weekend. I have to constantly greet old white men (who graduated in 1948 with their bitchy wives who weren’t even allowed to attend this school until 1969) and I find myself being extra polite and helpful so as to counterbalance any perception they might harbor that I somehow too different and therefore do not belong. But even during the normal school year, I am much more reserved than when I am at home, quieter and in general less demanding (unless the situation specifically calls for it or I’m around close friends), so as not to be perceived as some raving, angry black woman. I’ve gotten so “good” at that, that whenever I do reveal more “domineering” characteristics, out of the context, people are surprised (maybe a little scared?) and listen up.

30 05 2008
Elaine

Wow, this is so true.

I was queuing in the supermarket the other day, and a middle aged white guy in front of me at the till dropped a couple of coins on the floor. Now considering where I live up North in the UK, where as friendly as they are, some do have warped views about us (case in point – was queuing behind a white lady and her husband once at a store and they both overtly looked me up and down and clutched their shopping bags. Before you make judgements on my possible criminal appearance, they were eyeballing the woman behind the till too was was black. Seriously they looked at her like face was her butt and her butt was her face) , I decided to let him know. After all, he didn’t realise this and I could have let him get on, but the actual thought running through my head was, “…go on let him know that us brownies are okay”. He thanked me, gave me a great big warm smile and left.

You could argue that any good person would have alerted him of this and I would have done this anyway, but being black I guess I felt it was extra important.

ehem…Blacks 1

Whites 0

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Yeah Merri Lee – that’s what I thought when I saw the headline and Figure 1. But you’re way off.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Ahh, now that I’ve READ….

I saw the photo of Lil’ Jon and thought this was going to be about n!##az “keepin it real” (that’s what I get for trying to read at work)

As one of three black women at the office I tend to over “represent.” It’s business casual, but I tend to dress up more, I act like I’ve never heard Lil Wayne’s new song (that’s more wishful thinking than representing) and talk about the joys of the History Channel. Then I go home, watch basketball and eat chicken.

30 05 2008
Knatural

Thanks for the book title Fruity Pebble. I probably won’t get it since Black people don’t read anything other than Zane.
Yeah, I love the Caribbean for that ‘laid-back’, multicultural vibe, but I wouldn’t live there anytime soon because they drive on the left. The KFC chicken does indeed tastes different (seasoned), and the ketchup is sweeter!
I almost had a “when keeping it real goes wrong” moment at my last job, too. I worked at a lobbying firm where nepotism was rampant, and a Client actually asked me “how’d you get this job?” as if the company was filling a quota. Bitch.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

stuffblackpeoplehate (14:54:38) :

Unquestionably the best way to confuse people is to do what Admiral Furious and I do:

Drive around with your friend blasting a classical piece featuring either a harpsichord or piano (this is important), while yelling, screaming, and cursing about the merits of the oboe vs. the clarinet (each friend should pick a side) in the most hood voice you can muster and as loudly as humanly possible.

I am in tears! I hope that’s the next East Coast-West Coast fight. Glockenspiel b!#chez!!! WHAT??????

30 05 2008
Monie

I’m actually more concerned with what ‘average’ Black people think of me. I always try to impress them with my knowledge of hood vernacular. I always play down my affection for rock, especially classic rock. I act like I eat Black ethnic foods and love it.

I keep my mouth shut when they talk about how much they love the TV show The Game and Girlfriends (because I hate both those shows, especially The Game and I hate Kelsey Grammer for creating both those shows.) I act like I have actually listened to the Michael Baisden radio show and I’ve seen TV ONE.

As far as White people are concerned; I could care less what they think of me. If I spoke Latin and ate nothing but foie gras they would still think I was like the Black women they see on BET everyday. So why bother.

Am I the only one like this?

30 05 2008
Elaine

The whole chicken thing isn’t a stereotype exclusive to Blacks in the UK…everyone here eats shikken. Although…Black people do like chicken…

30 05 2008
Natalie

Any fellow flutists? Anyone?

::crickets::

Aww…

30 05 2008
Knatural

Natalie – I played flute. I giggle each time I see that scene from Anchorman where he played yazz flute.

30 05 2008
shabooty

if i was gonna propose to a sister, I would hide the ring in the white meat.
the grease would make the cubic zarconia look extra blingy….
$$$

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Natalie (17:35:58) :

Any fellow flutists? Anyone?

::crickets::

Aww…

That’s cuz the flute is for PUNKS! Piccolo! What?? What??

30 05 2008
Monie

I played the Recorder when I was a kid. Lol

30 05 2008
Natalie

Yay! And though that is a quality scene, the journalist in me holds a special place in my heart for that all-out news team brawl in the alley.

30 05 2008
Educated NSU Demon

First of…I hope I’m not the only one who chuckled at “Martin and Malcolm are watching you.” lol

But yea, it definitely sucks for black people, because I don’t think any other race is put under such a microscope to be judged…although it might be for the simple fact that black people have fought the hardest for equal rights compared to other races. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t represent subconsciously as well. I’ve had numerous music classes where I was one of the few black people (if not the only one)…and frankly, I’m one of the most talented black musicians at the school (this is me being arrogant, just stating a fact), so I always feel the need to always be at my best, since classical music isn’t exactly something black men are associated with.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

“Ugh…its so hot. Milk was a bad choice.”

30 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHA @ quality scene! I probably quote that movie on a weekly basis, if not daily. Stupid movie has ruined my life.
“They’ve done studies, you know; 60% of the time it works, every time.”

30 05 2008
Omar

Damn near everyone in the world eats chicken that stereotype makes no sense.

The watermelon thing makes me extra mad because it is one of the few stereotypical foods that black people like that is HEALTHY!!… but I’m not going to lie I will eat cut up watermelon around white people but not the big slices. I can see all the eyes turning toward me as I bite into it and the juice flies out all in slow motion; gives me the chills.

30 05 2008
Dustin

Monie, I agree. I used to spend more time trying to play up my “hood” status. Because I didn’t want to seem too bougie.

Then I realized that all of my friends and I are are too unique to fit any stereotype so why waste time trying to validate myself to anyone? This is what I love about SBP and/or EBP. They/we are complex dichotomies. My friends and I actually debate things like oboe vs. flute for real. On the flip side, we used to order fried chicken from Plucker’s (so good) before a 50 minute class and it would arrive right when class was over. Then we’d sit in the law school lounge (which was huge, open and visible), eating the hell outta some wings.

That’s why I love reading this blog and the comments. Everyone has really interesting, intelligent points. Then five minutes later you’re talking about “smelly snatch” and posting blow job tutorials.

30 05 2008
Natalie

Punks?! You can practically put a piccolo inside of a flute. Flutes win. Especially the bass flute which I did not play because it is about twice as long as my arm and perhaps as tall as I am :-/

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Harmonica!!!!! Throw yo’ hood up!!!

(I’ll stop)

30 05 2008
Vanita

Dustin- i was in in IB too, so I KNOW your a nerd…its ok, IB geeks gotta stick together!!

Although, it was kinda hard cuz I was one of the handful of blacks kids in the IB classes, so I had to ‘rep’ there, meanwhile the other black kids would make fun of me cuz I was smart!! I was ok though, I ran track and was all state for like 2 years so everyone was cool with me cuz I was doing good for the school…So although I had to ‘rep’ to the white kids, and prove myself to the black kids, SPORTS made my life better and put me through college LMAO 🙂

30 05 2008
Knatural

Harmonica is for felons.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

I want “Banjo Hero” for my PS3

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

I’d don’t wanna have to call Barbara Ann (what I call my mom behind her back) and tell her I’m moving back home offa some ole’ bull$h!t like reading this damn blog all day! I’VE WORKED TOO HARD DAMMIT!! TOO HARD!! Malcolm and Martin are disgusted with me right now.

~hang’s head in shame~

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Vanita – black people can run faster b/c they have an extra bone in their foot. That’s why they’re so good at sports.

Sadly, this is what one of my brother’s HS science teachers told the class back in the 80’s…right before my dad went up there in put an extra bone in his a$$!

30 05 2008
Dustin

Vanita, IB geeks were looked up to in my high school. It was so competitive. The ESL kids still went to Ivy League schools. Really. And you could place bets that EVERY year the salutatorian (or maybe the person ranked third) would attempt suicide.

We all took our one required semester of P.E. (or other electives) in the last semester of senior year because you could only get a 4.0 for your A instead of a 5.0 and you didn’t want to f*ck up your average. That’s when they started offering IB electives (utterly ridiculous).

30 05 2008
Sylph

*ahem* Violin, and that was only in the 6th grade.

You hit close to home on this one. I was the nerd girl in high school. I listen to Blink 182, Queen, A Tribe Called Quest, Nina Simone, Buju Banton, Frankie Knuckles, Willie Colon, Sade, and Muse among others. I am not ashamed to talk about it. I lost count at the amount of eyebrow raises in my choice in music when I used to buy cds. Apparently, I’m supposed to stay permanently in the R&B/Rap section.

When I was taking AP Calculus and Physics in high school, you could count all the black people in the class on one hand. I tried hard to be the excellent student and show my teachers that I cared about my schoolwork and that we all are capable.

I remember clearly in Econ where I was reading (outloud) one of the articles our teacher had brought into class. After I was done, he didn’t say anything. He stared at me for a bit. Since I was sitting right up front in the class (I wear glass damnit), I was getting paranoid like something was on my face. I ask him if everything is okay and he replies,”You read so well.”

WTF?

“You read well. You stop at every period and you pause at the commas.”

I didn’t know whether to be offended or proud. I did want to choke him. My Grams was the one who taught me how to read (and she was headmistress of her school in Jamaica where at the time corporal punishment ruled in her classroom) and it wasn’t done for play.

30 05 2008
Monie

“That’s why I love reading this blog and the comments. Everyone has really interesting, intelligent points. Then five minutes later you’re talking about “smelly snatch” and posting blow job tutorials.” – Dustin

Lmao!

30 05 2008
Knatural

Barbara Ann!??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I envision her picking you up from school dressed in a housecoat and rollers.
Sylph, and whoever mentioned loving classic rock – I love Queen, Aerosmyth, Rare Earth, Pink Floyd, and of course Jimi Hendrix. I remember a teacher’s aid ridiculed me in front of the class in junior high for liking “all that guitar”. Jerk.

30 05 2008
shabooty

the only reason i want to go to bodyworlds is to see teh blacks extra bone in their ankle.

30 05 2008
Shine

Dustin, if you live in the DC area, the KFC near Potomac Mills delivers. But it didn’t start until I was like 11. I got very excited about that and then very disappointed when I realized I couldn’t use that feature. Also I was very excited that now in NJ they opened up a Bojangles. My roommate got me some coupons from school and I almost kissed her. AND Bojangles delivers! Nothing I love more than having a sausage egg and cheese biscuit and a half gallon of sweet tea delivered to my door before noon. I’m a lazy shit that way. Unfortunately the Bojangles seems to be run by latinos who have never been down south to taste real chicken and biscuits, but they’re getting better. Maybe one day they will be on par.

