‘Creole’ Chicks

13 05 2008

If I hear one more person justify Beyonce’s increasing whiteness by saying “she’s not getting white, she’s just Creole!”, I am going to murder every single person I meet for the next hour.

The term ‘Creole’  was originally used to describe olive-skinned folks from Louisiana who had some mixture of French, Spanish, Black, and/or Native American ancestry, and spoke a language of the same name. More recently, ‘Creole’ has become a moniker used by pompous light-skinned fucktards to justify buying into and promoting caucasian standards of beauty.

Figure 1: Shrimp Creole – the only acceptable form of Creole

Some of these motherfuckers running around calling themselves Creole have no ancestral ties to Louisiana. They don’t speak Creole. They’ve never even BEEN to Louisiana. But that won’t stop the local resident douchebitch who happens to have ‘good hair’ from dying it blonde, getting Japanese straightening or whatever the fuck it’s called, throwing in green contact lenses, and running around claiming (implicitly or directly) to be better than ‘regular’ black people.

If she’s a REAL cunt, she’ll give the name some weird spelling like ‘Kreyole’ or ‘Creyol’ when she fills out some government form that asks for your race. She won’t check black, or white, or native american – NOPE! She’ll check the ‘Other’ box and write ‘Kreyole’ in the space next to it because she’s way too exotic and special to be a nigger, redskin, cracker, or some combination of these played out races.

The following is the internal monologue of the fake Creole chick:

“If I say I’m Khreyowle, then people will think I’m sophisticated! They’ll think I’m descended from French people and drink martini’s with extra extra dry vermouth while speaking a combination of French and Spanish to my friends while cruising on my superstar athlete husband’s yacht.”

Figure 2: Delusions of a pompous shit-brick

“They’ll think that my freakishly straight blond hair with pubes that don’t match is somehow natural! I’ll also have skin that’s tan but not niggerish, and I can lighten it with makeup JUST enough to rise above my blackness, but fall short of being considered white! Yay, racial purgatory! They’ll fall for this even though I can’t distinguish between Creole and Cajun, have no idea that Creole is also a language, and couldn’t point out Louisiana on a map OF Louisiana.”

The following is the internal monologue of the pompous real Creole chick:*

“Mmm mmm mmm, I sure am FINE. I’m kinda black, but my hair is naturally straight, my skin and eyes are light, and the media has decided that I’m what everyone wants. Oh I know! I’ll leverage my blackness and start a music career! Just for good measure, I’ll make sure my backup singers are darker than me in skin tone and/or hair color so that little nappy headed girls all over the world will know that light skin and long light straight hair comes first.”

Figure 3: In case you hadn’t figured out who I’m talking about yet…

As I reach a wider and wider audience, I’ll lighten myself just slowly enough so the average idiot won’t be able to notice. This will make me more acceptable to white and international audiences, and I’ll just ignore the collateral damage it does to the body image of the black adolescent girls that got me where I am in the first place. I’ll contribute further to the decline of black people by encouraging use of the word ‘conversate’ and being in a relationship with a man whose success was built on encouraging young black men to be promiscuous, experiment with cocaine, and kill people. After all, the ends justify the means! TEE HEE! Despite my active and conscious participation in the erosion of the black sense of self, people will ignore and even defend my behavior because – GASP – I’m just Creole!”

I can’t write anymore. There’s a fucking fire alarm going off in the office, and the blood vessel above my right eye is about to burst. I fucking goddamn hate everything.

*No, I do not think all Creole women are pompous. Please get off my nuts.

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593 responses

13 05 2008

where is grimm?

13 05 2008
imaG

lol creole. hate that shit

http://www.anythingblack.net

13 05 2008

do you secretly love beyonce?

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Oh, I’d like to add to the list of Beyonce’s attrocities, this little ditty:

“If his status ain’t hood,
I ain’t checkin’ for him,
Better be street if he lookin’ at me”

WTF!!! Yeah, way to give our young black men something to aspire to Beyonce’. Thanks.

13 05 2008
Quiet Storm

“Yay, racial purgatory!”

Water is now on laptop screen from uncontrollable laughter

13 05 2008
thechad1911

lol. as much as i like to LOOK at Beyonce’ (did y’all see her back in ’98!?) i know she’s nothing but an optical illusion. In the morning she probably looks more like Jay-Z…

p.s. you gotta a new reader/poster outta me… be prepared.

http://trialandera.wordpress.com/

13 05 2008
Esquire

Sigh. you have done it again. Another great post. The discussion on here today is sure to be on fire.

What a great way to describe Beyonce and Jigga man aka Jigga boo aka Jehovah..(I thought his name was Jesus…I stand corrected)

Surely people will attack this post by pointing out how much money Beyonce and Hov have made, they are moguls! blah blah blah. This arugment is probably from the same people blasting lil wayne’s Lollipop and wondering why thier 13 year old cousin just had a baby by Big T, the neighborhood dope dealer.

13 05 2008
benjie

“I’ll contribute further to the decline of black people by encouraging use of the word ‘conversate’”

lmao… thank you for that.
whenever anyone (and I mean anyone. friends, family, random strangers on streets and public trans) says “conversate” i cringe, gasp audibly and yell “IT”S CONVERSE!! ASS!!”

ugh.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Khreyol!!! AAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH!

“I’ll contribute further to the decline of black people by encouraging use of the word ‘conversate’ and being in a relationship with a man whose success was built on encouraging young black men to be promiscuous, experiment with cocaine, and kill people. “-Chris

This sentence makes my heart sing, birthday twin. People fail to realize that Bey and Jay are nothing more than the charasmatic neighborhood drug dealer and his pretty-cum-slutty wife, albeit with a whole lot more money.

Can I submit “And I’ll encourage little Black girls, even the darkies, to go out and get them a ‘Soldier’ like I did! ,“If your status ain’t hood, I ain’t checkin for you/Gotta be street if you’re checking for me”! Even though, by my own admission, I have never been to the ghetto and my daddy worked for IBM”.

13 05 2008
Esquire

Conversate is a word! Quit being so dramatical benjie

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Also: who wants to cry?

Beyonce “Creole” lyrics!!!!
http://www.lyricsspot.com/beyonce-creole-lyrics-1062635.html

She is a walking quadroon ball. And proud.

13 05 2008
Esquire

@ Sister be quiet!
IBM is so hood. And Beyonce knows LOTS of thugs. Like 50 cent, Akon, Lil Wayne. Being around all those killers, Im sure she is hood too.

Its cool to be hood. Im going to give back my JD and rep the skreets, my niggas.

13 05 2008
Knatural

Grimm, where’s Grimm

13 05 2008
Angry v3.2b

Man……I was really feeling this blog before but this one is off the mark. Beyonce becoming white? With a name like Beyonce? With her music? And she’s married to Jay-Z?

Either this one’s off the mark, or I’m just out of touch with something that everyone else is out of touch with as well.

13 05 2008
I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way

Fuck the bullshit, I still say Latoya was alwasy the best looking one. And that has to be one of the best pictures (of the thousands of coquette-ish photos Matthew Knowles had them take) I’ve ever seen of them.

Anyway, I don’t ususally hear people make the Creole claim if they have no family from LA, AL, or East TX. But the same general point you’re making definitely applies to folks in general who want to cite anything but their basic African heritage when discussing background. I asked this one cat in school where his family was from. Expecting this dude to be like “Virginia, Georgia, Mississippi, some shit like that. The nigga says “my great-grandmother was from Brazil.” And he left it at that. As if that 1/16 of his heritage represents the majority of what he descends from. We all rolled our eyes at the lunchtable and moved on to the next topic.

My thing is, if you couldn’t follow along with Jaspora, Yele, or track #24 from Wyclef’s first solo album, miss me with that shit. (j/k)

13 05 2008

conversate is not a word it’s a slang word…a back-formation of the word conversation. Conversate isn’t in the dictionary

13 05 2008
puff

@ sister

yo those creole lyrics had me confused – is that a recipe gumbo or a human being she’s singing about?

13 05 2008
puff

* gumbo recipe

13 05 2008
zoso

In defense, I’m always loathe to check racial boxes. Why is my race essential to every form I fill out? To help some jackmonkey play social mathematician with the statistics he conjures up. Sometimes I put in all sorts of stuff just to throw them off. I took a chili’s survey today and clicked a pay bracket of $100-140k, with a race of other (there was nowhere to fill in made-up one). Acting out isn’t always bad. What’s this obsession with racial statistics anyway?

13 05 2008
zoso

@ I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way: Cocoa Pebbles are better.

13 05 2008
Muse

Colorism in the Black community is alive and well. Even the so called educated Blacks are guilty of this. Growing up I never had to deal with colorism issues because my parents weren’t having that. My siblings and I range from pale (my older brother) to brown (myself). Sadly when I went college, I had my first dose of colorism was when an ignorant Black guy said “I don’t usually date dark hued women but you are pretty for not being light skin” I was like WTF?! Was that supposed to be a compliment? Are darkies the fuglies of the earth that should bow down to our light skin counterparts? My cousin who lives in DC is very light and use to encounter men making a play on her solely for her light skin. They’ll make comments like ooooh I love that you look Creole and/or Mixed when in fact that both of her parents are Black.

Although I don’t personally have self esteem issues with my skin color (which I absolutely love), I do feel for my dark skin Black women because as a group we get shitted on and viewed as less desirable which is bull because I’ve seen some HOT dark skin chicks. Another beef I have with some black people is the whole “Good hair/Bad hair” argument. My momma always said good hair is CLEAN hair! Black women should have to be defined by their hair. Someone tried that “oh you have good hair” crap on me before and I had to check them because it’s ignorant and perpetuates the self hate in our community. Kinky hair is beautiful, curly hair is beautiful, straight hair (Um sometimes because some Black women over do the perm leaving their hair stringy looking) is cute.

13 05 2008
Roger

You just mad cause you ain’t Creole!(j/k)

Seriously, though, what I’m sick of are sisters and brothers with light contacts–I swear, green (or worse, blue) contacts in the eyes of some Kneegrow who’s about real dark just look WRONG. Wrong, Wrong, WRONG! And THEN, they have the au-fuckin-dacity to act as though those contacts are their real eye color.

13 05 2008
benjie

lol @ dramatical

i had an ex who used to say irregardless. and basically use words incorrectly because he wanted to sound smarter…

yeah it didn’t last long

13 05 2008
Roger

@Muse:

You know, you would NOT believe–or maybe you might–the isht I’ve dealt with because I’m light skindeded (j/k)…AND have light eyes. I had some nimrod back in college tell me that I was “typically fine.” Mind you, I was a stringbean for many, many years, and am a freakin’ nerd. I looked at, well, let’s call her “Heffa,” and asked “Huh?” Heffa follows up with, “You know, light skin, pretty eyes.” I’m like, “Thanks…I think?”

Fast forward to Atlanta (home of the pretentious fuckwad) and I meet this guy at a club. We’re talking and then…”You’re just the kind of boy I like; light skin, pretty eyes.”

Uh, first: “boy”?? And then you reduce me to your fetish? “BOY??!??” And THEN, another fool another time tells me, “Oh, light skinned guys aren’t ‘in’ anymore.” Like I can go to Wal-Mart or something and just pick up another skin or something. Excuse me, do you have a Perry Ellis in Negro?

13 05 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

I went to high school with a girl who would tell you, to your face, “I’m not black. I’m Creole.”
Tracey T., this blog is for you. Please, please please, get the fuck over yourself.
Thank you, Chris.

13 05 2008
Sue

OMG Muse!!! I feel you on that Good hair/Bad hair thing! I have a hair texture that allows me to be real straight or real curly whenever I want! For this I get the “you must have good hair” bit. I find that sooo offensive so I usually respond like “Good hair as opposed to what…bad hair? Oh so you’re saying God gave you bad hair?” Someone actually responded “yes” to that. I was too through! (as we say in the dirty, dirty).

So its Creole now huh? Back in the day it used to be we got “Indian” in our family!

13 05 2008
Lolo

http://blacksnob.blogspot.com/2008/05/miss-usa-crystle-stewart-and-stock.html

One of the most moving pieces I’ve ever read. Honestly, just raise our children to see the beauty in themselves and then to move on to what really endures.