30 05 2008
Dustin

I don’t know what Bojangles is, but it makes me want to dance.

30 05 2008
Shine

@prettypiscesgirl, i feel you on the “honors classes bullshit.” I grew up with those YT idiots and though they knew me for years they always thought I was the dumb shit in the class. I hated working in groups b.c. these bitches would fuck up and I would be the only one with the right answer and they would straight up act like I was invisible. And then when the teacher explained shit, they acted like they never heard the right answer before.

And all my english teachers loved me and I didn’t realize why until high school when my teacher was like “you write and speak so well.” Bite me bitch, I speak english and shock, I can write it too. I had a dumb english teacher in ninth grade, at the end of the year she let us pick our own books to read and do a report on, but she gave us recommendations. She walked up to me and recommended some Toni Morrison and to the 2 brothas in class she tried to pressure both of them into reading Black Boy or Native Son. I was thinking the whole time “bitch I don’t need to read toni morrison, these crackas need to read some toni morrison.” Man our 3 black asses were glaring at her and bitching for days over that shit.

30 05 2008
Vanita

Dustin – Oh You wasnt in IB in PG county…Oh and yes I remember the 5.0…used to get teased for that too…Oh well.

30 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Fruity Pebble and Deesigner,

I was reading an article about the history of Hipsterism and the guy being interviewed (he had just written a book on the topic) mentioned that femininity is best understood when it is being viewed or “looked at.” Femininity is highly visual and observable.

I pretty much agree with that. But then I asked myself, what is the best context in which to understand masculinity? Maybe masculinity is best understood when it is “felt” or dealt with, or after it has some sort of “impact” somehow? Physical power, domination, sheer size (males being taller and weighing more, on average), harness/machoness; these are all the things I’d guess most people would associate with masculinity.

Sorry for the tangent to yesterday’s post.

30 05 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

Oh Merri – a flautist after my own heart. First chair flute, high school orchestra. Our instructor used to pimp us out to snooty weddings and we even did the R. Kelly “I believe I can fly” video – for free.
At least i know I’m in good company. . .

30 05 2008
Natalie

@ Dustin

Bojangles is a chicken restaurant chain. I’ve only seen one in New Carrollton in PG county but a TON of them down south. One taste of their biscuits gives you hope that the world isn’t totally going to shit. The chicken is good as well but I personally prefer Popeyes.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Joking aside – I did play trombone, sax and violin.

Violin b!t#h! I Throw dem bows!

30 05 2008
Dustin

If reading this blog and avoiding work were my job, I’d be Employee of the Month.

30 05 2008
Shine

How bout this for an ignant dichotomy. The black people in my grad class used to sit in the front rows just to show up white people. then my girl or i would always walk in late AND with a basket of hot wings to share among the row while we were taking notes. haha! good times.

30 05 2008
shabooty

merri lee,

bitch, i rock [french] vandoren reeds.

now what?!?!

$

30 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

@Natalie,

There’s also Bojangles on 301 in Upper Marlboro, down the road from Fredrick Douglass High School.

30 05 2008
Natalie

@ Scipio Africanus

My older biscuit-loving brother will be most pleased with this information. Thank you.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee


shabooty (18:43:07) :

merri lee,

bitch, i rock [french] vandoren reeds.

now what?!?!

$

Please, I wouldn’t suck your reed. What now???!!

30 05 2008
Muse

I’m so use to being the only Black person in my work and academic environment that I decided to just fuck trying to prove White, Asians, and “Other” folks wrong and act like myself. I’m the only black financial analyst on team and one of two female. I work with a bunch of WASPy white dudes who probably fantasize about role-playing “Plantation” with me. A long time ago I concluded that no matter how you act, people are going to stereotype you anyway. I figure that I rather prove my value through my work ethic and results I produce. I’m not going to smile when I don’t feel like it. My coworkers know not to say shit to me for the first 1 hrs while I’m at work. I get a kick out of the fact that some of the men I work with are slightly intimidated by me.

30 05 2008
Dustin

Hot wings: $7.99

Extra napkins: 35 cents.

Grad School: $22,000/year.

Debating existentialism in the front row with hot sauce and bleu cheese on your face in order to “keep it real:” PRICELESS!

30 05 2008
Ljones

horrible that this subject ahs so much merit- right? I am guilty of it too and have only very recently taken to NOT really worrying about what others may think of “the blacks” but it is so deeply ingrained it is a conscious effort.
@may- why not call your friend an uncle tom to his face- that would make for a great convo on this site. just jokes, he REALLY thinks it makes a difference and you calling him out on it won’t change that.
Sidebar- i am hoping to get my son into swimming or lacrosse to open up his scholarship chances as a fall back to an academic scholarship – how is that for non stereotype sport for blacks???

30 05 2008
Shine

yea, dem biscuits are the truth. Chicken could be better, but nothing like a bojangles biscuit. ANd those sweet biscuits covered in frosting. mmm mmm good. damn, I may order me some biscuits and sweet tea now fo’ delivery. (I’m secretly a country girl) I miss sweet tea, damn north. You know it took me damn near a year to remember not to order sweet tea up here. ….giving me some fucking raspberry nestea… grumblegrumble bastards grumble.

30 05 2008
Quiet Storm

shabooty: “I played the SAX –the say they set up the seating order was the best player on one end and the suckiest at the end.

in 9th grade being in the LAST chair, and having azns in the row behind me being assholes, I knew I had to retire….”

I played the tenor sax in elementary school and the alto sax in middle and high school. In the 9th grade, I knew it was time to retire when they wanted me to be a part of the gay-ass marching band we had…. *sighs and rolls eyes*
I also hated that people assumed I knew who to play jazz and Kenny G songs. Bastards.

30 05 2008
Muse

Dustin speaking of grad school, I have a funny story when I was taking the GMATs. While my test station was being set up some goofy White guy had the nerve to say that he doesn’t see “my kind” taking the test very often. Needless to say I was a little shocked since folks tend to be PC in LA. He saw the expression on my face and clarified that he meant “women.” My soul told me he meant Negros. Hehehe. Also this asshole had the felt the need to mention that the last guy who took the GMAT ran out of the test center crying. Great way to boost my confidence right? Anyway I took my test, killed it with a 730 and this asshole had the nerve say “I’m surprised you did so well.” WTF right?

30 05 2008
Ljones

@Dustin- there is a Bojangles in Newark, nj and since everyone is biggin up the biscuits, I will try one tomorrow before I go see KIMBO SLICE kick ASS at the purdential center in Newark!!

30 05 2008
Muse

Shine I gained 5 lbs reading your message about biscuits and sweat tea. I hate you bish!

30 05 2008
Dustin

Muse, he lost the right to speak to you or anyone else. You should’ve ripped his vocal chords out through his anus.

30 05 2008
Shine

Ug my nephews do lacrosse, I love them both but the whole family does look at them odd when they play. They’re really atheletic and you chose lacrosse as a sport? I don’t want to watch kids play that. Soccer, yea, even minime basketball. Swimming is great. But 7 year olds playing baseball, field hockey and lacross, booo!

30 05 2008
shabooty

marching-band=march your coolness right into the oven.

=)

in middle school though, our Hispanic music teacher was the bomb…
he had us watching the sound of music and west side story.

the first week of class when they were doing seat assignments based on skill level, I was first….

by the end of the month I was in the last seat LOL….I guess the rest were advancing by leaps and bounds.
sigh.

30 05 2008
Dustin

I played baseball when I was 7. For one season. My picture is the gayest thing you ever saw. I was holding the bat like a parasol (I loved Mary Poppins).

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

@ Figure 4. That’s a bougie-ass Popeye’s-Dustin sMH

and soo what else i miss gotta read all your comments…

30 05 2008
Shine

Ljones, thats the one I”m talking about. Get the sweet tea. Drink it in front of Muse. (heeheehee) The chicken is doing better but make sure your biscuits are hot. They aren’t southern quality yet but they better than most up here.

Dustin… you know how we do!

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

what’s SMH?

30 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

@ Scipio: “I was reading an article about the history of Hipsterism…”
*shudder*
Hipsters give me hives.

I suggest you check out the book too; dude isn’t telling the average Black person anything they don’t already know about misrepresentation and its motivations, he just puts it in terms of class. But I think his arguments can just as easily be used in a discussion about race. That said, he also makes a pretty dense statement that you can interpret any way you see fit: “Men act, women appear.” Take that for what it’s worth. I might extend that to our situation because so many people only consider Black people as they “appear” instead of just as an equal person, and we often alter our behavior based on how we think we might/should appear. Not all the time, but often enough.

I hate using this terminology, but I guess we were conditioned to think this way. Constantly having to watch what you do and say to avoid being hassled, humiliated, bullwhipped, raped or hanged kinda makes for a defensive psyche. Just sayin’….

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Muse – you speak so well! I’d never notice you were black. :-)~

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Yonnie 3k – Shake my head

30 05 2008
Quiet Storm

Yonnie3k: smh = shake my head.

30 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

Also, I find the best defense is sometimes a good offense. Many a face has been picked up off the floor when I deadpan the following response to the you’re-so-articulate “compliment”
“Really!? Tell me more because, despite what you’ve heard, Black folks loooove to be condescended to via backhanded compliments. Continue, please!” Turns the tables and hasn’t failed me yet!

30 05 2008
Knatural

Lacrosse was invented by Injuns, so it’s ok.

30 05 2008
shabooty

SMH=

so much hate
shaving my hairpie
suck my hog
skanky maryland hoe

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

I’m sick of representing! I’m going shopping, because I really need some of this

Eff it – promotion, here I come!

30 05 2008
Shine

Yea, I say black people live with mild case of justified paranoia in the US. Once again a reason why I love going to the caribbean. To be free of that foolywang. And also the same reason why I sometimes have to fight caribbeans/africans for buying into YTs BS on black people seeing racism everywhere.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

SMH = I’ve been trying to figure that out for the longest thinking I’d figure it out off the context clues. I came up with Simple Minded Heiffer (pronounced heffa)

30 05 2008
Knatural

and LMAO = lick me all over, right?

30 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

“Yay! And though that is a quality scene, the journalist in me holds a special place in my heart for that all-out news team brawl in the alley.”

Anchorman…love.that.movie…especially the news team brawl scene! I fall out everytime!

30 05 2008
Muse

Merri Lee I apparently sound white because I have the ability to articulate my thoughts without the coon talk. One time client came in looking for me. The office secretary guided them to my office and when I introduce myself, all the color left his face.

Client: “You don’t look like how you sound.”
Me : —> WTF Face
Client: –> No no I didn’t mean that, I’m liberal.
Me: –> Another WTF face.
Client: “Um you know what I mean, you don’t sound very ethnic
Me: —> Dies.

I live in LA, PC capital of the world.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Ljones- I work in Newark and I can’t go back to that Bojangles, because I let Malik who works in there pay for my stuff cause he offered, in exchange for my number. I am a bad person….damn, I have to go down Broad Street tonight and some sweet tea WOULD be good….maybe I can tell him that me and my ‘babyfava’ got back ‘togeva’.

WTF is a Kimbo Slice? I heard someone mention that in a song recently.

I can’t believe how many of y’all were band geeks! I was cool in high school. I was the militant one with the low cut tops and boots everyday, and I was a B-girl and I drank and made out a lot and changed my hair color all the time. Nothing has changed, simply polished out a bit.

30 05 2008
Muse

apparently I can’t type for shit though. Let me start over. A client came to my office, he was surprised because I was a Negro but over the phone I sound “white”

But what kills me is that my name is the Korean Car which is pretty ethnic…

I’m going to need folks to use their critical thinking skills and/or don’t make assumptions about people. Maybe he thought that I was Korean…?

I know two Persians and One Korean guy with my govt. name.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

ok i finished reading all your comments i have come to the conclusion you all are getting fired by the end of the day..SLACKERSSSSSS

“Ya’ll some crazzyy Niggarsss”- Dave Chappelle

indeed indeed…

and what is this i hear of smelly snatch….umm eww..only Shababy would say some shit like that…

Still got the original nintendo and Mario!! REP YO HOOOODDDD
NIGGGGAAAZZ!!!!

🙂

oh btw i hate lil jon’s screaming fucking ass..he needs to get him a damn hearing aid and call it a day ol dirty bastard…

that is all

30 05 2008
shabooty

WIFE=
Washing
Ironing
Fucking
Etc.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Muse- WHY?!!!! DIES @ “I’m liberal”. White people are a mess. My friend and I were at an event at Chelsea Market this fall and this White man came up to us like “Hi, I’m so-and-so. I’m a blah-blah-blah. And I support Barack Obama! Aren’t you guys excited about him?” WTF? Like, just because we were Black, we had to be Obama supporters. GTFOH.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

LOL. Sista T thought she was cool in HS. ROFLMFAO b/c Sista T thinks she’s cool now.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Dustin-I played baseball when I was 7. For one season. My picture is the gayest thing you ever saw. I was holding the bat like a parasol (I loved Mary Poppins

And a spoon full of sugar makes the medicien go down the medicien go down..i love that movie…

30 05 2008
Muse

ST I was kind of preppy in highschool. Lets just say I was sporting the polo shirts in every color prior to Kanye blowing up. My favorite outfit in highschool was the pink fitted polo with the catholic school girl skirt. I also went through a phase in Jr. High when Clueless came out and I was incorporting those trampy fashions into my atire. Then I went through a tomboy phase where I liked to cut up my jeans and wear stupid logo shirts that had witty statements because I thougth I was oh so cool.

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

This is so true! Although I’ve been in situations where I was asked where I’m from, not because of my “hood accent,” but because of my “white girl” accent. I mean damn, can I use proper English without being labeled? I grew up around the southen PG county area around the PG/DC border, and then in DC, and I was always asked “Are you from Virginia?,” as if black kids in my school and neighborhood had never heard anyone speak proper English before.

Growing up, I was fortunate, though to go to a predominantly black high school, where, in my AP classes, all the kids were black (all the white people I can remember (and there was like 2 or 3, plus one Filipino, one or two Latinos, and one Middle Eastern girl) took regular classes). So I was never made fun of for being a “nerd” (which I still consider myself to be to this day (WHATEVER, don’t judge me! LOL). I was never made fun of for actually taking, enjoying, and excelling in AP Chem, Physics, and Calculus.

About the representing thing… I did recently have a white friend of mine ask me “Is Little Richard gay or something?” YES, she did ask me this, and I proceeded to laugh my ass off. I though she was joking, but she was serious. Just as seriously and calmly as she posited her question, I posited my own: “Why would you expect me to know that?” When she didn’t answer, that was all the answer I needed, and I continued to laugh my ass off.

Dont get me wrong, my friends and I engage in random acts of coontastic tomfoolery (giggle), and speak BVE, but depending upon who the friend is, I get the “wtf” side eye when I say “No, I haven’t read the new Zane,” or mention Harry Potter, LOTR, or Star Wars. I give them the WTF when they mention BS like Solja Boy, Beyonweave, TCB or any other Go-Go band (grr @ at the hell that is go-go).

Linkin Park and Nickelback for life!! lol

30 05 2008
Muse

ST that’s hilarious. I actually wasn’t on the Obama train until a little later. Now I volunteer at his campaign headquarters in LA. I didn’t want people to assume that I was supporting him just because he was black.

Don’t throw stones at me but I’m a recovering Conservative.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee


Knatural (19:14:00) :

and LMAO = lick me all over, right?

I’m using that!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

oh yea almost forgot Popeyes can kiss my black ass…i havent eaten thats shit since i was 17..it gave me food poisoning for 4 days str8 making me vomit from all holes! I’ll stick to KFC anf El Pollo Rrrrrricccoooooo! yum..

30 05 2008
shabooty

black chicks with “white girl” accents give the bombest dome.

*gaheggheggehegttegg*

30 05 2008
carl

I dont care what the white man thinks I still love ‘Lacs.

30 05 2008
Muse

OMG Popeyes is soooooooooooo good but I refuse to eat it more than once a month… Oh why did we have a potluck at my job where one of my pompous asshole coworkers asked me if I was going to bring in the Fried Chicken. Fucking asshole.

I ended up brining Fried Chicken because it was the only thing left. I’m such a coon. I hate myself.

30 05 2008
Muse

Fuck you Shabooty. LOL

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Muse-ST I was kind of preppy in highschool. Lets just say I was sporting the polo shirts in every color prior to Kanye blowing up. My favorite outfit in highschool was the pink fitted polo with the catholic school girl skirt. I also went through a phase in Jr. High when Clueless came out and I was incorporting those trampy fashions into my atire. Then I went through a tomboy phase where I liked to cut up my jeans and wear stupid logo shirts that had witty statements because I thougth I was oh so cool.

STOPPPP ITTT me too.. hahah

thats was men allll the way my freshman yr in HS..then it went to wearing Chucks with every fucking thing…. I had all colors from black-green…i even had the Dickies ones ahahha and those nike sacks as a backpack…so bad…

the style i hate the most is that douchebag look with the ball cap, the stud earings in both fucking ears, the pink polo with the popped collar…and a wirst band FUCK.

30 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA@Shabooty. Which desert country are you from anyway?
*Homer drools* over Popeyes. Biscuits. Cajun Rice. Mmmmmmmmm.
I have a strange feeling that Sister Toldja used to bully nerds/geeks in high school?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Shababay..sweetheart..control your tourettes ahahha silly fucker

30 05 2008
Muse

My dad said guys with both ears pierced were fags LOL.

I lived and went to school in the Valley which is a suburb in LA. Most of these kids were wasp, jews, and persians..Around 97/98 the hot thing these fools were sporting was urban gear and wearing gucci glasses. I was in fashion hell. I dated this Persian guy who use to spit Tupac lines to me over the phone and told me I sold out because I wasn’t a fan.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Shabooty-

Hugs
Understanding
Smiles
Babies
And
Neverending
Dick

🙂

30 05 2008
Shine

Muse, I’m trying hard not to throw stones since you are recovering. Can ST or Ljones tell me where exactly this bojangles is on broad street. One of the reasons I order is because I don’t know exactly where it is. I saw it in November once randomly but i can’t seem to find my way back. I don’t constantly want to be ordering $10 worth of biscuits just for myself because i don’t know where it is.

30 05 2008
shabooty

sigh, I just got this spam:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dearest Lovely

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I am here for a serious encounter that will result fruitful blesses, call it long term, its okay by me. I am brunette, very cute, outgoing girl, too romantic and with a great smile. You wont regret it if you can pat a little of your time with me! I won’t tell you here what I do in private, come and see it by yourself. I have some surprises for you.
Awaiting your response.
Yours love,
Miss Asmina
—~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

she should know to back the fuck up before she gets smacked the fuck up!
🙂

30 05 2008
Knatural

Muse – you dated a Persian? Did yall used to cruise around on his flying carpet, like that scene in Disney’s Aladdin?

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

There’s a Bojangles in front of Iverson Mall, at the intersection of Iverson Street and Branch Ave. Bojangles is okay, but I prefer Popeyes… yeah buddy.

@ Mrs. Epps… Everytime I see somebody w/ a popped collar, I feel like finding the nearest brick and smashing them over the head with it. That shit looks ridiculous! GAH! Only douchebags do that mess!

LMAO @ shabooty. Shut up!

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Knat- No, I wasn’t a bully. I was a BITCH. Big difference. I had popular friends and geek friends. The only people who may have saw me as a bully, barely, were the White kids I was constantly fussing at because of their racist language. I’d be like “You fucking crackers get on my nerves calling everything ‘ghetto’! Fucking White devils’!” I was also a “spoken word poet”, but I like to forget that ever happened.

30 05 2008
Johnny O

Chris, great post again. You’re turing in to the Kobe Bryant of blogs man. Dead on accurate and always consistent. Props. I haven’t checked in in a while so I had some catching up to do. I must say, this one made me think a lot. You know what, black people may do this a lot, but I would venture a guess that us whiteys do it every bit as much. In my job, (RV sales) I do this multiple times daily. Say a Mexican walks in, I will ask him how Cinco de Mayo was, if he’s involved in the local Hispanic cultural center etc. If a black guy walks in, I will always ask about sports, where he’s from (most aren’t originally born in Idaho), what kind of Big SUV he drives 🙂 !!! If an Asian walks in, I’ll ask him what he does for work, what his degree is in, and where in Asia his heritage is from. If he’s a camo wearing redneck of any race, I’ll ask him where he hunts, how he cooks his possum etc….The one thing thing in common with all of these answers is that I DON’T GIVE A SHIT. Funny how that is. I think it’s just human nature on any level. You try to talk and act the same as those you are around, be it on a racial, economic, age, geographic, educational etc…. level. I guess we’re all human chameleons to some degree, and I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. I think that’s a big problem with the world today. If those little asswipes on the bus you always talk about did a little more blending in, maybe your daily commute would be a lot smoother. We’re about the same age and could you imagine saying something like that to a lady when you were 12? If my dad found out my ass would still be sore. Anyway man. Great post. Made me think.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Shabooty – i sent that 😀

30 05 2008
Muse

LMAO. FUCK you Knat!

He did drive a BMW at 16, listened to rap, and whined because his parents wanted him to be a doctor.

His parents liked me a lot though. My parents thought he was obnxious.

We ended up being friends and I hooked him up with my girlfriend because she would give him some.

From that point on I started whoring out my girlfriends to the guys I didn’t want.