13 05 2008
Lindsay

Love this disclaimer.

I should mention that it doesn’t stop at Creole chicks, or those who are light-skinned.

I went to high school with two (count ’em two) people as brown as me (peep the snapshot) who would openly refute their blackness in casual conversation (read: no one was directly saying “you are black” or asking what race they were) by saying they were Creole.

When asked “so what about being Creole doesn’t make you black?” they couldn’t answer. Sigh…

13 05 2008
Dom

Thanks for this topic! You really hit the nail on the head with this one!

To be honest with you, I never even heard of “Creole” until I started reasing this board and a frequent visitor (who shall remain namelss) was spouting this bull.

To me, this term is just as offensive as Cabaclasian, or whatever else black celebs want to call themselves to keep from being stigmatized. Bey and Tiger both deserve a good swift kick in the ass for this one!

13 05 2008
Monie

This is a complicated subject. A lot of people have self-hate issues. When I run into a Black person with these issues I always hope they will, in time, learn to love themselves. I know that sounds corny but they are the ones who truly suffer.

And we aren’t the only ethnic group that deals with this stuff. Just look at Mexican media, see all the light Mexicans. Or South Asian media, Indians are more colorstruck than we are.

And have you seen the Asians walking around with umbrellas on sunny days?

The Europeans did their dirt all over the world, we tend to think we have been the only ones effected by it.

13 05 2008
Muse

Roger,

I feel bad for light skin guys because it does seem like ignorant Black women will date them in hopes for a light skin baby or for good “hurr” LOL.

I’ve dated my fair share of light skin guys. Some of you guys go into relationships surprised that a girl likes you for you not because you can pass for white LOL. Based be your past trauma hahahah.

13 05 2008
Lindsay

I meant to add that one of these two “Creoles” was male.

13 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

LOL…there was a discussion on another message board I frequent where we were discussing the “Creole” thing. Apparently, “Creole” is more of culture (imagine THAT) than an actual racial category (you don’t SAY). Dipshits need to study before they go claiming something they know NADA about. Having a faux French name (Mama Tina, are YOU listening) does not make one Creole, Cajun, or any other culutral melange folks wanna claim. I mean, seriously, if I just WANTED to, I could claim the Creole thing based on the fact my daddy’s fam is actually of Creole cultural heritage (both sides). However, that’s just LAME…and when the yt folks see ya…you STILL Nigra LOL!

13 05 2008
the quiet negress

You really hit the nail on the head w/ this one. I am Louisiana born and raised, and I’m truly astounded by the number of negroes who go around claiming everything but their blackness, though in the northern part of the state it’s less “I’m Creole” and more “I got Indian in my family.” I want to take a minute to bastardize a quote by Paul Mooney: “Creoles ain’t nothing but niggas who can speak French.”

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Who’s Bey?

13 05 2008
urbantongue

Inbred racism…the worst kind. I get so tired of hearing that “You cute for a dark skinned girl” from black men. It never occurs to some of these empty-headed pieces of light-skin fluff that they’re claiming a culture and heritage they would probably ridicule if presented with it face to face. Being a born and bred Nigerian, I didn’t experience any of this promoting the European standard of beauty nonsense until I got here. Man, white people sure have done a swell job of brainwashing the entire fucking world.

13 05 2008
Darcia00

As ever, your entries never cease to amaze. Colorism is a problem that as many of you have noted, ironically becomes more pervasive as we get older, go into university etc.. and she/the media aren’t helping things. I personally preferred Kelly Rowland. I will admit however that Beyonce’s thighs are out of control. Even if she can’t claim any Chinese ancestry, they should definitely cast her as Chun Li in any future Street Fighter movies.

13 05 2008
Lindsay

@ urbantongue –

I get the ‘pretty for a dark-skinned girl’ thing a lot.

I’m black American. I also have been told that I can’t be just ‘regular black’ because I’m dark and [they think I’m] pretty, so I must be Caribbean.

Same deal with my hair (and it’s not even all that long). I’ve (seriously) been told that my hair is fake because “dark-skinned girls aren’t supposed to have long hair.”

13 05 2008
I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way

Zoso is a Communist.

13 05 2008
aceklub

@ ST
Please tell me that those lyrics are a joke and that there is not a song called “Creole” by Beyonce?

In terms of the word “creole”…My ancestry is Cape Verdean-American. While I was born here in the states, both of my parents were born in the Cape Verde Islands (geography lesson on the day). When telling people about the culture and language we speak, I make the comparison to a “Haitian creole” which was to signify a mix between African and French mix, our country has a African and Portuguese roots.

I think in the US there is a big issue b/c in the states, we (well, the less informed, ignorant, and/or white folks) are lazy and rather than learn about people ethnicities and embrace/appreciate, we are just quick to label someone “black”, ‘hispanic”, etc. It is always easier to just group people into one group and assume everyone is the same. So, I know that people from my ancestry, there are some who come into the states and make sure to emphasize that there are different. And there are times where I will educate folks on the true roots of my people, but here in the US, at the end of the day, I am straight up Negro, -er and that my role is help others understand that all our struggles are the same here in the US.

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

@urbantongue:

Whoa!! How old were you when you left Nigeria? I’m not questioning your personal experience, I will just have to say that that is the exception and not the norm. Africans, and specifically for the sake of this conversation, West Africans, DEFINITELY have issues with European standards of beauty and white superiority/black inferiority. We’ve already discussed the trend of “fanta face, coca cola body” on this site. And while I haven’t been to Nigeria YET, Ghana is my favorite place on the planet and I see the psychological remnants of colonialization every time I visit. Not to mention my best friend who was recently disowned by her Nigerian father when she got engaged to an American descendant of African slaves (since we are so “label averse” on this site.”

13 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

Bey=Beyonce…and yes, she really does have a song called ‘Creole”…the lyrics are nonsensical as are all her lyrics are…

13 05 2008
Lolo

Waitaminnit. Are you guys telling me that pop music doesn’t have relevance or logic at its core? Time for me to go and burn all my Mariah and MJ now.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Muse-” I feel bad for light skin guys because it does seem like ignorant Black women will date them in hopes for a light skin baby or for good “hurr” LOL. ”

And vice versa girl. WTF kinda pickup line is “What are you mixed with baby?” As if implying that I have less Negro blood in me is some sort of compliment.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

aceklub- Come on, this IS Beyonce we talking about! And you see how she slipped in the “brown bones” so nobody would get offended! EPIC FAIL.

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

This is the same girl who wrote, “I don’t think you ready for this jelly.” So really, nothing should surprise us.

Seriously Chris, it brings tears to my eyes to know that somebody out there hates Beyonce’ as much as I do.

13 05 2008
Anmarie

Ya’ll know ya’ll ain’t right. I was having a big argument in my head about not picking on Grimm again when two people already beat me to it. Terrible.

Bey and Jay are so the average ghetto love story, well exsept for the fact that Bey is someone’s middle class cousin whose parents sent her to the hood for the summer to learn humility or something.

Ever tell you about the time I was arguing with some fool who kept telling me I was mixed with something or the other. i continued to tell the fool that I’m black, when finally i just said: “Hey fool, I’m sure someone somewhere down the line experienced a rape or two but it’s not the type of thing I like to dwell on!” Damn Fools and this hyper sensitivity to mixing shit.

13 05 2008
I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way

One more thing.

I was in Cuba last month for 10 days. There they have their own racial breakdowns: white (think Fidel Castro,) black (think Faizon Love – he’s Cuban,) and mulatto. I discovered that in Cuba I’m a mulatto. I was thoroughly shocked by this because I’m a firm brown-skinned. The way I found out was when my hostess was talking to my Puerto Rican friend who was with me. Before she knew my name, she was referring to me as “El Mulatino.” She was talking so fast that I couldn’t discern it. My friend was like “you heard her calling you a mulatto, right?” I was like “what? how? why?” I mean, depending on the brand, I might very well fail the brown paper bag test.

Point being that in different disaporic cultures “black” is only the darkest of the dark. I.e., the One Drop Rule is not universal. That said, Beyonce still ain’t got no excuse.

13 05 2008
lachickforever

Well to the Cape Verdean person, in the United States you are BLACK, so don’t get it twisted.

13 05 2008
Anonymiss

Sister Toldja (16:01:14) :

Also: who wants to cry?

Beyonce “Creole” lyrics!!!!
http://www.lyricsspot.com/beyonce-creole-lyrics-1062635.html

She is a walking quadroon ball. And proud.
————————————————————
That song can’t be for real. Shit’s horrible.

13 05 2008
Muse

Sista Toldja…..I LOVE being Dark skin. It’s awesome. Nothing against my light skin counterparts but I really don’t get why us darkies low on the totem pole. My mom is in her mid fifties and passes for 30 on a bad day. In fact I hate on my mom daily LOL. Then again Black don’t crack as long as they aren’t smoking it. Bahahaha.

13 05 2008
Darcia00

OMG those lyrics. I actually did cry. I can’t accept this.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

“If I say I’m Khreyowle, then people will think I’m sophisticated! They’ll think I’m descended from French people and drink martini’s with extra extra dry vermouth while speaking a combination of French and Spanish to my friends while cruising on my superstar athlete husband’s yacht.”

NOT THE APOSTROPHE! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! *pours Visine into eyes, goes back to finish reading*

13 05 2008
Dom

@ Lindsay So True! I’m straight African American, and people INSIST that Im from the Islands or African because I’m attractive.

It’s like African Americans can’t be pretty! Maybe that’s why people feel the need to make up some bs phrase to justify their beauty. When people get it twisted, I love saying “no, I’m African American, family from Alabama and North Carolina.” That changes their perception a bit.

13 05 2008
Lindsay

I don’t get it either, Muse. *sigh*

13 05 2008
Lindsay

@ Dom –

It’s sad that it has to get to that point.

I was getting some braids put in and the shop owner asks me “where are you from?”

me: Largo [Maryland, in PG County, for those out-of-area-ers]
her: by way of…?
me: um…Virginia and North Carolina?
her: No, I mean, where are your parents from? What’s your background?
me: They’re both from Northeast Washington.
her: oh, I thought you were from Guyana or elsewhere in the Caribbean. …she goes on to gather affirmation from onlookers that I don’t “look” black American…

13 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

Bey and Jay are so the average ghetto love story, well exsept for the fact that Bey is someone’s middle class cousin whose parents sent her to the hood for the summer to learn humility or something.

OKAY…Beyonce grew up in a straight middle class area…and yet you’d never know it based on how horrible she speaks. Why she hasn’t had the COMPLETE Eliza Doolittle treatment by now amazes AND irks me. I just want her to keep her mouth unless she’s attempting to sing.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee


Yonnie3k (15:51:07) :

Oh, I’d like to add to the list of Beyonce’s attrocities, this little ditty:

“If his status ain’t hood,
I ain’t checkin’ for him,
Better be street if he lookin’ at me”

WTF!!! Yeah, way to give our young black men something to aspire to Beyonce’. Thanks.

Between this and that Fantasia song, I’m going to start my own music career. Songs include, “Can I Get a Brotha with a Job?” “You Went to an HBCU? Me Too!” and “You Drive an Escalade and Live in the Hood, That’s Why I Won’t Holla at Your Silly Ass.”

13 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

Above…should be “keep her mouth SHUT”…hit submit too quickly…

13 05 2008
Knatural

Those song lyrics really upset me. Thanks a lot.
I don’t think Grimm will ever return, not after the way you guys treated her 😛
Ace, I appreciate what you said about learning about where others come from, personally that’s something I love to do, but unfortunately in The States if you look Black, you just Black. We all have diverse backgrounds that get ignored each time we fill out a form, but that’s the culture, everyone must fit in a box, no matter how small.

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

LOL @ Merri Lee. I will buy your album. Which Fantasia song are you talking about?

13 05 2008
scarletjones

I’m buying Merri Lee’s album. can a sista get a guest spot on “You Went to an HBCU? Me Too!”?