30 05 2008
Shine

Damn Muse, you have to be slapping fools all day every day don’t you. I was upset b.c. there’s a megabitch at my school that deserves to get fucked up (and this twerpy little asshole) and I decided not to reinforce the angry black girl rep and slap the shit out of her. Only to find out some of these crackas went and asked a chic i knew (who had the same hair as me) what was up with me on the first day b.c. I was wearing my ‘fro out. She had her hair pressed out that day and they thought she was the safe negress that could serve as a niggalator for them to see if I was dangerous. I hate people in this school.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

“sporting urban gear and wearing gucci glasses”. Thas not was up…at my school it was all about saggy ass pants with rubber bands at the bottoms scrunching the end of the pants…but yea and rocking the hottest Jordans thats just came out.. I remem when my friends mom took us to the mall so she could get her the new “13’s” they were baby blue and white.. and her mom asked me if i wanted a pair i was like FUCK YEAAA the cost 150 bucks i wa slike THANKSS!!!!..i wore them maybe 3 times hahah and then gave them to my little cousin who was in to all that ish..

30 05 2008
shabooty

@shine.
btw isn’t calling a black person a shine, not nice?

30 05 2008
Shine

Johnny O I don’t think you quite got this post. Its not about assimilating into the white world, its about deconstructing racial stereotypes about black people. Chris isn’t blasting classical music to ‘fit in’ he’s fucking doing it to show he has range and doesn’t fit into the SUV driving, sports focused stereotype of angry black man. And I think you’re one of the people I would want to slap on a daily basis. Imagine if I was salvadorian and walked up into Idaho and Johnny O asked me if I enjoyed cinco de mayo. Do you work with muse?

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

My sis just sent me this! Representing the .000000000000000001% of their clientèle indeed.

30 05 2008
Shine

a shine? what is a shine? am I going to have to change my name b.c. of your guttermind shabooty? I need to change it anyway, I think my family found out my S/N and sneak on this site so I can’t be putting my bidness out anymore

30 05 2008
shabooty

no numbnuts, shine=A derogitory word for an African American

$
lafffffffff

30 05 2008
Knatural

Now I have “A Whole New World” stuck in my head and picturing Muse’s hair blowing in the wind while holding hands with Shabooty, riding on his rug. Shabooty’s Persian, right.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA@ that REI add! I keep telling my colored friends that REI is coming to DC, and they don’t know what it is.

30 05 2008
Muse

The people at my school weren’t that bad..nevermind I take that back. There was a huge division between Black kids at my school (go figure). There were the Black kids who were had to take the bus from LA. They hung out in the cafeteria. Then there were the Black kids who lived in the valley who ate on the grass. It was really sad becaue most of the Valley Black kids didn’t want to associate with the Black kids who took the bus. I was actually cool with everyone. I was in student council so I kick it with everyone but I had my core group which consisted of another Black girl from the valley, two Jews, one persian chick and an Asian. Then there were the preppy white kids who usally kicked it with the valley black kids trying to be down. WE had out goths who played Dungeons and Dragons all damn day. Then there were the jocks who hung out on the steps, the cool Asians who usually talked shit about the FOB Asians who pretty much hung out in the math room. Basically my school was like Mean Girls X1000. Oh the Latinos who came on the bus kicked it with the Black kids who ate in the cafeteria. The Persians use to fight with the Blacks in the cafeteria but were cool with teh Blacks in the valley…and then we had the Latinos who couldn’t speak Spanish who hated the Latinos who took the bus from LA……

Ha…memories.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Brown Sugar- I been there. If Iverson Mall aint the most hood shit EVER! Makes PG plaza look like Pentagon City!

Shine- I don’t know the exact street, but it’s by the Almagamated Bank and the Rite-Aid. Don’t tell Malik you saw me! Do you live in Brick City?

30 05 2008
B4Prez

I don’t know about other people on here, but I grew up around the way…my mother just wasn’t the ‘typical’ (I use thi sterm litely), around the way mother. For me, it wasn’t the teachers and the white kids surprised that I could speak properly, it was my bad ass black friends who were always tryin to make me do hoodrat stuff who got on me. Imagine a group of bad ass little black boys standing in a group pointing and laughing at me because I had just won the school spelling bee….SMH

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Merri Lee (19:51:40) :

My sis just sent me this! Representing the .000000000000000001% of their clientèle indeed.

ROTLFMAOOOOOOOOOO! I CANT BREATHE!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Muse – you dated a Persian? Did yall used to cruise around on his flying carpet, like that scene in Disney’s Aladdin?
-Knat

Why girl WHYYYyyyy hahahha

speaking of Aladdin did you know that shit has subliminal messages in it…you know the part were Aladdin and Jasmine are on the balcony? well if you turn the volume to the max ont hat part you will hear Aladdin whisper “take you clothes off” I kid you fucking not its true.. we did this in my Psych class and i was surprised as shit.. and then i went home and did the same thing anf i heard it again..if you have the vhs still try it ya’ll hear it too!!!!!!

30 05 2008
Muse

knatural I’m going on facebook to get your address then I’m and pay a scary Perisan to stalk you.

30 05 2008
shabooty

sandnigga to you, misses.

30 05 2008
Muse

Dated means we just kicked it and held hands in high school. OH and I got the benefits of getting a ride since I hated my bootleg care. My parents were old school so I had to buy my own care which was a 1990 plymouth sundance LOL I purchased a police auction. Geez. I never had Persian penis inside of me people so it doesn’t count lol.

30 05 2008
Muse

Change my mind, I’m going to send Shabooty to your house with viagra pills.

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Dammit! The other ads I posted earlier were kicked out by WordPress. They probably thought I was spamming, but I’m trying to help the ladies advance their careers.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Knat stop drinking that bottle at work girl hahaha

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

^^^^^Redo with correct trackback

30 05 2008
Shine

ST yea, i live here. Sick of these damn bricks too. I meant to ask you what school you work at. I volunteer over at Camden with a bunch of little billy badasses. used to be at 15th st.

Damn shabooty, how many racist fucking names for black people do you know? My list just isn’t that big. I got my name from a character in my favorite book as a tween (who am i fooling, its still my favorite book, right up there next to Catch-22). Who was not black.

30 05 2008
Johnny O

Shine, Why would I ask a Salvadorian if he enjoyed Cinco De Mayo? Anyway, regarding Chris, I think he’s a well rounded dude, but we’re all a little more comfortable in our own element don’t you think? Are you telliing me that you talk the same and act the same with everyone you come in contact with? I doubt it. If you can shift and flow, I think it shows that you are a well rounded person, not necessarily a “poser”. I think we should all be proud of what we respresent whatever it may be.

30 05 2008
Shine

Do you have to pay shabooty to stalk people? Can you? 🙂

30 05 2008
Esquire

@ Sister:
Hugs
Understanding
Smiles
Babies
And
Neverending
Dick

What a nice description of a husband. I likes.

30 05 2008
Quiet Storm

While I was in college in the south, I hated that you felt you had to do some for real representing. Not just on the behalf of your race, but also trying to break stereotypes perceived of where you are from. I hated when, people find out I’m from NY, I am usually asked (from blacks and whites alike):

-“Oh, are you from the Marcy Projects?”
-“So where are you from?” Me: Queens. “Oh, so you know LL Cool J and Nas?” Me: WTF?! are you serious?
-Do you know: Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Biggie, [Insert any other rapper you know of that represents NY in their songs] ?
-Have you ever lived in a house before?
Me: Yes, a$$hole. If fact I never lived in an apartment before until I came to college. (Then I get the I-dont-really-believe-you look.) Bastards.
-“Oh, so you are probably not used to seeing so many trees. I heard you all dont have trees in Brooklyn and other parts of NY.” Me: F^&% you and your mother.
-“Do you own a gun?”
-“Oh, so you think you hard?!”
-“You probably know [they name someone they know/just met that is from NY] ?”
-“Why you New Yorkers are so mean. We actually have some manners here.” Me: F^&* you ma’am. See? I think I said that with some manners.
-“Ooooo, do you know how to do the Harlem Shake?”
– “You smile a lot for someone that is from NY.”
-“Your name doesnt sound like someone that is from NY”
– “Oh, your parents LIVE together?”
-“Did you live anywhere near the parts that were shown in Coming to America? That my favorite movie!”
-“Where you an extra in Belly?”
– When some find out my familyparents are Jamaican: “You probably a weed-head. Do you know some people down here I can get a nick from?”

**mumbling backwards-a$$-ignorant-a$$-bumpkins…**

30 05 2008
Knatural

Persian penis is scimitar shaped. Don’t send Shabooty over here, please. Unless you bring some kababs or dates or other desert people food.
I love old-school parenting, make you earn stuff the hard way.
Iverson Mall is beyond hood. That, and Capital Plaza should be demolished.

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Thank. You. Shine. I was like, “Johnny O missed the point completely.” But I wasn’t gonna say nothing b/c I didn’t want to seem like I was jumping on the only yt guy in the room. But since you led the way:

Johnny O, the difference b/w what Chris described and what you described is this: Chris, along with the vast majority of the minorities making comments, are saying that we go out of our way to REFUTE and DISPROVE stereotypes – even when they may be true (I think we’ve all agreed that chicken is the bomb). We hate when someone makes assumptions about who we are, what we do, or what we like based on what we look like. What you described is actually the opposite of what the post was discussing. You go out of your way to PERPETUATE these stereotypes, whether or not they are true. i.e. the black guy that your asking about sports might be an ecologist which is why he doesn’t drive a big SUV. The asian person might be a high school drop out turned self employed mechanic. But you are making assumtions about who they are, what they do, and what they like based on what they look like.

Do you see the difference?

30 05 2008
shabooty

shamshir shaped, you kunt.
🙂

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Desert People food bwhahahha… liek thats shit they were eating in Indian Jones 2..goat eyes and chilled monkey brains…pass

30 05 2008
Muse

Knat Natural my friends thought I was balling growing up but little did they know that my parents were CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. My dad’s use to throw it in my face that it was his money and if I wanted anything else besides food, basic clothing, and shelter, I better get a job. I respect his mindset though because I grew up with a good work ethic. When I wanted a car, I saved my money from working as a lifeguard and purchase the car at a police auction. My parents had a very old school approach to raising kids.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

What I hate the most is when people ask if my father was white because I talk so proper…no you fucking dickwad my father was black my mother is puerto rican and even though i talk proper i could still shank your fucking ass while reciting words from Shakespare you ass clown..:-)

30 05 2008
Muse

Shabooty, have you had relations with an obese woman before?

30 05 2008
shabooty

ooooo Mrs. Epps
i didnt know –cause PR chicks are known for, rimjobs….they wild like that.

thats wassup.
$

30 05 2008
Johnny O

Yonnie, so if I understand you right, then it would be like if I had mad hops and was good at basketball, I would be disproving the stereotype? Or if I hated chicken, but was in the South with a bunch of black people and acted like I like it? Am I following you correctly?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Muse you should get your parents and I get my parents together..because they were the exact same way.. shoot when I turned 17 I was paying rent..hommie dont play that…nothing is for free in this world..now when i have kids i may not go all hardcore liek my parents did..but i will have the same values and ideas as to raising children..cuz these kids today are a hot mess and need some good can of whoop ass and firm rules int he household..