13 05 2008
Muse

How about these hood song titles…

“I love my three baby daddies”

“My weave is tight and so his my puss”

“My blue contacts are checking you boo”

13 05 2008
Dani

I don’t understand this whole I’d rather be anything but black when that’s what you clearly are. This standard of asking if you are mixed with something being a pick up line is absurd. I had some random dude ask me if I was Spanish, after I said no, why? and looked at him confused as hell, He said, oh you just look like you could be, then I realized he was looking at me and smiling as if I’m supposed to take it from there and serve him my panties on a plate……Ummmm no it doesn’t work that way….I walked away shaking my head, he was clearly black as am I, why would you thinking I was Spanish make me pay you any more attention? was that supposed to be a compliment?

On another note I had a dude I went to grammer school with named Andre, transfer into my high school sophomore year and all of a sudden he was calling himself Andres and saying he was hispanic…..not true at all, I’ve met both of your parents they are black and so are you…..you best believe I blew up his spot every chance I could. Whatever happened to black is beautiful?

13 05 2008
scarletjones

Grimm needed to take a break from the blog and work on her personal issues…. because i was working on my New York connections to see about getting her “inpatient” if she kept talking crazy.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee
13 05 2008
Lolo

Man, you are all freaking me out. I thought that asians were the worst for hating on each other but the comments that some of you have relayed are just as bad as any I’ve heard from koreans, chinese, japanese, vietnamese, etc. when speaking to and about each other.

When I used to do business in Japan, many of them would say “ooooh, you’re so pretty you must be japanese”. I would thank them and reply that “no, actually I’m mixed korean/chinese/hawaiian/white” and after a few times of getting the “did you just fart in my FACE??” look in return I learned to just smile and say “thank you”.

My recent fave was asking a korean store owner where the nearest good chinese restaurant was and she leaned close, after checking to make sure noone could hear, and said “I don’t know, I don’t …. like the chinese so much. You know?”

13 05 2008
Anmarie

“I LOVE being Dark skin. It’s awesome. Nothing against my light skin counterparts but I really don’t get why us darkies low on the totem pole. My mom is in her mid fifties and passes for 30 on a bad day. In fact I hate on my mom daily LOL. Then again Black don’t crack as long as they aren’t smoking it. Bahahaha.”

Muse I feel you, well not all the way lol, but I hear you. My mom is dark skinned 64 freaking years old not a wrinkle on her face not one! I’m gonna wrinkle before she does, and lets not even get started on the fact that her breast are super perky. PERKY! And she’s 64 years old! (that mofo loves to brag about it too) Growing up my dad has always talked about how beautiful black women are, but especially dark skinned women. I look at other folks, no offense I’m sorry, but the puerto rican mamis have to drag that butt along the floor by 45. And white women forget about it, their face starts melting by 35. The other day i met this columbia student and we are just chatting it up and then she asks me what year i’m in. I said girl I’m about to be 30! Of course she’s shocked then makes me uncomfortable by saying: “I wish i was black”. (but whatever we know she doesn’t really wish such a thing). I don’t understand nor have I ever understood why people get all crazy about anyone other than black women.

13 05 2008
Muse

Amarie,

You are incorrect about White girls. Their faces start falling apart at 26/27. If they baked in the sun when they were younger, these broads start aging by 23. Most of my White girlfriends are already starting to get crow’s feet. The only exception is my Russian friend but she stays out of the sun and wears SPF 1000 every day LOL. Her skin is goregeous.

13 05 2008
PrettyPiscesGirl

scarletjones said

I’m buying Merri Lee’s album. can a sista get a guest spot on “You Went to an HBCU? Me Too!”?

Word…I wanna be on the super duper remix version of this!

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

I went to school in Louisiana, don’t get me started on fake Creoles and their Franglish. But, I sh!t you not, if you fill out a race check box in Louisiana, you will have there choices: Mulatto, Quadroon, Octoroon, Creole, Spanish Creole, French Creole and, of course, Cajun. The funny thing is the Spanish and French Creoles hate each other. Mind you, these people are white, it’s their names that give away their races. They also hate WASPs and WASCs (Catholics). It’s all about the order in which Louisiana was colonized, and the Catholic vs Protestant beefs. And they hate Cajuns (who are also white) because they are “from a low class breed.” All the various degrees or negrocity hate each other because of their ratings on the melanin meter. Crazy ass place.

13 05 2008
Dom

@ Lindsay
You literally just described a day in the life of me! And dont let me have cornrows or micros.

@ Merri Lee
Let’s not forget Fantastic Fantasia’s chart topper “Baby Mama.” Inexcusable.

13 05 2008
stuffgirlslike

@ Anything black- you have a tool, I am getting a tool too.

I was so dis appointed when a black french footballer had the gall to call himself creole.

I hate the country France, it is the most racist place I have been to .

I have a lot of Franco phone Africans and to tell you the truth these guys need to have a brain check. The French hate you more than us, This stuff is ridiculoius, the French llok up to you if you speak English. The more you speak French the less respect they have for you.

Many of these Francophone cats teach their children French before African languages and English. How can you have a Black African Kid living in England and not speaking African or English? Please these people hate you, they will always hate you, stop kissing up to them!

You will hear a of these Congolese, say you English to me. Brother, you cannot be English and Black. I speak English and live in England but these people will never let me be English.

That is why they bleach their faces red.

http://stuffgirlslike.wordpress.com

13 05 2008
Knatural

*shaking my head* @ Merri Lee’s last statement. What the hell is wrong with us?

13 05 2008
Ethiopian Queen

….my people are same way as well. There is the dark skinned with the kinky hair or light skinned with softer hair. As kids if you are dark some kids make fun of you. My father is super dark (blue black LOL) my mom is very light skinned and they grew up in the country side. Her parents were utterly upset and didn’t want her to marry him ONLY based on his color….needless to say love sees no color 🙂

13 05 2008
Danielle

Hilarious and spot on post. I’ve had several incidents in which I’ve been asked “where are you from”? I’m from NYC/Harlem via, N.C, VA and Africa if you must know. What’s wrong w/being an American Negro?

13 05 2008
benjie

…is it wrong that i have the Creole song on my ipod??

*waiting for the death threats*

lol

13 05 2008
Esquire

How about these ghetto song titles?

Hood Nigga
Baby Mama
911 is a joke
Thug Passion
Push it
Im a G
…oh wait those are already songs huh?

well the name of the album could be
Tha Chronic
Straight outta Compton
The Block is Hot
Thug Walkin
dayum! those are taken too…

Well at least we could name ourselves something cool like:
Ying Yang Twins
The Hot Boys
Flo-Rida
Chamillionaire

SHIT! Those are taken too!

13 05 2008
Funkyblackchick

Beyonce’s ass can barely speak english, always claiming “Creole”..let me see her conjugate a verb first in English.

13 05 2008
Esquire

Lolo

Please excuse my ignorance, there are few asians in SC. I am truly not meaning to offend you, but I know there are at least 200 people wanting to ask this after reading your post.

(Disclaimer, yes it is a scientifically proven fact that other races really have a hard time distinguishing people of another race, which is a big reason that most eyewitness testimony across colors lines is not used in court, but damn people…)

Why do Asians hate each other so much? They all look SO MUCH ALIKE? I can tell the difference between Koreans and everyone else, but past that?….

13 05 2008
I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way

Esquire,
The Japanese gave the Nazis a run for their money in terms of mayhem, mass rape, and destruction throughout Asia for the first half of the 20th century. Alot of Koreans still refuse to buy Japanese cars.

13 05 2008
aceklub

@ lachickforever
Oh no doubt, I acknowledge in the US, I am seen as a nigger and “I don’t mean that in the nice way”. However, you have to remember that people who are immigrating here from another country where they had years and years of cultural pride infused in them, to come to the US and with a snap of the fingers, all that culture is null and void, it is gonna cause backlash and take years to adjust. It is like telling someone who celebrates Carnival in Trinidad or elsewhere, “nah, you can’t celebrate that shyt” they would look at you like “nah, son. Fall back on that, b/c I am gonna “eat me goat roti, drink me rum punch and enjoy de bashment”

13 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHA@Ace. You must know too many Trinis! I think Asians hate on other Asians for the same reason Latinos hate on other Latinos – for spite.

13 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

I have to ask…why on earth would anyone care what someone as inarticulate and vacant-eyed as Beyonce thinks or says? Has anyone ever listened to her or her mother speak? It’s excruciating. You can literally see how painful it is for them to think of words and put them together coherently. I’ve always thought that’s why her interviews are always so scripted and controlled. She and her mother just strike me as halfwits…nice house, nobody home.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Esquire – It’s because your from SC. Since I’m surrounded by Chinese (who are of a zillion ethnicities), Japanese, Filipinos, Laotians, Thais, Vietnamese and Cambodians, I’m fairly good at telling them apart. i’d say 7 times out of 10 I’m right, 3 times out of 10 it’s one of the SE Asian countries.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

And another Beyonce note – is she the reason Kelly Rowland completely destroyed her once pretty face with that jacked up nose? And don’t get me started on the silicone. Oh, poor Kizzy…

13 05 2008
AroundHarlem.com

LOL @ as much as i like to LOOK at Beyonce’ (did y’all see her back in ‘98!?) i know she’s nothing but an optical illusion.

http://Blog-AroundHarlem.com

13 05 2008
stuffgirlslike

Does Beyonce claim to be creole?

http://stuffgirlslike.wordpress.com

13 05 2008
Lindsay

@ Merri Lee –

intentional?

“And another Beyonce note – is she the reason Kelly Rowland completely destroyed her once pretty face with that jacked up nose?”

If so, kudos on the wordplay. If not, kudos still.

13 05 2008
Anmarie

“I have to ask…why on earth would anyone care what someone as inarticulate and vacant-eyed as Beyonce thinks or says? Has anyone ever listened to her or her mother speak? It’s excruciating. You can literally see how painful it is for them to think of words and put them together coherently. ”

VACANT EYED!!!! That’s it! That’s the thing that’s strange!!! Vacant EYES! Gosh I’ve been plagued by this question in my mind forever. I accused myself of hating or something but it’s the disconnect from the world that’s turns me off from this girl.

Once again you guys have stopped another one of my “in my head” arguments. Oh I’ve said too much.

13 05 2008
letinstar

the first person i remember who referred to themselves as a “creole” was Sabrina LeBeauf (sondra) from the cosby show….according to wiki she is a louisiana creole…since i don’t hear that term at all in boston, that’s the basis of creole i’m going to go with…when i hear bouncey, i mean beyonce use creole to desscribe herself when i see her big black daddy in the background, i just shake my head…it’s very similar to tiger woods and the cablasian or whatever he calls himself….tiger looks very much like my brother and i KNOW i’m black, so i’m confused why these people are confused…

13 05 2008
stuffgirlslike

@ Lolo

Yes I had just read Black snob’s blog and it was good.

13 05 2008
Knatural

Kelly Rowland got a nose job? I knew she got new boobs, but a new nose, too? Why do Black people (outside of the Jacksons) get cosmestic rhinoplasty? Plastic Surgery is creepy, sorry. Is Beyonce’s shadow that cold?

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

@ Lindsay. It was an accident (I was about to ask what you meant, then I remembered that’s a DC song.)

@ Anmarie – have you ever seen Miss Tina’s fashions on HSN? (Or is it QVC?) It’s hilarious until you realize your IQ is dropping.

13 05 2008
teachthemwell

I tried to read those song lyrics, but I could not get through it with the fear that my brain would explode and ooze out of my ears and nose. Scary that pop music is so bad now that any incoherent babble can be recorded and sold as the “NEW HOT SHIT”! God, I hate pop music. These niggas have completely brought the sambo form of entertainment. IF white kids did not spend their allowance and lawn mowing money on this shit, maybe talented musicians can actually be played on the radio instead of songs like “Thuggin Luv” and “Move Them Butt Cheeks!” (little Boondocks reference)

13 05 2008
Esquire

Merri Lee,

yes, this is true. We really have mostly blacks, whites, and hispanics here in SC. I BET you cant tell the difference b/n a GA peach and a SC peach???? can you can you?…well neither can I but anyway…

Ignorantly, from the outside of asian culture looking in, it seems that if there were some sort of war, hypothetically, Japanese vs. Chinese, that there would be a lot of friendly fire. How in the hell would you be able to tell who you’re fighting?

I know I know, there are differences..but from afar…

13 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

Dag, Anmarie…wanna talk about it?

13 05 2008
Knatural

So Sabrina LaBeauf AND Lisa Bonet are Creole. Damn Cosby Show and his brainwashing! I’m writing a letter!

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Kizzy before and after. She’s actually had even more lopped off of her nose, but I don’t have time to look for a pic just now.

13 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Lisa Bonet ain’t no Creole – she’s just black and Jewish, just like Lenny Kravitz and her ace boon coon Cree Summer. Sabrina – I believe her.

13 05 2008
Knatural

I agree with you Scipio Africanus (great name by the way), but according to dumbass Wikipedia, she is Creole. Apparently, anyone of ‘mixed’ heritage is Creole.

13 05 2008
zoso

@ I Love Fruity Pebbles in a Major Way:
All your base are belong to us!

13 05 2008
Lolo

I think mainland asians have all sorts of cause and history to hate the fuck out of each other but once everyone lands here they still carry that shit too long. I mean, come on. It’s not like most anyone in america really gives two shits that my family were wiped out down to two by the japanese or that the chinese would as soon steal your land as to share some food when times are hard, etc. Leave it go when you have to deal with Mister Charlie yelling stupid shit like “thassss okay, we won the war” when my mom didn’t accept his kind offer to suck his dick. (true story and it took us about five minutes to finally figure out what war he was hollering about)

Point being, there’s so much to deal with that some of that baggage really needs checking, IMO. Now, I will roll my eyes and laugh when I hear about sad nonsense like Kimora denying her mom is korean (cuz being japanese is so much classier?)…. but it has zip to do with my life, you know?

13 05 2008
urbantongue

@ Yonnie3k

Actually, I just got my U.S. citizenship 5 years ago. I travel back and forth to Nigeria a great deal, and my experience with the Eurocentric ideal is limited because of my family’s grounding in tradition. Despite popular belief, just because the media is Eurocentric in Africa (most of the television is broadcast from Britain…and the further North you go–Saudi Arabia), doesn’t mean that everyone supports it. My family doesn’t advocate that standard of beauty, and they certainly taught me the value of my ancestry, heritage, culture, etcetera. So I came to this country instilled with nothing but pride in indigenous African culture.

It’s not just Africa that’s been brainwashed with that Eurocentric ideal (although it is the most prominent in history), though. Look at India and other former British colonies. It’s pretty much the whole damn world. But I digress, the point is, I don’t like how most black women think a blond fucking weave looks attractive, or that a slim nose, straight hair, and colt-thin legs denotes true beauty. Each continent has its own definition of beauty. Some people like the Indian look, dark hair, dark eyes, brown skin. Some people like the Chinese/Japanese motif, ivory skin, etc. I mean, it’s ridiculous to conform to one standard just because of one race’s drive to dominate the world.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Knatural (19:08:19) :

I agree with you Scipio Africanus (great name by the way), but according to dumbass Wikipedia, she is Creole. Apparently, anyone of ‘mixed’ heritage is Creole.

Not anymore!. MWAHAHAHHA!

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Wait, never mind. Her Wiki page is locked. Fucking psycho fans

13 05 2008
aceklub

@knatural

Yea, that has been the approach that I have taken. There is Haitian creole or Cape Verdean creole but it all represents a mixture of people.

Now, I do not know too much about the Louisiana Creole and the history behind their existence so can’t comment too much. However, I bug my friend (Beyonce fan) everytime that song comes on and she says “conversate”…it irks me to my soul.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

@ Knatural The latest

@SA – Cosigning on Scipio Africanus being the best blog name ever.

13 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Much like “conversate” I actually use “irregardlessly” strategically in conversation to see who will give me the gas face and who won’t. It’s like the riddles in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade – whoever picks up on the nonsense is down by law. Whoever does not gets sliced by a hidden chainsaw.

13 05 2008
puff

@ urban tongue

i’m nigerian born and bred between lagos and england, and although my family is extremely proud of our heritage and culture, there are most definitely issues concerning the privileging of “white” features over “African” ones – why else do so many men and women use bleaching creams? (so much Fela had to break it down in Yellow Fever) admittedly, Nigerians come in fewer colours than african americans i guess cos we weren’t around white/native american folks and just our black selves most of the time, so dark skin is less likely to be vilified, but colour discrimination definitely does exist back home.

13 05 2008
Knatural

thanks Merri Lee, now I want that gorgeous purple dress…and I hate dresses! If she did get a nose job, at least it looks natural. Tyra’s – not so much. AHAHAHAHAHA@Indiana Jones..somebody watched the marathon this weekend 😀

13 05 2008
Esquire

I hate tyra banks almost as much as a I hate bob johnson.

She’s equally coontastic.

13 05 2008
Shine

Which is worse, black guys thinking they’re complementing you by decreasing your blackness, or foreign guys doing the same thing. I get hit on a lot by short stocky latinos (never hot tall latin pool boy types…damnit) and the first ten minutes of the conversation is ‘are you dominicana?, You from Guyana?..” and hit up every island/nation under the Florida. I’m like no, no no damn how you say no in spanish, oh yea NO nunca, never, not Yo soy Americano, mis padres es americanos, Norte Americanos. Shutup. Then, after they run through all the countries they can think up, they get all sad and walk away. Estupido

13 05 2008
Grimm

I didnt run off. Ive been making $$$/ having European adventures…

@chris- ou plien “kouraj” dolo anana??? ou mauvvais ave mo parceque tu ne per pas Kreyol… hahahaha and BTW that isnt French for those of you who are prob rushing to correct me. And whats wrong with saying Kreyol? thats how it is in my dialect. Its not improper spelling. Are Espana or Italia incorrect???

I think the biggest reason girls have an issue with Kreyol girls (not Haitians but french/spanish/portugese/senegal/natives) IS colorism. You would be lying if you didnt admit that some girls are naturally inclined to dislike their lighter skinned counterparts because they feel that THEY are the reason why they are deemed inadequate (or whatever) by “society”; the “media”; black men in general. THEY get the guys, the attention, the whatever. No one shows us love…
Too many people blame Halle. Beyonce and Alicia for allegedly making black girls feel “unpretty”. These girls dont make India Arie or Urshers wife “ugly”, black women who look like them did by calling them that. Self hate is taught by seeing a pretty lightskinned girl, its taught by mothers who are still jealous of their light skinned cousins, passing that down to Na Na.
And no one ever admits that we have it hard too. Were “trying to be white”, “denying our blackness”, and pretty much the devil.
An attractive light girl doesnt even DO anything, but its still ok for the general public to say “he just likes her cus she look white” or “she thinks shes better”. No. YOU think shes better. Stop being jealous and making up excuses to make yourself feel better.
So what if Beyonce made a song for all of the red and yellow bones. Would it have been as outrageous if someone made a west indians stand up song? No it wouldnt.
If there has been any instance of women hating women it is displayed on this blog all the time by many of you who are quick to dismiss anyone who isnt “brown” or “thick”. Dear God dont let them be Creole…
Understand that Creole is REAL. There are REAL dialects, and it is a REAL culture. Go to the back swamps of Lake Charles, Louisiana and meet some. All he had to do was mention the “black” Kreyols and the hatred began.

13 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Shine,
Just tell them you’re a negro of the Martin Luther King variety. Shit, tell them you’re MLK’s grandchild (even the the first King grandchild was just born like last month, lol.) They should understand that and they won’t questions you, either.

13 05 2008
Dustin

OMG! Didn’t someone from yesterday say that these “caucasian standards of beauty” aren’t really pushed on us by the media and that the whole “thin and blonde” thing doesn’t matter anymore?

Chris seems to think so. And you know he’s THE authority. Harvard Law professors have begun accepting cites to SBPH as fact.

Proper blue book citation: SBPH – Chris Is Awesome And Hot: “‘Creole’ Chicks.” May 13, 2008. (See also SBPH – Chris Is Awesome And Hot: “Beyonce.” February 22, 2008.)

13 05 2008
Knatural

YAY! Grimm is back. How where your light-skinned, Creole modeling adventures in Europe? Good?

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

@Grimm: “chris- ou plien “kouraj” dolo anana??? ou mauvvais ave mo parceque tu ne per pas Kreyol…”

I swear to God if you start addressing me in Creole, then I’m gonna start talking to you exclusively in a combination of farts and Algonquin. In the end we’re gonna wind up beating the living shit out of each other…

13 05 2008
Anmarie

Oooooooh plot thickens! da da daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

13 05 2008
Lolo

Huh. I learn something new all the time, I could have sworn that Lake Charles was mostly Cajun but huh. Guess all those Cajuns I met that have seventy eleven cousins from Lake Charles were keeping secrets. Figures.

13 05 2008
Esquire

Ahhh Grimm!

I find it amusing that our last discussion with you was about how black models dont get jobs as easy, yadda yadda, the media doesn’t market to blacks, blah blah blah.

Now you go on a rampage about light skinned girls…hated on, blah blah, Im making money, European excusions, on and on and on.

Maybe sweetie, not all people dont HATE on light skinned women. No one is BLAMING Beyonce for being light. The whole point of the article was that she IS African-American, be it high yellow or black as night, but is progessively getting lighter and lighter and lighter and….

The ultimate point is that its okay to be black, its okay to be creole, its okay to be whatever. Its NOT okay to lie about it as if being plain ol’ whatever you are isnt good enough.

Once you become a little more “worldly”, you make pick up on that. Would you agree that it is easier for a lighter skinned model to find work than a plain ol brown skin model? Brown, not Alek Wek (? Whatever her name is) Its not a lightskinned girls fault, it is the media’s image and four old white men in a board rooms fault on deciding what is beautiful. They mass saturate the newstands and tv images with white and those close enough to white or go totally opposite and get a bitch from the bush of Africa. But Takya on the block dont look like neither one. No one is hating on lightskinned chicks, just pointing out the obvious.

13 05 2008
Shine

OH no I tell them. They just try to pull that, oh I must not be understanding your english or maybe I’m not saying it correctly. I’m trying to help you out by giving you an opening to say you aren’t black. Maybe you’re stupid, but you know I can’t date someone who’s a black american. Black guyanan, thats ok but not black american. And of course being that you are a black american, you know my fireplug-looking self is a come-up for you.

But that is a good line, I’m going to start saying I’m MLKJr’s granddaughter.

Damnit. Why did you guys invite Grimm back? You knew she was out there. Didn’t somebody mention something about feeding her. (sista toldja am I an ass if call her a troll b/c she purposely misconstrues everything someone writes?)

13 05 2008
Grimm

@Chris-gosh, YOU set yourself up for it. Too bad Kreyol isnt real and neither is the dialect so you prob cant translate it… Would you like me to explain what I said???

@lolo-many of the cajun ive met could pass for regular white. There are “black” Kreyols in sad, dismal, dilaphidated, swampy Lake Charles.

@knatural- I loved it! I’d never been and I abosolutely LOVED it. Im trying to get a Euro agency. I need to start making Euros and Pounds. The dollar wont even get me far in Cabo (baja cali sur MEX) next week(!!!!) and thats sad. I remember back when I felt rich–i was VERY poor– in Tijuana. Oh how i miss those days…

13 05 2008
Deesigner

I just returned from a trip to west Africa (Nigeria and Benin) a month ago and I was FLOORED by the number of women with bad blond wigs and wild weaves. I was also devastated to see the skin whitening soaps and creams proudly displayed on store shelves. This skin color/hair psychosis is all over the diaspora.

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

@Grimm: “gosh, YOU set yourself up for it. Too bad Kreyol isnt real and neither is the dialect so you prob cant translate it… Would you like me to explain what I said???”

My response to you was a joke. I know that with me it’s hard to distinguish between humor and anger, but try to keep up sweet pea 😉

13 05 2008
Knatural

Soooo…Creole is the same as Cajun? I’m confused. Explain, now.