30 05 2008
Shine

Sorry Johnny, didn’t see you mention Mexican, thought you said latino. But the other stuff. Man why are you asking a black man what kind of big SUV he drives? Why are you asking the Asian guy what degree he has? In fact why don’t you ask the black guy what degree he has and if the Asian guy drives an SUV? Because its the stereotype that black men/people love big ole’ SUVs and Asians all go to college and major in math or computer science.

I’m proud of what I represent but I also make sure what I represent is me. Not what anyone thinks I should be like. I like Ludacris but I also like Linkin Park and my 2 most recently downloaded songs are Paralyzer by Fingersmith and Some People Change by Montgomery Gentry(I haven’t dL in a while). If I walked into your RV dealership rocking my afro, t-shirt and skirt would you ask me about montgomery Gentry? Thats the point, I am well rounded but am veiwed 2 dimensional and i know it so sometimes I do stuff to ostentatiously show my different aspects. I wont walk up to you in Idaho and assume you know who Montgomery Gentry is and start a conversation on that b.c. I assume you like country music. And I may ask you if you know the name of Jigga’s new song b.c. I want to know the name.

What you said reminded me of that story the guy told about walking into the Lexus dealership and the salesperson said told him they had a new caddilac in their used lot. Even when a black man walks into a lexus dealership they damn salesperson went to the stereotype that black people like caddys and offered that. Was that story posted on this site or another one I read? Not sure. Either way, its daily BS.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Shine-(Which, I never thought about the bad connotation of the word and it will always seem dirty, thanks Sandnigga) I work at Nort.h St.ar Ac.ade.my, the only good school in Newark.

30 05 2008
B4Prez

@ST — Be careful. I think I got shot the last time I drove through Newark! lol

30 05 2008
Muse

Mrs. Epps my parents did good (I think at least LOL). I feel pretty balance. I grew up blessed but not spoiled or with entitlement issues.

30 05 2008
Shine

No Johnny O, the point is if you loved Kale and was in the South around a bunch of black people at a cookout and said you loved Kale. The assumption is white poeple don’t particularly like greens but you do and you are showing it black people to disprove this stereotype about white people.

30 05 2008
Knatural

Sandnigga? The first time I heard that term was in “The Siege”, with Denzel Washington and that dude from Monk, in the scene where the US declared Martial Law and started rounding up Muslim/Arab/Persian men. Monk threw down his badge, pissed, as said he was no longer the FBI’s ‘sandnigga’. Sad thing is, that scene could happen, especially if Insane McCain were elected. That’s a messed up slur.

30 05 2008
shabooty

ive been hogging before, but i aint proud of it. and am haunted.
=)

30 05 2008
Shine

I dont know why I capitalized kale. Like it was special.
Hmm P.S. all the way for me. Those hooligans need some mentoring. however i need a summer job. Does northstar have a summer program i can get at?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Shababy…once again..do i have to lock you in the basement..hahah and yea puerto rican girls are known for a lot of things..like the great aunt i never see who killed her husband with a shot gun 75 yrs ago and stashed the body..which still has been found hahah 🙂

But we are most known for our hips, PR day parade in NY…oh and holding our liquor…you will ahve to find you a PR girl and find out about our freakiness 😉

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Johnny, it would be like if you had “mad hops,” but at the court, you were last to be picked for teams b/c all the black people assumed that b/c you’re white, you can’t play. Then the game started and you dunked on ’em.

30 05 2008
BLKBrotha

Yo Chris is a sell out. That cat does what he do cuz he is wack. he dont like sistas and prefers to be wit some lame ass mayo lovin hoes.now this nigga is pretending to like blk shit. Chris fess up nigga, u a corny small dick white boy!

30 05 2008
Johnny O

Yonnie, that’s happened. Well, except the dunk part. I got range out to about 30 feet though so if we’re counting them as 2 pointers behind the 3 point line. I bring a lot to the table. 🙂

30 05 2008
Shine

ahh much better explanation Yonnie. Damn though Johnny? are you saying if I went around blasting Fingersmith then white people would assume I’m faking liking something to fit in?

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

I agree Muse…i think my parents did a damn good job…even though ofcousre i thought they were some assholes hahaha but now thats im grown I see why they did the things they did…and not enough parents today do it..so I’m blessed..

30 05 2008
Shine

and yes I have delegated you to representative of your race today. in keeping with the post. You may now speak for all white people

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

BLk Brotha-Yo Chris is a sell out. That cat does what he do cuz he is wack. he dont like sistas and prefers to be wit some lame ass mayo lovin hoes.now this nigga is pretending to like blk shit. Chris fess up nigga, u a corny small dick white boy!

WHOOOOAA BROOOO(in a white male suffer dude voice) ahahah damn…hate much?

Security may direct you to click on Why you shouldnt read this blog.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

hahaha Knat yes..they are freaky.. anddd LMAOOOOOO@ Peeter Reekan..my ass is slow today and had to read read what that said hahha i wa sliek who the fuck is Peter Reekan? haha

30 05 2008
Johnny O

Shine, great points all of them. I like healthy intelligent discussion. BTW I drive a Caddy too lol. Anyway, being well rounded is important, I agree with you. However, I think all of us have built in stereotypes based on economics, region, race, gender etc. It is tough to break them, not necessarily to ourselves, but to others. My favorite singers in the whole world are Brian McKnight and Luther Vandross (RIP). My favorite sport is basketball, and I’d rather eat fried chicken than steak….go figure. And to top it all off I’m a 29 year old church going married with two children white boy from the whitest state in the Union!!!Guess I don’t know what the hell I am. I represent everything.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Shine- 1) Kale IS special, but you must cook it with Braggs Liquid Aminos. 2) We are a public school, but a chartered one and 3) No summer programs 😦 Holler at me on the FB/Email tip if you are looking for something for next school year though.

30 05 2008
shabooty

isnt “BLK Brotha”
redundant?

🙂

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

Those ads were sickening… They only perpetuate self-hate and racism. Literally turns my stomach.

@ Knatural… They are going to tear down Iverson Mall and turn the lot it sat on for so many years into… what else? CONDOS!

*mumble*fuckinggentrification*mumble*

City Place Mall in Silver Spring also irks my nerves… They made it look all nice on the outside, but on the inside, it has the same no-name stores as Iverson Mall. In fact, City Place is like 1.5 steps away from actually being Iverson Mall. The only thing City Place has that Iverson doesn’t is the all of the restaurants, Cold Stone, and the movie theaters. The best store in City Place is Steve and Barry’s.

*mumble*fuckinggentrification*mumble*

30 05 2008
ishouldbeworking

OMG Merri Lee I went to college with the hypest piccilo player ever. And he was a 6 foot 2 Black man!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Yum KALE i love Kale mixed with Collards and Mustard greens…dammit i think “finna” have my man cook some greens this weekend yeeepp!

30 05 2008
Shine

Piccollo players have fingers on speed. I don’t even listen to the music, i just watch the precision finger movements and wait for one to break and go flying into the air at bulletspeed and kill somone.

Sorry ST but since I’m representing here I will have to mention I like no variation of greens, Kale, collards, turnip or mustard is all a yuck to me.

30 05 2008
Muse

I’m done with all these nutcase trolls. What happened to creativity?

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

CITY PLACE HAS A STEVE AND BARRYS? WORD?

Man, I remember when it wasnt SHIT in Silver Spring. Like, NOTHING, other than City Place and it wasn’t shit there but Nine West Outlet, some Korean shops and the bootleggest food court of life. They had all off brand food chains. Like “Taco Drum” and “Pizza House” and shit. One day, the Red Lobster opened and the floodgates were wide open! I love me some Cake Love and Romanos and that Borders and….aww, I miss my little suburb getaways from my DC life.

30 05 2008
Dustin

I’m so into Persians right now.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

I havent been to City Place in a minnnnnnnn..and i love what they have done with it..i love going to the resturants mostly..fuck the mall part..i like that big ass Beauty Shop they have on the corner.. and I got my nightstands from Bombay

30 05 2008
Shine

yea creative trolls are more fun. this is just boring.

30 05 2008
Muse

LMAO @ Shabooty’s ex gfs stalking him via internet.

30 05 2008
Omar

I hate gentrification in general (“Urban Renewal = Negro Removal”) but the fucked up thing about gentrification in DC is a lot of it is still bad how you paying a fortune to live somewhere and still getting shot at?!?!?

ST – City Place still has the most bootleg food court in history

30 05 2008
naapali

For someone who grew up in Nigeria and never had to deal with what “they” think of “us” until well in adulthood, I still identify a lot with your post. I of course have to add the I hope they don’t think I am going to be asking them for their account details to transfer money from late General Tso’s account in Switzerland. At least I did until I realized no white people around me felt any personal responsibility for the actions of another white person, even if they were family.

I am slowly working the ambassador of our people role out of the system, but it is not easy.

30 05 2008
B4Prez

I loved Silver Spring my first time there……but having come from upstate NY, I guesss it didn’t take much at the time…..

30 05 2008
mrsepps

shabooty bust a nut in under a minute. Sandnigger cant hold his nut.

ahhahaha Somalian Queen is at it again!

30 05 2008
AroundHarlem.com

I love to rep Harlem all day in every way.

I don’t go out of my way to do non-stereotypical things. I actually do the opposite.

I’m myself and prove that I can be what ever stereotype you think plus everything you thought Black people couldn’t be.

30 05 2008
Sister Toldja

*Shivers*

Anyway, Shabooty…..where exactly do you come to us from? Where do you sandcestors come from?

30 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Shabooty 20:37:30) :

isnt “BLK Brotha”
redundant?

Angie Stone wrote a song about it (like to hea’ it? Hea’ it go).

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

@ Omar…. That mess is ridiculous! 600k to live next to the projects. SMH. What’s worse is that the people they displace have no place else to go. I mean come on, who can really afford a 650k condo in the hood? And dont get me started on their “staduims.” They could have used that money to invest in the schools that have busted toilets, holes in the ceilings, and no heat/ac. I’ve actually seen w/ my own two eyes the disgusting cesspool that are the restrooms the children have to use. It is both sick and sad. Now they’re talking about a new stadium for the DC United (damn soccer). WTF?

Yeah, City Place has no-name stuff in the food court, like Brass Hen (lmao, I would remember the chicken place!), and some pita joint, and that’s all I can remember.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Shabooty likes to suck the blood clots out of pussy on the rag. Nasty fuckcock

umm eww..and Shabooty get these hoes in check ahha

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

Whoops. That should read “stadiums,” not “staduims.”

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

650K for a condo in the projects..f that…might as well get a detached single family home…

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

Brown Sugar (21:13:22) :

Whoops. That should read “stadiums,” not “staduims.”

*nerd alert* No, it should read “stadia” *nerd alert*

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

wow here we go again..with the high schoolers… ah its 5 pm i guess after school activities are over…smh

30 05 2008
Knatural

where’s Chris/SBPH to delete or block these trolls?