13 05 2008
Lolo

@grimm
Wait, what? Cajuns aren’t white?? hahahahahahaha. I know, I know what you’re saying but you know it’s so silly. It’s the same damned foolishness of black africans saying that they aren’t common blacks and that koreans will just get completely sniffy if you ask them if they’re pinoy or WHATEVER. “we’re all pink on the inside” indeeeeeed. I do get a little squicked at the folks who are pink on the outside though.

13 05 2008
Muse

Grimm I think it’s so cute that you are trying to sound sophisticated when the truth is you come off as an immature child who is delusional about life.

FYI as of today $1 us dollar= 10.5 pesos…I’m sure you will be okay.

Enjoy Cabo, Mexico.

13 05 2008
anonymiss

@grimm- no one said that ‘creole’ isn’t real, just that a lot of folks who claim it aren’t…learn to read please!

and who here is hating on females with less melanin? no one! anyone who hates on others for their skin tones and those who believe their skin tone is the ish has already been called out; you’re just getting defensive because YOU’VE already been called out for being…well, LAME.

there’s always going to be ignorant ppl on both sides of the yard; i’m sure you know ppl who hate on someone because they’re light and light ppl who think they’re the ish because they’re light too – anyone who has a good amount of pigment will at some point be ‘victimized’ for their color, trust. it’s nice that you’ve thought out your argument and all, but it’s sad that it’s pointless. so for the sake of whatever…please silence yourself.

13 05 2008
Muse

Deesigner,

Skin bleaching is also a huge issue in Africa. When I was in Ghana there were tons of women with greyish color skin and I found out that they were using skin bleaching products. I made me really sad.

13 05 2008
Deesigner

Damn Grimm, if you were poor in Tijuana, you should have stayed your a** at the house. Tijuana is like the hood of all of Mexico. Glad to hear that you enjoyed Europe though.

13 05 2008
Knatural

Thanks Grimm, that was a rhetorical question (not meant to be answered). You seem to lack the ability to read between the lines, its ok.

13 05 2008
Grimm

@shine/esquire-my note wasnt about what chris said. My note was about how Creole is frowned upon by black girls who dont identify with/know about/or just want to hate on Creole. Scroll up. THATS why i said what I said, apart from the fact that I get brought up even when im not here.
Also, since were on high horses, when did it become okay to take away one persons cultural pride when there are so many ppl living their lives doing far worse? I cant even count how many “West indians” who were born and raised here refuse to admit theyre “American”-umm, isnt everyone who lives here American, or that theyre of african descent, and dont call them “African American” or “Black”. I think its far worse that people who are obviously of African descent (umm where did Jamaicans come from?) to deny it than for someone to bring up their Heritage. EVERYONE knows that Creole is an ethnic group. But some girls stay finding reasons to say “they think theyre better”.

13 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHA@Lolo. You’re my favorite senior citizen!

13 05 2008
the dj class

this blog is totally affecting my productivity. is it “affecting” or “effecting”? i never get that right.

13 05 2008
naija babe

mehn im naija too, born and bred and while i will say that nigeria as with all colonized countries has the issue of white superiority, for the greater part they dont have a colorism issue. i mean lots of ibo girls are beyond fair/yellow and you dont see only yellow ibo girls being pasted every where. you see it all and even close to the north where you have the fulanis who are prolly the nigerians girls closest to an european ideal, you dont see everyone trying to marry a fulani girl. sure there are people who bleach but shit they are only about 10 million in a country of 150 million. i mean seriously, people who have colour issues in nigeria do so because of their immediate environment and their own jacked up minds, not the country per se. i dont know where light skin or long hair ever got you anywhere in nigeria, sure acting white did but not european features (except for maybe in the north and those northerns with their polo playing are a whole nother ball game abeg)

i mean agbani darego and oluchi were dark and people complained because they were skinny and therefore didnt meet the nigerian standards of beauty

as for the lady who decided to speak for all west africans after going to ghana and say urban was the exception… that was ignorant my dear. just like urban i didnt have any colour issues till i came to the US

and for the lady talking about how francophone africans speak french, do you have a problem with anglophone africans who speak english. dont be ignorant, thats the language of their country, why should they teach their kids english and furthermore there is no language such as african and the reason those countries speak french, english portuguese whatever is because africa has sooooooooooo many languages, you cannot pick an african language as the sole official language of any country except Botswana, i mean think of all the civil wars.

13 05 2008
Muse

Grimm what kind of ignorant people do you hang out with? I thought you were too cultured to surround yourself around mentally challenged individuals. See now I’m starting to question if you really work in Europe as a model. My gut is telling me you are more of a hair model from Mississippi.

There is nothing wrong with acknowledging your cultural ties. The criticisms in this blog have to do with people denying their Blackness and the colorism issues that are prevalent in the community.

Grimm I’m going to need you to do better.

13 05 2008
Grimm

@designer- i wasnt poor in Tijuana i was poor in real life. i believe i said i felt rich when I was poor. And to whoever felt the need to tell me the currency exchange rate, i know what it is, but as anyone who goes to Cabo would know, its not like going to other places in Mex. Its like $28 for breakfast and $7 for a taxi to the next hotel. I went a few months ago for my bday and learned the hard way (cheap friends). THIS time Ill be prepared. Cabo is no Rosarito.

@Chris- i knew you were joking. So was I.

13 05 2008
mrspen

yep, i hate beyonce too.

13 05 2008
naija babe

@ designer, just because bleaching creams are proudly displayed doesnt mean everyone uses it, after all lots of american women get all sorts of implants and co.

as for the blond weaves and bad wigs, you can’t really say its because they are trying to be white, the effects of colonisation and slavery are vastly different, there weren’t enough white women for people to want to ape especially since being free there were a huge number of nigerians who thought white people were aliens. they were the ass kissing ones too obviously. i put the blonde weave thing down to watching too much MJB and bad taste. i mean seriously though for everyone you see rockign a ridiculously weave, you also see nice cornrows, braids, didi, thread etc etc

13 05 2008
Muse

For someone who is in Europe pretty often, 28 bucks for breakfast and 7 for a taxi in Cabo shouldn’t be an issue.

13 05 2008
naija babe

how is ghana = africa?
the white media done brainwashed you all.

13 05 2008
Muse

Naija, I know Ghana does not represent all of AFrica. I was making a point that skin bleaching is a growing issue in Africa along with India and some Asian countries.

13 05 2008
Knatural

Maybe Grimm was mad at $28 for breakfast because the food was tiny?

13 05 2008
Muse

Run way models don’t need to eat much anyway.

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Completely coincidental online convo with my cousin:

me: why the hell’d you talk to her like that?
Big Ol’ Coon: why the hell not?
me: dude!
Big Ol’ Coon: BITCH DROPPED MY POPEYES!
me: ….
me: are you fucking serious?
Big Ol’ Coon: CAJUN DELICOUS!
me: you weren’t dropped at a child. you were hurled down a flight of metal stairs
Big Ol’ Coon: fuck you ya beige bastard. You’d call her a bitch too if she dropped your succulent Creole skrimps
Big Ol’ Coon: you ever ate Creole cunt?
me: I fucking hate you.

13 05 2008
Cheekie

I’m just sitting here wondering what fart-ese mixed with Algonquin sounds like.

In other news, terrifc post up there, Esquire!

13 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

…not to nitpick, Grimm (you got enough problems), but I’m American, studied French 9 years and live in a Haitian neighborhood right now…and I have to say if that was Haitian Creole you wrote (which it resembled) it was barely recognizeable as such…I am by no means fluent in Haitian Creole, but even I could barely translate that. Something about Chris not having courage, or it being too bad he doesn’t speak Creole? Qu’est-ce qu’il y a? I mean, maybe if you take border Creole which can sometimes incorporate bits of Spanish…nope, not even then.

Not trying to own you or anything, but try again…and do correct me if I’m wrong…

13 05 2008
Grimm

@Muse- I got the post. I ignored his hatred for beyonce and his claim that she’s “getting whiter” and making black girls hate themselves. Like i said before, i said what i said b/c of the comments today and also b/c of past post comment sections where people– the same people still posting today made fun of Creoles, claimed they didnt exist, said they are stuck up/elitist, and even had the nerve to tell me my “frech is terrible”.
I brough up colorism and hatred b/c i honestly think people get turned off when they hear creole b/c of the way that they look i.e light skin, their hair, etc. That isnt right. We all know that there is a light skin v. dark skin thing going on between black women thats been going on forever. Am i uncultured b/c I stand up for myself? Go back and read some of the stuff ppl have said about Creoles in past unrelated post and you’ll see why im defensive.
and BTW: Im a teenager from Cali and have never been to Mississippi OR been in a hair mag. lol

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

I am sooooo mad Chris’ cousin is named “Big Ol’ Coon.” *crying*

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Grimm-

Seriously, if there is ANYONE to blame for the flack light skinned women get, the girls who think like your simple ass would be at the top of the list. So I should thank you (along with Ebony magazine, the mainstream media and rap videos) for all the darker skinned women and yellow-fever having men who have ASSumed that I was stuck up or spoiled or stupid because of the way I looked. Yes, thank you for supporting all the horrible stereotypes about light skinned, mixed, Creole, KKKreyol or whatever the fuck, mullato, octroon, etc. Black girls, Grimm.

Why don’t you take it back to the old school Creole clubs and marry your cousin so you can keep that good pure mixed blood in you, Grimm? No one else deserves to be tainted with your strain.

No one hates Beyonce for being yellow and pretty. We hate her for being stupid. Same reason I don’t like you.. I wish I had a big fancy word for it, but that’s all I got. Maybe I too, have gotten stupid. Perhaps it is contagous. You gave me the stupid, didn’t you?

Also- at least half the women on here are light complextioned, if you haven’t been reading the descriptions.

“Sad, dismal, dilapedated Lake Charles”…..are you serious? I know folks from there, and as I know it wasn’t destroyed in Katrina….what are you saying? Or is it sad because the “Black” Kreyoles are there?

(Shine-No, you aren’t wrong at all. In fact, trolls do have that ambigous brown skin with confused hair, don’t they?)

13 05 2008
Grimm

@muse- i also said that id never been to London. Do you read?

13 05 2008
naija babe

actually muse, i would argue that you can’t make that argument. if you must make a statement please limit to Ghana.
I actually don’t think the market is growing bigger for these creams at least not in Nigeria, and every single person i know makes fun of the fanta face, coke body … shit we even learn to condemn in it school … Home Economics – the ill effects of hydroquinone. i can only conclude that people who do it, do it because they are screwed up in their own mind, no one else is screwing it for them. i liken them to people who get plastic surgery and think they look good, when it is obvious they don’t and everyone else is laughing at them

as for India, its always been an issue, i don’t see it growing, i see more Westerners just becoming more aware of it. or maybe you are right, i heard a while ago they just started marketing fair and lovely to dark indian men lol

but on the real, can someone explain the skin bleachers/brighteners proudly displayed in walgreens … hell someone is buying them no?

13 05 2008
Lindsay

crying @ “BITCH DROPPED MY POPEYES!” and “beige bastard”

oh, man.

I just want to know what he said to her.

13 05 2008
Esquire

Grimm,

reading is FUNdamental, you should try reading more than just blogs and fashion mags to become more educated. Stop going to dictionary.com to find words to use on here.

I could get like you and talk about my profession all the time and truly rip your weak ass arguments to shreds. I can come up with several legal reasons why I came to the conclusion that I did as to why your first entry had no relevance nor merit.

BUT I WONT go lawyer, attorney, esquire, J.D. on you for fear that your head would explode and I will be held liable. (liable means responsible…I could go to jail for it, or get in really really really big trouble)

I will keep it simple and use double negatives so you can get it.
You dont never make no sense. Your arguments never have any continuity from one entry to the next…(continuity means flow, something that continues,something uninterrupted).

But this is America, and you can post all the entrys you want, post on. Besides I really dont care. I going to happy hour with my white friends in about 10 minutes anywhoo.

13 05 2008
puff

@ naija babe

i feel you on what you said about nigerians perhaps not having as many hang-ups about colour and such, but the fact that many women choose to wear a cracked out blonde weave over their natural hair (and as a natural-haired woman, i know what it’s like to get called out on hair all the damn time) suggests that there is some self-hatred mentality in our culture whether we like it or not. just like not all african-americans are obsessed with light-skin, not all nigerians, and in particular women, are rushing to embrace their african queendom.

13 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Matter of fact, Nas won. Kelis is way flyer than Beyonce and her Puerto Rican/Chinese side probably provides awesome fodder for conversation. Plus she speaks as though she gave a rat’s ass and actually paid attention in school.

13 05 2008
Ethel

@ Sister: “She is a walking quadroon ball. And proud.”
THANK YOU for that. Brightened my day considerably.

And to the question: the difference between Creole and Cajun, per a view at Wikipedia:

Creole seems to be referring to people of any race or mixture thereof who are descended from settlers in colonial French Louisiana before it became part of the United States in 1803 with the Louisiana Purchase. Some writers from other parts of the country have mistakenly assumed the term to refer only to people of mixed racial descent, but this is not the traditional Louisiana usage. It is now accepted that Creoles form a broad cultural group of people of all races who share a French or Spanish background. Louisianans who identify themselves as “Creole” are most commonly from historically Francophone communities with some ancestors who came to Louisiana either directly from France or via the French colonies in the Caribbean. (Those descended from the Acadians of French Canada usually identify as Cajuns, rather than Creoles.) The term is also often used to mean simply “pertaining to New Orleans”. The general perception of a Creole is usually of an olive toned individual. Louisiana’s Creole People (Creoles of Color) are of mixed (mainly) French, Spanish, African-American, and Native American heritage[1]

13 05 2008
J.dot

The blog is so on point. I’m from the 7th Ward in New Orleans. Gentilly to be exact and there were nothin but “creoles” who knew very little about their ancestry. the probably couldn’t name not one great aunt or great grandparent except proclaim that they must have been spanish or indian. It’s deep rooted color-based elitism and needs to stop. I got them in my own family and I’m chocolate as I can be. As for all the fake creoles they disgust me too. I always rant about them to anyone not from new orleans. good job people.

13 05 2008
Esquire

@Sister

Here are some words for stupid that I like to use:
Stupefied
confounded
hebetudinous (SAT word, Grimm…have you taken that test?)
thick headed
dim witted

13 05 2008
Grimm

@ Fruity- What is what?? Was that Haitian?? What i said wasnt in haitian. Its the dialect of Kreyol my parents, from Louisiana, speak and taught to my siblings and I. So its one of the many Louisiana Kreyol dialects. Maybe you can’t understand it b/c its more spoken than it is written (which is why its dying out) and b/c its diff than haitian Creole. i dont know how diff though b/c i dont speak that or know very many Haitians. Its also diff from Cape Verdian Creole.

13 05 2008
Muse

Grimm:@muse- i also said that id never been to London. Do you read?

Grimm If you haven’t been to London, it doesn’t mean you have not visited Europe. Am I wrong? was under the assumption that you do model in Europe…Did I misunderstand you? I

Naija-We can agree to disagree. There is a growing problem in several parts of Africa where women are using skin bleaching producst. I’ll be more than happy to link you to various reliable news resources if you question my statement. Maybe the problem doesn’t exist in Nigeria but it does in other places.

13 05 2008
anonymiss

@ST- i heart you!!!!

13 05 2008
naija babe

puff
i respect where you’re coming from and im not gonna deny that we don’t have some self hatred issues, but i think those coming from appearance unlike here in the US are very very minimal. i dont know if you took nigerian history vs american history which i have, but like i always like to say the same result can have many causes and it is my firm belief that black women in the US rock a blond weave for different reasons than nigerian women. i think nigerian women rock that blond weave hot mess because they think it looks good, not because they are trying to be white, i say this because our media is fairly balanced, white looks in the media are never portrayed as key, black people are the majority not the minority and we all sorts of representations of beauty in nigeria together with the white/european one and lastly nigerians are not conscious of skin colour the way americans are. shoot i watched gone with the wind and identified with scarlett because of who she was and not because she white or anything, so i guess im saying these naija women see the blonde weave on lets say gisele or l.lohan and think shid id look cute in that, just as they see the halle berry cut which we call anita baker and think shid id look cute in that too. the unfortunate thing is they dont.

im just saying we do the same things for different reasons

13 05 2008
the quiet negress

I’m just a lurker but I am just about sick of this Tragic Mulatto mess.

13 05 2008
Dom

Grimm: “and BTW: Im a teenager from Cali and have never been to Mississippi OR been in a hair mag. lol”

Really? A teenager? That makes sense. I can’t even rag on you now. So much learning and living to do.

13 05 2008
naija babe

Muse
please link me to these articles, i do hope they show numbers over a reasonable time period, not that whitey decided to go to africa one day be and like oh my word, they are bleaching their skin!

13 05 2008
naija babe

just like not all african-americans are obsessed with light-skin, not all nigerians, and in particular women, are rushing to embrace their african queendom.

very true, but see i don’t see african women seeing themselves are queens, they just see themselves are regular people most of the time, maybe because they rarely have to be in opposition to the white guys. not that they aren’t queens … give me a head turning gele any day any time

13 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

No, that was “proper” French, Grimm. Creole dialects are basically a phonetic French-derived patois. In my experience Creole-speakers throughout the diaspora can usually speak and understand each other for the most part, regional differences notwithstanding. Most Creole-speakers also have at least basic knowledge of French as well (it only stands to reason, right?) Except you…hmm…

13 05 2008
Knatural

ST, is Grimm old enough to take the SAT?

13 05 2008
Scipio Africanus

Fruity Pebbs,
My undertsanding fo Haitian Creole and Haitians in general is that most of the non-educated folks there can’t really understand French, basically at all. That’s just one Kreyol language, but the idea is that the pronunciations and syntax are pretty far off between the mother-tongue and teh creole.

13 05 2008
13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Knat- Old enough in years or in terms of mental development? I took the SATs in 6th grade for a contest, but I don’t think Grimm at 19 is ready for a test where she can’t answer with pictures of smiley faces and kittens.

13 05 2008
Grimm

@Sista and esquire- I dont care what you say about me. Since you know so much about me, continue to feed you egos with your dilusions about me. Whoop dee, your a lawyer. As i said before, it isnt right to assume youre better than someone else b/c you have a degree or are a professional. You may not be as happy as your secretary or that busdriver is. A JD doesnt make you smarter, richer, or a bigger asset to society. In your efforts to look “good” you looked like a jerk.

@Muse-oh. no, I said i’d never been before so I especially loved it. (meaning ive gone now) I also said I went there to find a Euro agency (yay!) so i could make pounds/Euros b/c of the decline of the dollar. Thats when i got into how even parts of MEX make you feel poor when we once felt so rich… SMH

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Make it stop…someone pleeease make it stooooop…

13 05 2008
naija babe

um why are you guys so mean to grimm lol
abeg babes i want to be a model too, help me out ojare.

13 05 2008
Muse

Grimm how can you love Europe and you’ve never stepped foot on there? That’s like me saying they love to get fucked in the ass when they’ve never tried it before….

Naija, Drop me an email because for some reason Chris blog won’t let me post the multiple links.

kia.richards@gmail.com

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

As I know it, Hatian Creole/Kreyol is a polyglot language consisting of bastardized French, Portuguese, Spanish, and the pre-colonialism language of what later became Hati.

See, we are not against Creole, we are against faux-Creoles and real Creoles who think being of mixed blood gives them their cunting licence.

13 05 2008
Grimm

@fruity- Oh? Maybe you dont either since you asked me “what is…”. Where is the rest of the sentance? Are you going to try to act like youre better than me too? Im glad you know basic French and didnt know we spoke a different Kreyol, but what do you expect me to say when you say “what is” and talk about how you are familiar with haitian?

13 05 2008
Muse

Um that came out wrong..Disregard my last comment. I shouldn’t be so grimey anyway…

Bascially Grimm, how can you love Europe when you’ve never been there before…

13 05 2008
Grimm

Muse- didnt i say i just got back? Dear lord. As in I went there, as in thats where ive been the last few weeks? Geez…

13 05 2008
Muse

So going back to my first statement, I never said that you were in London. I said that you shouldn’t have a problem in Mexico since you’ve been to Europe which is comparably more expensive…

Ding ding ding!

13 05 2008
naija babe

muse
sent you an email
hopefully it doesnt end up in spam
look for a bezerkeley address lolz

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

I hope this blog is followed by fake tanned white people who look like radioactive Cheetos.

13 05 2008
Angry v3.2b

Hopefully this will put this whole Beyonce-hatred to rest:

“Knowles was born in Houston, Texas to Mathew Knowles, a successful African American record manager and Tina Beyincé, an American costume designer and hair stylist of Louisiana Creole descent. Knowles was baptized after her mother’s maiden name, as a tribute to her mother and to prevent the name from becoming obsolete, since only a few of the Beyincé males carry the name.[1][2] Her maternal grandparents, Lumis Albert Beyincé and Agnéz Deréon, were French-speaking Louisiana Creoles.[2]”

So she actually is part Creole. Imagine that.

Beyonce’s Personal Life

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

OMG, can’t you see some slimy Euro trash “talent agent” bouncing Grimm on his knee and explaining the difference between the Euro and the dollar? And saying “I’m gonna make you a starrrrrr” in his Sesame Street Count voice?

You were born 100 years too late, Grimmy. You’d have loved the quadroon balls. You and Beyonce would have been freaking fabulous. “Oh, Mistah White Man suhhhh, you know I’s oooooonly 1/16 Blaaaaack”.

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

@ naija babe:

I’m the ignorant one that “went to Ghana and decided to speak for all West Africans…” Sorry to ruffle your feathers so. My attempt was not to speak for all West Africans, but to give my account as an observer of various cultures who 1) has spent a considerable amount of time in Ghana doing just that, and 2) has several America-born friends of Nigerian parents. In addition, my comment wasn’t so much about colorism (if that’s even a word – we’re using it like it is). It was more about the notion of white superiority/black inferiority being very prevalent in both of those cultures. It just so happens that that notion is what contributes to the skin color/good hair bad hair that African-Americans have.

13 05 2008
iheartpopeyes

Big Ol’ Coon: fuck you ya beige bastard. You’d call her a bitch too if she dropped your succulent Creole skrimps

lmao! i think this discussion would be a lot more fun and productive if your cousin would start posting comments chris…that’s how you make it stop.

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“So she actually is part Creole. Imagine that.”

I can’t speak for anyone else, but I never said that Beyonce wasn’t actually Creole.

But perhaps you weren’t addressing me.

And yes, I still hate her as much as ever.

13 05 2008
maya

Grimm what kind of ignorant people do you hang out with? I thought you were too cultured to surround yourself around mentally challenged individuals. See now I’m starting to question if you really work in Europe as a model. My gut is telling me you are more of a hair model from Mississippi.

I am on the floor laughing.

13 05 2008
BigSexy

I’m so glad you know that “conversate” is not a word. Thank Jesus.

13 05 2008
naija babe

okay ms yonnie, i hear ya.
american born kids of nigerians are american IMHO and are often misinformed by what they hear from their biased parents lol, so they don’t count for too much (unless they go back to naija regularly or did HS over there) so only number 1 holds any water for me, and Ghana was colonized by the Brits, so their experience would be quite different from other west african colonized by the french, belgiens, portugese and/or arab influences who used different methods of colonization. for instance, the french used the method of assimilation, quite different from Britains puppet type thing. since most of west african is not anglophone, i would suggest you travel more

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Why are you mad Chris? She’s great for our youth 😉

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

@naija babe:

american born kids of nigerians…are often misinformed by what they hear from their biased parents

please explain what you mean by their parent’s bias.

13 05 2008
naija babe

okay ms.yonnie, i just talked out of my ass. i agree wholeheartedly with the later part of your post, its just that being african, i get very tired when people try to lump the african people struggles with that of african americans and make like what ails you ails us too, that is only very superficially true.

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

LOL, naija babe. While our differences are more pronounced, there are commonalities in the effects of slavery and the effects of colonialization. Face it. They fu@ked us all!!