30 05 2008
Knatural

In junior high Shitty Place was the only movie theatre we could sneak into…memories

30 05 2008
B4Prez

@BrownSugar and
@Omar

That condo next door to the PJ’s swag has been goin’ down in NY for a long time. Harlem and Brooklyn both damn near look like something out of Sex in the City. Condos everywhere!!!! All you see around the city are signs with pics of the new condo development coming soon to the empty lot beneath it. And all for the starting price of $300,000 FOR A STUDIO! Meanwhile, there’s a construction disaster every month here in NY; the last one was this morning!

SMH

Have a good weekend all….I’m off to my shack across the street from the new condo development…

30 05 2008
Sylph

I hope no one’s holding him hostage.

Seriously, shim doesn’t have anything better to do than fuck up the flow of conversation. Where is he? Hell, where’s AF? I miss his long winded commentary.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

indeed Knat..indeed…lets keep it classy not trashy and i could careless what you think of me..can kiss my “Negroid” ass 🙂 now back to the topic..

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

ahhaha @Sylph’s take on AF’s comments.. dude could right a book the way he write on here…Chris is to busy checking out the hot lawyer lady and her tight work pants walk passed his window haha

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

Thanx for the correction, Merri Lee. Nerds, UNITE! teehee.

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

@ Mrs. Epps… The yuppies pay that price to live next to places like Sursum Quarters…. They’re nuts for that shit.

30 05 2008
Knatural

Sursum Corda is gross. It’s not even near metro, well Union Station, but it’s a nice walk.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Yea Brown Sugar…but this what our world has come to. next thing you know there will be no land left and we will foget what trees and grass looked like..its sad. Thats why Im glad we moved away from the hustle and bussel to upper marlboro near the courthouse… its very quite…and you dont ahve to worry about having a footpath going through your back yard going to a random bus-stop…no rift raft..but i miss florida though because i loved goign to the beach every friday…o well..

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Sugar my grandmother lives in a nice neighborhood in Northwest DC and the house across the street is going for a mill..i was like WHOAAAAA…if my grandma ever sold her house it would go for 1.5 mil because of all the work she did herself on her house..i woudl say its the best looking house on the block too…i hope she doesnt sell out and get a condo..too many memories there..

30 05 2008
Sue

@ Muse

My Dad said that about George Michael. I was soooo devasted and I vehemently defended his straightness…..Oops!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

yummm@ crawl fish over spanish rice Creole Lady making me hungry..10 mins til quittin time!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

umm ok…

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

adios everyone have a good weekend.. I’ll take a shot for you guys! 🙂

30 05 2008
Sue

@Muse

“My dad said guys with both ears pierced were fags LOL”

Just so my comment isn’t taken out of context

30 05 2008
Brown Sugar

@ Mrs. Epps… WTF? Since when did NW become Potomac, MD. That’s crazy, man. I mean houses in upper NW are nice, but they aint THAT nice. GAH!

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

girl i said the same shit when i asked the realtor about it..i seriously laughed in his face…

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

im stuckin in fucking traffic this is bullshit wasting my gas…lol gotta love blackberry..

30 05 2008
Jamie

Chris, i want to be your e-wife

30 05 2008
Lia

I can probably out-nerd many of you. I was in band(yes, the clarinet was my instrument, but only because my music teacher wouldn’t let me choose sax) for 8 years, choir all through jr high & hs plus I did, and rocked, every solo/ensemble contest from 4th grade to senior yr. I was always all-state, district, and regional in both band and choir. I was in NFL(that’s national forensics league) and FBLA for 4 yrs. That being said, I was also on varsity cheer & dance 4 yrs, as well as track. I don’t care for rap/hip hop today. I much prefer the stylings of people from Michael Buble to Jon McLaughlin to Adele. I didn’t know the soulja boy etc until long after, and I’m thrilled the snap movement is pretty much done. Plus I’m double majoring in music production & PR.

This can probably all be attributed to a)growing up in suburbia b)going to a private school and being “the token” with the exception of my siblings and c)my family is east african, so I didn’t grow up in a traditionally “black” home.

Sorry for rambling!

30 05 2008
Merri Lee

*pours some liquor out for the CreoleLady posts* Wait, should I be pouring liqueur?

30 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA liqueur. Now I’m “thirsty”.

30 05 2008
shabooty

good to kno i got fans out there.

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

ahh finally home sweet home… sippin on my wine…i want some cubes cheesea nd some crackers now..bleh

30 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

correction Cubed not cubes…

30 05 2008
thehealers

By constantly trying to prove yourself to others you place them in a position to deem whether or not you are beautiful/cultured/intelligent/worthy. Blacks need to start defining ourselves by our own criteria instead on what non-blacks deem acceptable. By trying to represent you are doing yourself a disservice. Constantly seeking the approval of non-blacks (as most EBP do) is the opposite side of the coin from cooning. Neither is a positive direction in defining and portraying one’s own identity.

30 05 2008
thehealers

What I’m trying to say is that if you like fried chicken then eat it when you want to eat it. White people don’t hide their love of casserole from us. If you like Cadillacs then buy one. Asians don’t refrain from buying Hondas to avoid fulfilling a stereotype. Be comfortable with who you are.

31 05 2008
zoso

@ Ms Kennedy

“I dont care. I will get fried chicken in a minute. I ALWAYS eat the watermelon unlike our sole black intern who I noticed picked up only the honeydew and kiwi on the fruit tray during thier welcome to “Hell” aka “The firm” brunch.”

Ay, give the intern a break. It’s hard being the only black intern – or being the intern and the only black person. Shoot. It’s bad enough I always double and triple check my work, going to great lengths to constantly have something to do – just to keep at bay the ‘lazy negro’ stereotype. It’s gotta be worse having a juicy watermelon in sight, on top of that, and trying to stay away from it. Thank goodness we’ve never had a luncheon at my firm. Although, yesterday, when discussing school, my boss did crack a joke about having a PhD (Player Hater Degree)… I cut him some slack since he’s half hispanic and just gave him the stink eye.

31 05 2008
letinstar

i hate that black people are the only people that get judged as a group while every other group gets to be judged as indivuals… i had a discussion with some white person who was bringing up al sharton and jesse jackson as representatives of all black people…while i’m no fan of either of these 2 people, i had point out that if you insist that all black people are represented by them, them i will say that the kkk, david duke and pat robertson is an accurate representative of white people…naturally, they were outraged…whatever…

anyways, i freely admit to loving my fried chicken and i make no apologies about that…and i’m a huge music fan of all times of music…i’ve seen the foo fighters and metallica LIVE, but i’ve also seen mary j blige, george clinton/parliament, rod stewart, faith hill, tim mcgraw and the dixie chicks and many, many others…

i also happen to speak english properly and without a boston accent, so when i’m around white people and i’m talking they never know what to think and i believe have become threatened because i don’t fit into their idea of what a black person is…a few years ago i was flying from phoenix to boston and the woman in the seat next to me struck up a conversation with me…as soon as i finished my sentence, she looked at me with her lips curled and asked me what i did for a living… it was not a compliment…

31 05 2008
Angry IV

1. I have and will NEVER airball a jumpshot on purpose. I can play ball, and damn whoever wants to talk shit about it step on the court.

2. I have NEVER walked around campus “buried in a Calculus book” because I was a) an engineering major and b) too busy checkin’ out the fauna. I also would never major in African-American Studies. I feel it is a cop-out major…how do you major in yourself??

3. I have and will NEVER blast Blink 182, Foo Fighters, or any other inexplicably “non-black” music. Hip-Hop is in my blood, and thusly it shall be played.

That is all. People can stereotype me all they want, but in the end they’ll just be more frustrated when they realize I’m better than them at life.

31 05 2008
Laurel

Ha ha @Angry IV. I agree 100%.
Personally, I’ve found that most people — black, white, Asian, etc. — are not worth the time and effort it takes to be so damned “on” all the time. Representing is not gonna change people’s minds about you if they want to see you in a certain way.
It’d be more fun to be spitting out watermelon seeds into the street from a beat-up couch on some front porch with junk-yard cars decorating the lawn than putting myself through the paces trying to convince some irrelevant YT person that I’m not Shaniqua Jackson.

31 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

Most stereotypes are based on some truth — no matter how small. And it’s not a lie that most young black men look like wannabe thugs.

That doesn’t mean most of you have to please whitey and try to act like a preppy white boy/girl.

Slavery ended baby, stop being such butt kissers!

31 05 2008
london

aaah but what about having to rep because another yet ‘different’ black person is starting to ruin the work you have done in educating yt for 5 years…
a new black woman has started working in my office… she is african… i am jamaican.. and to her – a slave baby.. and one with locs at that…
now..i speak perfect english i.e. not regional or cockney for that matter.., wear black pearl earrings – i never wear hoop earrings – ever…. have a to die for wardrobe, impeccable taste and have an influential, well maintained and powerful network within our company and beyond in the wider financial industry…. everyone knows me for the fierce work i do… i organise and run their events and conferences.. it is harder work than everyone thinks by the way…pleasant but hard!
i have to work closely with this little zimbabwean bitchette because she is an executive assistant to our new ceo and she has taken it upon herself to not only look down on and blank me but everyone else in the building…
everyone speaks to me about her asking wtf?.. she has completely blanked one of our female exec board members already… she must be suicidal?
i know she is young and has a lot to learn – she must be around 23/24 as she came to us as a graduate – but i am so close to strangling the shit out of her with her..
i have taken to speaking with her while sitting on the corner of her desk.. just to let her know.. and force the child to look up at me…
she is ruining all my hard work… and she dresses so very badly… have nicknamed her ‘the mugabe baby’ to he other black people in the office just so we can deal with her and keep smiling..

31 05 2008
ninasimone

.”i speak perfect english i.e. not regional or cockney for that matter.., wear black pearl earrings – i never wear hoop earrings – ever…. have a to die for wardrobe, impeccable taste and have an influential, well maintained and powerful network within our company and beyond in the wider financial industry”

wow..you should be so proud of yourself! do the white people know you’re black or have you successfully “fooled” them with your pearl earrings ( no hoops EVER) and your wardrobe?

I really do hate my people sometime

31 05 2008
ninasimone

“I also would never major in African-American Studies. I feel it is a cop-out major…how do you major in yourself??”

this is a ridiculous statement as many black people dont know shit about themselves or their history beyond the recycling done during Feb. Plenty of folks have never heard of Ralph Ellison or Richard Wright…and all they know about Du Bois is the talented tenth bullshit—which if you read the man you know he was about more than that…there was a club/org called the Talented Tenth at HU of all places when I was there…bougie-ass-negroes. But yea..just to say it is very clear that most of us dont know a damn thing about who we are ( I wonder if the blog owner is aware of the crazy similiarities with many african cultures in the point he makes about native americans in the feminity blog )

btw, i didnt major in af-am studies…should have though…i was a bio/chem major—-worthless if you dont intend to go to medical school ( which is better known as hell…..off to study)

31 05 2008
ninasimone

“Most stereotypes are based on some truth — no matter how small. And it’s not a lie that most young black men look like wannabe thugs.