13 05 2008
naija babe

ms. yonnie

nigeria has a storied history, and in my experience a lot these ‘biased’ parents left nigeria a long time ago … long enough for them to have kids that you’re friends with … they left because they couldnt find opportunities or the regime was oppressive and this is true, but they also left with bitter memories of the war, the times etc etc. a lot of these folks if they go home, dont take their kids with them and as such tell their kids stories of how life was hard, they fetched water from the well, they didnt have shoes, the war killed their family members etc etc. not that these stories arent true, but they are just one view. coupled with western representation of the country, i find these American born kids of nigerian parents have a skewed view of what the country is like, or their view is one which is stagnant and does not take into account the many changes the country has gone through since their parents left.

my experience of nigeria is vastly different from this, which is why i probably still live there. shoot if i had kids and decided to tell them my own side of things, they’d think nigeria was like america or even better … i mean seriously i had free health care and unlike many nigerians i never had to suffer constant power outages… but my view is very biased and i realise that and make sure anyone who wants to know about nigeria knows that.

its the same with any country i guess.

13 05 2008
naija babe

yes ms. yonnie, they fucked us all… but in very different ways and so our needs are different and the solutions to our problems are different. that there are commonalities does not mean that diasporic africans and continental africans need one solution.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Look at all the bitter ass haters. Grimm is right,all of you angry black hoes are mad because you want to be Creole but you can’t. I’m a proud Creole woman with beautiful green eyes and light brown hair. All the men love me and I have no shame for the way I look. Wealthy men are always trying to court me. While you bitter average whores have to open your legs to get some attention.

Sista Toldja, I saw your picture in another thread and you look like a cheap hoe and are not light skin. Too bad for you.

Muse you are a bully and are an ugly black bitch hating on Grimm. You look like aunt jemima. Nappy headed foul mouth hooker

Chris you would be thirsty for me but I wouldn’t date you because you probably have bad genes and you are losing your hair.

The rest of you are some wannabes. While I’m on my yacht you losers can spend all day on the net.

Grimm don’t let these ugly hoes tear you down baby girl. Do you and make us Creoles proud!

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

200 posts and it hasn’t veered into sexual territory? Is this a good thing or a bad thing? And where the hell is Shabooty?

13 05 2008
lisaturtle

I don’t know how I feel about this post. As an actual Creole person (sorta) who just considers herself black… I’m very proud of my ancestry and from both of my parents (my mom being the creole one) and my Lousiananess and such and I have the annoying lite brites in my family who think they’re the best thing ever for being light skindid and Creole…

IDK, I know you didn’t mean it that way but it kind of seemed like you damned the whole Creole existence. Again, what about the Haitians?

13 05 2008
puff

@ naija babe

i agree with you that the lumping together of african/african-american struggles is something that is very frustrating and done mainly because people are too lazy to overcome their ignorance and understand the differences. but when it comes to the hair thing – nigerians do feel the same way. yes, the effects of colonialism are different to those of slavery, but our standards of beauty have been affected whether you like it or not. as i mentioned before, the fact that some nigerian women would rather rock a weave rather than their natural hair is not just an apeing of african-american culture a la mary j and beyonce (although who would wants that trick’s horse mane is still beyond me), but a subconscious manifestation of an inferiority complex in comparison to white people that began with colonialism and has deepened in the post-colonial period. i don’t need to take a history class (although i have) on nigerian vs african-american history to see the parallels, and i think that the less we divide, the sooner we will be able to conquer these problems as people of the African continent (if you see the term black as too blanketing).

13 05 2008

Jesus be an albuterol inhaler!

Grimm…sweetheart…pookie…babygirl…please stop typing, you are giving me a headache. What you post makes no sense.

You are a stuck up cunt, who has no IDEA what she is talking about.

13 05 2008
puff

p.s.

@ creole beauty

please tell me you’re joking. you know the closest your ass has come to a yacht is one of them wooden row boats in the bayous…

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Ne is another desperate woman who is riding Chris’ jock strap.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Lisa, I think your comment kind of sums up what most of us have been saying. (RE: Yes, Creoles exist. No, they aren’t superior to anyone else. No, not all lightskinned people are Creole)

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Puff my family is wealthy. We own hundreds of tobacco farms.

13 05 2008
naija babe

lol trick’s horse mane?
puff you have killed me!

i agree with you in theory, but disagree on the extent of the self hate with regards to manifestions of physical beauty may be it’s because I never saw it till i left nigeria but let’s agree to disagree

hmm maybe i do take that back, after i went natural … the comments i began to receive on my hair were astonishing, i guess perhaps the self hate is so deep and hidden and passed on from generation to generation that we’ve accepted it and forgotten its there, and because everyone does the same, it seems like it becomes the nigerian thing to just have a bad weave lol. i feel you girl.

what nigerian history class did you take, im curious

13 05 2008
Yonnie3k

Amen Puff

13 05 2008
naija babe

i guess it became a ‘ i dont hate my hair, i just don’t like it in its natural state, but i don’t know why’ thing

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Nigerians are very unattractive. They have nothing on Creoles. Why do Nigerians steal and beat their women?

13 05 2008
naija babe

lol creole beauty thanks for compliments. but who was talking about nigerians and their attractiveness or lack of it?

13 05 2008
brran1

Booking a job rubbing lotion on your hands in front of a camera does not mean you can call yourself a model. It just means you have dry ass hands.

@ lisaturtle: What was your question about Haitians (My dad’s Haitian by the way…)

13 05 2008
puff

Creole Beauty (22:15:15) :

Puff my family is wealthy. We own hundreds of tobacco farms.

k fine – a STEAM BOAT then, happy?

13 05 2008
Knatural

Creole Beauty = Uncle Ruckus

13 05 2008
brran1

That was supposed to be ) not 😉

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

I think Creole Beauty is one of the following

1) Either Somali And/Or Ethiopian Queen,

2) A 45-year-old White man who masturbates to pics of Halle Berry

3) a 500-pound-dark skinned woman who lives in Marcy Projects and is on some Pecola from “The Bluest Eye” shit wishing that she were Creole so Jay-Z coulda picked her. (In which case I will add “You mad cause I’m light and you not! Ha! I’m Creole bitch!”)

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Appears that I shut the house down. Puff don’t hate. I can hook you up with a good job to feed yout multiple bastard kids

13 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

@ Grimm: What I asked WAS a complete question, meant “What is that?” and referred to whatever it was you were trying to convey through your Creole (which was what, again?). It’s a simple French/Creole 101 phrase used all over the French/Creole speaking world up to and including Louisiana, and your lack of recognition basically told me all I needed to know. Wow, touchy when someone calls bullshit, eh? As you were…

@ Scipio Africanus: I thought the same thing until I addressed my neighbors in French, and discovered we understood each other well enough. And if I sound them out, I can read signs written in Haitian Creole, as can a Parisian friend (I like to equate it with the way most standard English speakers could probably understand some Jamaican patois if they listened closely enough). But you are right, French is much more common among those who are more educated. Semi-related: In Belize, what they call Kreyol (their spelling) is basically an English patois, and the people they refer to as Kreyol are a mix of pretty much everyone who lives there (Mayan, black, white, Chinese).

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Sista Toldja you probably live in the projects. I’m very attractive and don’t listen to trash like Jay Z. Why are you boo? No black men are giving you love?We all know that you’re a lesbian.

13 05 2008

Look at all the bitter ass haters. Grimm is right,all of you angry black hoes are mad because you want to be Creole but you can’t. I’m a proud Creole woman with beautiful green eyes and light brown hair. All the men love me and I have no shame for the way I look. Wealthy men are always trying to court me. While you bitter average whores have to open your legs to get some attention.

—————————————————

My grandmother is a native american/french woman who married a black man and created my mother who married another afican american man, who then created me. Never have claimed to be anything other than BLACK and proud!

I do not have green eyes (infact my eyes are so dark they look black) My hair is not brown or wavy. Yet I probably get as much action as you do, Yet I am still beautiful. Wealthy men don’t just look to date “light skin, green eyed brown haired women”. I have been approached by many cardiologist, surgeons, and professional athletes and can date man I want. PLEASE TRUST THAT.

Please shut that “angry black hoes” shit right up. That’s the attitude this post was really about. The ignorance of mixed european blood, has you dumb cunts delusional. Get over yourselves, don’t only be proud of your physical attributes, but be proud of getting a FUCKING EDUCATION.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee


puff (22:10:54) :

p.s.

@ creole beauty

please tell me you’re joking. you know the closest your ass has come to a yacht is one of them wooden row boats in the bayous…

No, she’s on a yacht.

BTW Puff, when I was in another blog, Ivanka Trump started beef with me. Last week I has a serious flame was with Jamie Johnson ( heir of Johnson & Johnson). CQ will hand your ass to you. It’s real out here in these streets.

13 05 2008
lisaturtle

My questions about haitians is that I know some of them or a lot of them speak creole so I guess having ties to creoleness? Idk… It’s nothing I ever researched. I only know about creole in terms of my own family and a lot of people in Louisiana. I definitely don’t claim to be the authority and I am in no way Haitian. I seen a lot of cute Haitians though.

13 05 2008
Muse

Aunt Jemima has some good pancakes. Yum. In fact I want some now.

We can make some chicken and waffles.

Yes Sir!

13 05 2008

**can date any balck man I want

13 05 2008

OMG

** any man

13 05 2008
puff

aaw why thankee suh much miss creole beauty, i ghuess if my edjucation and talent don’t work out in mah favour i cahn always come work fuh you and the massa on the plahntation – or mahbye in the house of de-ree-on fahctory miss beyonce and her pretty lil creole mama got set up in yo backyard…

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Sister Toldja (22:24:46) :

I think Creole Beauty is one of the following

1) Either Somali And/Or Ethiopian Queen,

2) A 45-year-old White man who masturbates to pics of Halle Berry

3) a 500-pound-dark skinned woman who lives in Marcy Projects and is on some Pecola from “The Bluest Eye” shit wishing that she were Creole so Jay-Z coulda picked her. (In which case I will add “You mad cause I’m light and you not! Ha! I’m Creole bitch!” 😉

@#3 – Where is my inhaler? No she didn’t…

13 05 2008
Knatural

mmm, I always thought true beauty shone from within. So if that’s the case, the two Proud-To-Be-Light-Skinned-and-Creole broads here spewing all this unprovoked hate are not very beautiful at all. And all Creole aren’t fair skinned. Then again, Creole Beauty can’t be serious. I refuse to believe it.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Muse accept your role in the kitchen. Stay out the sun too. Before you or anyone else says anything trust that I look better than all you hoes.

13 05 2008
puff

@ naija babe

omo i feel you oh! s’all love. it was a west african history class, but my prof. focused mainly on nigeria, ghana and senegal from b.c. times up to the present. my PWI doesn’t love us nigerians as much as Creole Beauty does so we don’t get an entire class dedicated to us.

13 05 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Merri Lee- I am dead ass. Suspect the same thing about Grimm as well. Probably got “revitiligo” and everything. Long blonde yaki, gold contacts and skin the color of tar. I also believe the only tobacco money Creole Beauty has seen is the change she gets back when she buys a pack of Newports.

Creole Beauty- No, of course Black men give me love. I’m light skinned. Duh. Isn’t that the measure of a woman in your eyes?

13 05 2008

FUN FACT:

Men cheat on women and “creole” women are not exempt!

JESUS PLEASE BE A REALITY CHECK!

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Black men love light skin women. Dark skin Black women do have a reason to be angry because no one wantsd the. Blame Ham.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

^^^^^^^oops. flame WAR.

13 05 2008
puff

@ merri lee

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

wait, you WERE joking right?

13 05 2008
brran1

@ lisaturtle: Well. Everyone on my dad’s side (excluding my siblings, some of my cousins and I) speaks Kreyòl Ayisyen (Haitian Creole) fluently in addition to French and Spanish. It’s called Creole because it’s a mixture of 18th Century French, Spanish, Portuguese, a couple of West African Languages, some Taino/Arawak and believe it or not, English. The language itself is called Creole, but Haitian people are just referred to as Haitians.