That doesn’t mean most of you have to please whitey and try to act like a preppy white boy/girl.

Slavery ended baby, stop being such butt kissers!”

your posts are very …special

31 05 2008
zoso

Special, yeah… we’ll stay with special.

31 05 2008
london

@nina
i am blacker than you sweetheart and can afford pearls and a great wardrobe…
i don’t dress white… i dress in quite a singular way yet befitting my job..
no ass kissing.. most of the people have never heard of the people who make my clothes… it took some time to get used to my style – but the did..
my father told me i would have to work 6 times harder to get where i want.. 3 times harder because i am black and three times because i am a woman.. now it seems i may have to add another 3 times because of hating negroes eh?
oh and the hoop earrings thing… my mother never wears them or checked fabric… too country..

31 05 2008
london

ahem.. i mean ”but they did”

1 06 2008
Jaddadalos

“In many situations, we take it upon ourselves to represent the true nature and capabilities of the race towards those whose impressions of black people come from loud and foul-mouthed children on the Metro and Yo MTV Raps.”

It’s something I think about as a high school teacher in Philly. It’s not only exhausting to be consistently aware of the perception that Black folks follow specific cultural patterns, but it is doubly exhausting for me to realize that many times the younger generation 1) almost willingly plays into existing stereotypes, 2) Is unaware of subtle racism, and 3) Does not even know that there is a “game” that often NEEDS to be played because of our racist society. Mattafact, my Black students have called me racist when I have tried to discuss with them some perceptions that exist “out there” about them. And I understand the decision to say “eff ’em” and let folks think what they want, but I see that as an intentional choice made when one is aware of those outside perceptions (and, ultimately, forces that constitute institutionalized racism) and consciously decides to “do you” no matter what. At that point, there is an ability to articulate (on some level…) a lot of the things that folks on this post are aware of when it comes to not allowing others to define you. It’s difficult to help young folks gather the awareness that will allow them to recognize “the game” and know when to make that choice to stop playing.

C’mon summer vacation…

1 06 2008
Deesigner

Did anyone see the SNTC movie last night?

After reading this blog on representing then going to seethe film, I got instantly pissed off at the way that that the token blacks were potrayed. (Read ahead if you don’t want me to spoil the movie for you.)

***********SPOILER ALERT******************************************************
The film was actually quite entertaining but I could not help but wonder why Jennifer Hudson had to come across as soooooooo country. And her mini commercial for BBS was ridiculous “…its like netflix for purses”. Why did everyone else get to shop at all the exclusive boutiques, but the black chick rented her purses on the internet, She only got her own LV when Carrie gave ger one, WTF???????????? She remimded me of a mammy, fussing over Carrie and acting like a slave.
Why was her family the only bumpkin looking people in the entire film? and what was up with the badassed little girl in the bridal boutique?
And why was her boyfriend portrayed like an ass but never allowed to redeem himself in the story line? He breaks her heart and next thing you know they are getting married, no explanation.
**********************************************************************************

What does this have to do with representing? Everything. The only way that the SNTC people could write us into the fantasy that they have created is to relegate us to Mammy, Badass Kid (albeit a tiny role) and No Good Man. Old stereotypes revived.

1 06 2008
Sister Toldja

“I also would never major in African-American Studies. I feel it is a cop-out major…how do you major in yourself??”

OMFG, that is the DUMBEST shit I ever heard in my life. I didn’t major in Afro-Am either, but I did take a few classes in the department at HU under Dr. Gregory Carr, who is the most brilliant and gifted instructor I have ever met, along with Afro-Am English classes under Dr. Greg Hampton (these two gentlemen might be H.L. Gates and C. West status someday, get familiar!). It breaks my heart to hear such as base assumption and sad lack of cultural pride for one to believe that majoring in Black studies is simply learning a bunch of stuff you already knew. Even if it were, there is no one else I rather major in! Dummy.

Nina- If I recall, the cats who started the Talenth Tenth were cool peoples. They could’ve chose a better name, but I feel the intent was good and they weren’t (as I recall) the bougie dudes on campus.

London-I understand what you are saying, I think. You represent yourself and your people well, and then a Black woman of another culture comes in and, by the virtue of your shared Negritude, makes you look bad by no fault of your own. However, when you talk about your wardrobe and lack of hoop earrings (LOL, I never realized that was mirred in stereotype. Oh well, I don’t give a fuck, they look good on me!), it sounds elitist. Out of curiosity, have you tried helping a young sista out? I’d check her ass quick, fast and in a hurry about her cultural predjudices and make sure she knew that the Jamaican lady was the one kicking ass and taking names in the office, whilst she was heading towards being termed.

1 06 2008
nelo

Am I the only black person that doesn’t like watermelon?

1 06 2008
ninasimone

SisterToldjah…you’re right about the guys and I guess I came off too harsh in my post…but I have a problem with the very idea that there is a small gifted portion of black society…the whole of the author’s work does not purport that point…people focus on it but his work was about more than that…thats what I was trying to say…the notion of a talented tenth is elitist. AND 10000000000000% cosign on Dr. Carr and Dr. Hampton…took both of their classes…loved them!!! Dr. Carr is amazing.

London,
you dont at all get my point? you are blacker than me? What the hell does that mean? LOL!!! I dont say shit like hoop earrings are country ( when various folks throughout the diaspora and on the continent have worn them as an adornment for years upon years). I usuallly wear studs myself since Im in the library but I will wear a hoop and many other earrings that Ive gotten while in Africa and around the US. Sweetie, if your pearls make you feel valuable, then great. Thats another thing I hate about black people—the need for shit to make you feel like something. To quote a blogger, I truly hurt for my people. We need mass therapy. The Fuckedupness is pervasive.

“i don’t dress white… i dress in quite a singular way yet befitting my job..
no ass kissing.. most of the people have never heard of the people who make my clothes… it took some time to get used to my style – but the did..
my father told me i would have to work 6 times harder to get where i want.. 3 times harder because i am black and three times because i am a woman.. now it seems i may have to add another 3 times because of hating negroes eh?
oh and the hoop earrings thing… my mother never wears them or checked fabric… too country..”

you totally missed my point. and you’re a bit slow i see….thats okay. Ill be real general and remdial. I said nothing about you dressing “white” ( I wear what the eff I want and have had other black folks direct this type of comment at me so I would never dish it out..I dont pigeonhole people–I just hate to see someone think their expensive wardrobe and “good taste” in tacky ass pearl earrings makes them valuable or cultured…it doesnt…just so we’re clear since you;re a slow one)

you sound like someone who just got some money and the class is slow in coming…keep wearing the earring and swearing off the checkered dresses…im sure its helping… and your father is right. Im a black female..will be a MD in two years…I for damn sure wont be turning my nose down at black folks who are trying to do well for themselves and make a place for themselves..and I for damn sure wont be tying my self worth to what hangs in my closet or what I wear on my feet. Id rather own some property and travel…but thats just me….its quite possible I came off ruder than neccessary to you but your type of mentality is highly offensive plus im irritable lol

1 06 2008
ninasimone

“remedial”

add: i also wont be thinking those additional letters makes me better than the next person…i feel pride in what I will be able to do –thats what I meant by agreeing with your father.
why do you care if people accept your wardrobe????? I dont understand…most humans are crazy and special

(misanthrope)

1 06 2008
ninasimone

i know what set me off…your mugabe comment combined with everything else…i should have come at you like a lady but that made me blow my top….dont worry the myelination in my brain isnt complete…Im only 25…got lots to learn

1 06 2008
Brown Sugar

@ nelo

I hate watermelon!

1 06 2008
mari

@Merri Lee- i think i’m the biggest band nerd of all (in regards to the flute). pay attention now…i played/currently play: Piccolo, Flute, Alto Flute, and Bass Flute, and i am really trying to find out how i can get to play the Contra Bass Flute. yeah…i believe i’ve just won the official band nerd competition, lol!

this entry was SOOOO on point; i just wrote about how now that i’m at my extra YT private/liberal arts school in the midwest, i feel like i’m “black until proven otherwise”…i hate that ish! i’m so tired of ppl turning and looking at me with surprise when i walk into class and speak ‘so well’. WTF?!? and have y’all ever noticed that when yts mention something to you about whatever they think every black person knows they give you this EXTRA eager look like they just ‘bridged the gap’ or something??? ugh.

it’s taken me a long while to realize that my friends of a lesser level of melanin were stereotyping so much just because i wasn’t used to it at all before i came here, but trust that i get it now. also, i feel like i have to rep my musical status SO hard on campus because i am LITERALLY the only black female (maybe black person??) in the entire school of music. ppl look at me crazy when i play, just because i’m black and i can hit a high B flat on the piccolo. it’s not that miraculous! and oh yeah, the oboe is a killer…if there was ever an instrument that needed to die, lol, and clarinets SUCK at tounging:oP

1 06 2008
london

nina, nina, nina…. whoo… i go out for indian meal and a bottle of blanc de blancs or 2 with friends to celebrate the weekend and wake up to this… good morning everyone!
*sups coffee and flexes fingers*

you clearly do not understand what i was saying… you focused on the earrings and wardrobe.. i was merely describing how i dress.. i got carried away and said a few things out loud that affect my choice of business attire and it upset you..

oh well..
it’s early and i may jump around a bit – but stay with me here..

i do own my property – i collect art amongst other things and travel extensively… am so glad you have a nice little collection of african jewllery.. i went for some early to mid 20th century textiles..
i have worked hard for what i have.. and i have ‘impeccable taste’. don’t get it twisted darling..
i didn’t and still don’t give a fuck about their thoughts re what i wear.. they had to get used to it… and yet i am still their representing the company at the highest levels…
no – you didn’t get it…
i think i have shared before that i came up in the fashion industry in the late 80’s and 90’s.. i have a deep love for clothes – and it’s not all about labels… i do not roll like that – i am serious…. i have a collection of pieces..
some people love their cars… some people love boats… some people love jewellery..

oh & i wear black pearls because i wear black 99.5702% of the time and with my locs they are easy.. i never wear white or pink or any other colour pearls because they do not go with my austere style.. anyone have a problem with that? get in line please.. i will feed you your own ass in good time..

my self worth comes from within.. i have also said before that i was brought up to know my shit don’t stink.. am a as good if not better than my contemporaries…
i think sister t bawled me out on that one… however i will never apologise for the way my parents raised me up.. i am their only girl child.. i have never let them down… except for growing my locs.. i caught & still catch hell from my mother for that i will have you know.. but i digress again..

oh & don’t come at me as a lady.. come as you are.. irritably remedial is it today?

& i am far from slow littl’un.. i chose what i do.. i am a coroner by training if you want to sling education at me.. when push came to shove the prospect of cadavers day in and day out didn’t do it for me a much as say cavalli .. so i switched careers..
and all because i can and do what makes me happy… something else my parents taught me…

i am a snob… i have my high standards.. they clearly are at odds with yours..
i am not hurting anybody… i certainly do not look down on anyone at the first encounter, that would be very rude and unbecoming – you certainly cannot get away with that shit abroad… you need to give me reason to and then i will if i can be bothered speaking with you subsequently in any case..

sister t.. right on the money for first 2 or 3 lines to ‘i think’…i have reached out to the young’n but she’s just not having it… what else to do? this chick is driving all us black people at work to distraction and especially the african contingent, they cannot believe their little sister is acting up.. for shame – i have to work closest with her and i am the most natural relationship builder so by default i am to sort her out…
everyone wants to kick her ass within moments of encountering her.. when her boss left his old office with her – the people left behind were so happy.. i believe they cheered and went out for drinks from the gossip i am getting..
i will raise this issue with my father later today too… he must have some pearls of wisdom on this..
oops i said pearls again.. ha ha..
@ nelo… no you are not… just like i am not the only one who cannot abide plantain…
@deesigner.. i will never go and see sitc.. i would rather shove hot pokers in my eyes than watch that drivel… i watched 10 mins of one episode.. 10 mins i will never get back… pure shite… it is bridget jones all over again.. another whiny navel gazing movie for stupid yt women who cannot get any… silly cunts…

right – that’s it for today peeps… coffee is finished and so i am audi..
good times.. thanks..

1 06 2008
Danger Mouse

@ Nelo,

I hate watermelon too!!

And I get teased all the time about my “low level” of blackness because I don’t really like fried chicken, buffalo wings, collard greens loaded with hamhocks, chitlins, pig’s feet (though I’ve encountered alot of blacks who do not seem to enjoy eating these last three foods too) and a few other types of soul foods.

Now don’t get me wrong, I do love some soul food, just not the stuff listed above.

1 06 2008
Angry IV

Shit, black white or indifferent I still love watermelon…y’all are trippin’ hahaha.

1 06 2008
zoso

@ mari: You don’t wanna start a band geek fight. I played clarinet (various types) all throughout school. Marching band, jazz band, symphonic band, wind ensemble, orchestra, chamber, etc. Don’t hate ’cause it takes that good tongue action you ain’t got.

1 06 2008
ninabrown

i def feel the need to represent towards blacks who are not aware….you know the kind that stupidly laught at white people who poke fun at our culture…dumb asses
esp those who feel they are truly black because they attended a HBCU-i’m referring to the one who laughs at white people’s jokes-who poke fun at our culture (a co-worker/black girl from the outskirts of miami)-whytf did she attend a HBCU (bethune-cookman)? she didn’t learn a damn thing!

1 06 2008
mari

@zoso- lol, i’m gonna go ‘head and let the band nerd train stop here:o)

1 06 2008
ninasimone

“have ‘impeccable taste’. don’t get it twisted darling..” …these two comments juxtaposed together…yes you are just an ocean of class! did you roll your neck and snap in Z formation?

im not slinging education at you…you come as the type to care about shit like that so Im simply meeting you where you are or trying to because its a stretch for me to be classist and elitist.

its okay to be slow..its not okay to know you;re slow and refuse to do shit about it….DO BETTER.

“my self worth comes from within”

say it till you believe it, older one, say it till you believe it

1 06 2008
Shine

Mmmm is it watermelon season yet? Where’s ole boy fresh from the country with the truck of melons on the side of the road… i’s so hongry now. Prolly cuz its hot as all F#*( in my apt. right now. Gotta go find some cool

2 06 2008
zoso

@ mari- yup. nah j/k. i was hoping to create some fake shyt to challenge the drama that’s always up here. oh well, there’s always band camp.

2 06 2008
london

“have ‘impeccable taste’. don’t get it twisted darling..” …these two comments juxtaposed together…yes you are just an ocean of class! did you roll your neck and snap in Z formation?
…i am just speaking to you so you’d understand – i had fun typing that.. and am from england we don’t roll our necks and snap our fingers.. i have seen it done on the tv though..

its a stretch for me to be classist and elitist.
… i can tell.. this whole conversation seems to be a stretch for you..
.. hierarchy is no bad thing.. every society needs structure..
it has been drummed into you by that it is bad and should not exist, meanwhile, those people doing the drumming saying elitism is bad are the elite… go figure.. wake up..

its okay to be slow..its not okay to know you;re slow and refuse to do shit about it….DO BETTER.
.. you mean ‘you’re…’
……i do better and i am better…. you are not paying attention..
i say.. act better, be better, do better…
life is competitive.. or did all the kids get prizes just for showing up erm i mean ‘participating’ when you grew up?
get over it. – 70’s do gooding throwback notions like that are designed to make the weak feel ok being sub par rather than help them strive to do better… ooh you came last little bobby but don’t worry, don’t cry- you can have a medal too!.. ridiculous…
only the winners survive… that’s life.. that’s evolution… wake up..

say it till you believe it, older one, say it till you believe it
…my self worth is innate…

goodness is that the time..
toodles…

2 06 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

I failed to read ALL the comments, but did anyone mention the other side of representing – where we have to “keep it real?”
I don’t know about you guys, but I have to defend “talking white” and the fact that i’ve been to college (repeatedly) to locals, cousins and other extended family members, haters, etc. . . They missed that whole “when keeping it real goes wrong” series on the Chappelle Show, and as a result, still expect me to be down for a brawl at the club, “hook them up” with something (a girlfriend, a job), or give them a free handout.
No, I do not have your back, i won’t “hook up” anything when my credibility is on the line, and ain’t a damn thing free, so why am I a “sell out” when I refuse?
Am i the only one who encounters this?

2 06 2008
Sue

@Mrs Kennedy

No hon, I’ve been there, parked and never left.

Living in Baltimore I’ve had the special experience of being accused of thinking I’m better than other black people. Why? Because I went to the extra trouble of getting a degree ( I don’t broadcast it my license plate does), I don’t speak Baltimorean and I don’t hang out on the front steps (that is the tackiest shit!) and I don’t fancy the thug look so the drug dealers and their associates won’t get the time of day from me. I also have the nerve to want a trash-free block! (smh)

I was raised entirely different from people here. My parents were a strong influence in my life so I know that made the difference. Like many of you here I was taught that you have to work hard to get what you want and you can’t depend on others to get it for you. I live among people who have the exact opposite mentality. Its frustrating as hell to watch these people, some who have really great potential, throw their lives away. Makes me want to scream.

2 06 2008
london

amen, if i was so inclined to say that normally, @ mrs kennedy and sue…

2 06 2008
zoso

.. hierarchy is no bad thing.. every society needs structure..

True, but it depends on its form and how, when, where it’s used.

3 06 2008
ninasimone

“you mean ‘you’re…’”

you felt the need to point out a semicolon? a semicolon????? are you serious? Fool, i type fast and inaccurately because I visit this type on my short study breaks..isnt there a post here or some other type about black folks loving to correct people? I bet you salivated and everything when you saw the semicolon…felt all superior too I bet…did your eye get all effed up like uncle ruckus. Glad I could help you get off today:-) As for the rest of the insanity you posted, Im going to cease responding to a black person like you because you make the posterior limb of my interior capsule itch ( didnt know it could!) I abhor negroes who say shit like that.

“True, but it depends on its form and how, when, where it’s used.”

Agreed… and there are so many of us who simply want to trade places instead of dismantling unjust systems….I think they should be shot of a cannon somewhere far far from here.

3 06 2008
ninasimone

type = site…lest help her bust another one

(sorry for my vulgarity…Im tired)

3 06 2008
ninasimone

final correction before I take my but too sleep…

“shot out of a cannon”

“lest i help her get off again”

there…no nipping now

3 06 2008
ninasimone

butt

3 06 2008
london

ninny nanna nina noonoo…..
you are asleep indeed… and yes, so very tired..
you could not get me off if you tried all year darl’… you are quite evidently not woman enough..
go get your kindergarten medal… you tried.. you failed… you will be rewarded and praised and patted on the head… it’s all good…
must be nice to be so very equal…
all the drive sucked out of you…
so tame… so acquiescent..
you voted for missy hillary didn’t you…

i have work to do and another few posts to read.. toodles..
*LOL all the way..*

5 06 2008
Midstate

I hate watermelon too (I’m always the only black person that doesnt like watermelon to some people)

I hate cantaloupe and honey dew too. They’re the only fruits I can’t stand. It sucks because most times fruit salad has so much of both of them they crowd out the other good fruits

5 06 2008
DottyWine

I don’t do things with intention of breaking stereotypes. If I want to listen to that Stephanie Chen playing on the piano, I blast it. But sometimes someone will pull up next to me and I’ll think … the most stupid thing… “Yeah, black people can listen to classical, too”.

UGH! I hate when I do that…

But, for real… if I want some m-fin’ fried chicken, I will eat that mug I do not give a flying feck who is there watching me. And sometimes someone will laugh and say “You’re so black! You’re just filling the streotype perfectly, you know that?” and I will say “I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT STEREOTYPES! IM HUNGRY!”

“LoL Dotty… blasting rap music? Really?’ “I DONT GIVE A FUCK! I LIKE THIS SONG!”

Haha.

19 06 2008
Kit (Keep It Trill)

I’m feeling ya.

23 07 2008
The ‘Hater’ Defense « Stuff Black People Hate

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7 08 2008
toddyenglish

LOL love this post, because everytime I hear about a felony on the news my gut reaction is, “Lawd please don’t let this be a black man.” Because I KNOW he is going to representing the entire race, therefore I must be extra clean cut, well dressed, articulate, and blast my Beatles/Rolling stones CD when I would RATHER be listening to some classic 1970’s SOUL.

On that note I don’t really engender alot of fear from whites. I’m 5’6, light complexioned, and wear Tommy Hilfiger clothes. I’m “safe.”
So most people think. I turn into Michael Evans from Goodtimes when I get home.

22 08 2008
Cherokees « Stuff Black People Hate

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23 08 2008
Marcus

I’m guilty of just about everything on that list except for the one about burying my nose in a calculus book. The only thing is, all of that comes naturally to me anyway. I usually end up acting LESS like myself when I’m surrounded by nothing but my own people to avoid the “suburban blacks are imitation white people” stereotype.

25 03 2009
Nine

Hahaha so true. This actually is a real pyschological afflication called stereotype threat. Stereotype threat is where you are afraid your behavior will confirm an existing stereotype of your people.
And there have been studies done that show it’s actually one of the reasons Black people may do worse on tests. Basically-stereotypes can be self fulfilling prophecies. In fact the study done was something similiar to what Chris described– they had a test group made up of Black people and had them take two tests. Before one of the tests the first Black test group was told that their scores would be used to represent all Black people and predicatably the scores were noticeably lower than when they were only representing themselves.

This is why we must stop this, trying to prove ourselves is only hurting us.

17 08 2009
Matt

Stereotypes suck for sure its a shame that where I live almost everyone you meet acts in stereotypes which is a shame but you shouldn’t feel a need to go out of your way just to prove you’re not a stereotype especially blasting music you don’t like it really proves nothing, being yourself is the best thing about living fuck what others think.

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