If you think about it, everyone of Caribbean decent is Creole. Were all mixed with something be it African, French, Spanish, Pigmy, or whatever.

13 05 2008
brran1

@ Creole Beauty: You know what’s funny? You claim to be beautiful, but yet the avatar next to your name is as blank as Paris Hilton’s last IQ Test.

Spare us all and go jump off a Highway Overpass.

13 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA@Blame Ham. She brought up the Old Testament. This is hilarious!

13 05 2008
brran1

omit the ‘but’ from that last comment.

13 05 2008
Lolo

@Knatural
Thank you but this old woman prefers Old Lady, or Oldie or Wizened Troll or um, something not so politically correct.

I read some piece in the NYT about how 60 is the new “middle aged” and just about redlined. I hate getting old but given the alternative available, I’ll make do.

13 05 2008
Muse

Brran, you are right. I have a few cousins in Martinique and Jamaica who also claim Creole…I suppose based on the definition of what Creole is their claim is true. However I think since everyone is claiming Creole these days it’s hard to distinguish between people who are legit and people who are trying to hide their true heritage.

13 05 2008
puff

crepe-y creole, lawd have mercy on you for bringing up that tired ass “black men love light-skin women” line and THEN bringing in some biblical shit to justify it. but cos i’m nice and you’ve run out of insults, i’m not even gonna get mad at that.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Brran I don’t need to prove my beauty. Society confirms my belief every day. Don’t hate.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

@ ST – I’m not mad at Grimm, if her teenaged model story is true. They get thrown out into the “real world” too young with no guidance and have a false sense of their own maturity. Plus they’re globe trotting with no family with them. That’s why so many get sucked into the drugging underworld. Grimm doesn’t need a tongue lashing, she needs a hug.

But CQ? Sweet Jesus.

@ puff – you think I don’t e-kickit with my big money homies? And that the CQ pic I posted was fake? I keep it real in this blog 😀

13 05 2008
Muse

Puff did this broad really bring up Ham? I guess I’m just fucked then.

I’ll take my ugly darkie self and hide in a cave until Jesus comes back.

Anyone want some pancakes before I leave the kitchen to go play in he sun?

13 05 2008
brran1

@ Muse: I understand what you’re saying. That’s part of the reason why I don’t bring up being Haitian. What’s the point? To a 25-20, i’m just another nigger. Don’t get me wrong though, I have pride in being multi-racial, but you won’t see me advertising it. Doing that would make me look like a self righteous fucktwat.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Thank you Muse, for making me choke on my tea.

13 05 2008
brran1

Hate on what? A Blank Ass Avatar? Fuck Outta Here…

13 05 2008
Knatural

Sorry Lolo, I thought being politically incorrect was most offensive. I have failed you. 😦

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Dark skin women aren’t shit (unless you are talking about their skin color)

See I can make jokes.

13 05 2008
Knatural

politically correct*
My IQ has dropped since Creole Booty started ranting!

13 05 2008
Lauren

Skin is skin negroes!!!! Skin is Skin!!!!

13 05 2008
puff

@ Muse

hahahahahaha i know right? i hope father Abraham forgives me on the day of judgement and leads me into the promised tobacco fields…

13 05 2008
Muse

Wait this broad said she owns tobacco farms? Where the fuck was I? I need to scan these post. I wanna laugh too guys!

13 05 2008

I agree with merri lee, not only has she been thrown to the wolves but that tough exterior is all she has to hold on to. I think she brags about her beauty because that’s all she “thinks” she has to offer.

The poor girl isn’t even old enough to buy alcohol, but yet she has the responsibility to take care of her GROWN mother and younger sister.

She needs a hug and for someone to tell her there is more to life than beauty.

13 05 2008
brran1

@ Creole Beauty: *straight face* That joke was as funny as Pauly Shore’s last movie. I’d take a woman that looks like Muse anyday over some idiot that thinks their beautiful because Jethro the Town Oyster Shucker said so.

13 05 2008
Lolo

Okay. Once again, this place has left me dead. BTW I do have a cunting license but I just never knew what it was called before today.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Not true Lauren. All this Watermelanin is what makes all these dark negresses so unattractive. And none of these field negroes did their jobs and closed the damn gate. Just left it wiiiiiiiiiiide open. Where’s my whip?

13 05 2008
Dustin

Hannah Montana is creole.

13 05 2008
Dom

Between leaving work and arriving home, this post has descended to madness. Grimm, stop posting as Creole Beauty.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Puff and Muse confirmed that they are undesirable dark women. I recommend that both of you invest in sun block so you don’t hurt my precious green eyes with your darkness.

Muse did anyone ever tell you that you and Curious George look alike?

13 05 2008

french fried creole beauty: “Dark skin women aren’t shit (unless you are talking about their skin color)”

See I can make jokes.

OMG YOU ARE PATHETIC. Please go play with the massa( your father’s) shot gun

13 05 2008

lmaoo @ Puff and Muse being the moral fucking majority!

I wouldn’t date anything named puff or mase. You, grimm, are getting worse.

13 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH@Dustin! Ass!
Am I the only one getting hungry; yall keep saying Creole, and Cajun, and Haitian and all I can think about is food. Damn you inner fat-girl!!

13 05 2008
Muse

Creole Beauty…Damn girl how you know my family genealogy?! I get my eyes and dark skin from my papa King Kong.

Curious George is actually my younger half brother. Daddy slept around.

13 05 2008

good one muse lol!

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

LOL @ Dustin, because Billy Ray does claim to be 1/billionth Cherokee. Or something.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Speaking of HM, did anyone think this through?

13 05 2008
puff

@ ne – i got love for sisters who love sisters, but i’m personally into men so i wouldn’t want to date you either, cheers.

13 05 2008
Knatural

hahahah Merri Lee, she just finished snowballing

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Crap, now I have Billy Ocean stuck in my head. ♫ Caribbean Queen♫

13 05 2008
brran1

No more love on the run, huh Merri Lee?

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

The things that get posted during my afternoon commute are positively hysterical.

Creole Beauty, I’m flattered that you came all the way up here from the seventh circle of Hell just to visit lil’ ol’ me. To be fair, though, I’m going to have to assume you look like a giant uterus with feet and a mouth until you demonstrate otherwise.

Don’t worry, I’m not singling you out; this is how I assume all women look until either a.) i see them in person or in a verified photograph, or b.) they prove they aren’t clinically insane. Since b is clearly out of the question in your case, let’s go with a – if you have the balls, which I’m sure you do not.

My guesses as to your response:

1.) “I don’t have to prove I’m pretty” (battle cry of hideons around the world)
2.) You will Google the image of some obscure mixed-race model and passes it off as yourself
3.) You will choke on a chicken bone, fall off your yacht’s fly bridge, and drown. Your family will not intervene.

In the unlikely event that you actually display a real photo and you do indeed turn out to be attractive, then all I can offer is this piece of disturbing advice:

You should try to be more like Grimm.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

This blog is going to be the end of me. After i read Chris’ post, I actually screech with laughter and had to pretend I hurt myself. Remind me, it’s the left leg I’m going to limp on tomorrow.

13 05 2008

please excuse anything I typed about puff and muse. I read creoles post wrong. for some strange reason I thought that creole said “puff and mase says dark women aren’t desireable” OMG I CAUGHT THE STUPID!

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Chris you would be all over me.Don’t be too disappointed when I reject you.

Ne you are a retard. Stop making excuses.

13 05 2008

I am so sorry rain man Creole beauty

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Ne, I just saw your myspace page and you look like a hot mess.What is wrong with your face? Why do you have saggy breasts? Go work out.

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“Chris you would be all over me.Don’t be too disappointed when I reject you.”

That definitely falls under 1.) “I don’t have to prove I’m pretty” (battle cry of hideons around the world).

Admiral, you owe me $20.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Chris – The Divine Comedy was one of my favorite books in my Classics class. (why? well, that’s a long story) The 7th circle of Hell is for the violent. The first terrace of Purgatory is for the vain.

13 05 2008
Merri Lee

Now I’m SERIOUSLY missing Shabooty. And Mrs. Epps.

13 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHA, so Creole Booty is a giant uterus! All squishy and veiny and bald. Its funny they’ve have never offered a picture of their superior Creole/Cajun beautifulness when the ‘ugly’ Darkies have.

13 05 2008
Lolo

Chris, Creole Beauty must be gaaaaaawgeous. She’s a) Creole! and b) it says so right in her screen name. Duh.

13 05 2008
Knatural

they’ve have? My IQ has dropped to 115. I need to eat.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Here is my picture Chris. Everyone, hate away!!!!

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4163/prettygrl2ci.jpg”

Error 404 Not Found…

You’re an Amber Alert?

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Here is my picture Chris. Everyone, hate away!!!!

There is the working link

13 05 2008
Merri Lee
13 05 2008
Merri Lee

That’s Sanaa Lathan!

13 05 2008
puff

ah yes creole beauty, the symmetry of the 404 in that message is a clear testament to your light-skinned magnificence…

trick at least copy-and-paste from a site that works. GODDAMN.

13 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Look at everyone dying to view my beauty! I’m use to people getting excited to see me.

13 05 2008
Knatural

Creole Booty attends Hillary Clinton’s School for the Delusional.

13 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Ah, there it is.

You’re not a bad looking girl, but I’m severely disappointed. Girls with as much attitude as you are usually more attractive than my ex-girlfriends.

Oh well.

13 05 2008
maya

I am now crying. And this post has affirmed that I do, indeed, want to have Chris’ babies, self-proclaimed small peen and all. And hey, it’s like a two-fer, ’cause I can have “pretty babies” with “good hair” like Grimm & “Creole Beauty”‘s given his light-skinndedness and green eyes.

13 05 2008
brran1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Creole Beauty are you sniffing glue or doing peyote or something? You’re attractive, sure. But it was nowhere NEAR as serious as you made it out to be. Had a nigga thinkin you were Nia Long or some shit…

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Knatural is a hater. Go press those naps so you can think straight.

Here is another photo for you to hate on

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8906/sui4wx2.jgp

14 05 2008
brran1

@ Chris: I’m starting to suspect fraudulent pics. What say you?

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

I look better than Nia Long and those aren’t even my good pictures.

14 05 2008
Muse

Some poor girl on myspace is missing her pictures LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

14 05 2008
Knatural

I’m a hater? Right. Creole, that picture is cute (if it’s really you) but your attitude is shit.

14 05 2008
Muse

Here is a picture of me guys. Tell me what you think Bahahahaha

14 05 2008
brran1

Ok. Stop. Wait a minute.

Attractive = Yes
Looking Better than Nia Long = No.

You’ve just proved that you’ve skipped your meds for the day. Please take them.

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“@ Chris: I’m starting to suspect fraudulent pics. What say you?”

I don’t think so. If they were fake, she’d have picked somebody better looking. Unless she’s an idiot, which I suppose isn’t out of the question.

Fuck it, she’s boring me now.

14 05 2008
Knatural

Muse, you’re naked!

14 05 2008
brran1

@ Muse: I’m feeling that full body suit. Is that brown or dark tan?

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Knatural don’t hate on me because you lack confidence.

14 05 2008
maya

I have a question for Creole Beauty-

Do you have a problem with women who are not Creole? Your comments seem to suggest less about being proud of your heritage and more about disdain for the Black aesthetic, particularly your last comment. In regards to the point that Grimm keeps trying to make us believe, yes, I agree some girls who are insecure will feel some-type-of-way about a pretty girl – but that’s trust whether she is White, Black, Brown, tall, short, whatever. No one hates you because you’re light skinned, and anyone who hates you for that reason is just an ignorant a fucktwad as you’d think to be.

But Creole Beauty, your comments seem to suggest a bigger type of self-hate. No doubt, you’re a pretty girl, but (based on your comments) you’re the type of chick with that “Imitation of Life” complex that thinks because you’re light skinned you can go around talking shit about Black people, particularly other women, because the rules don’t apply to you. You may not need a press, but you do need a mirror, and not to check out them pretty green eyes of yours. (And don’t get it twisted, my mom has green eyes that change with the season, so relax yourself.) It seems you need to evaluate where you’re getting your self worth from. Pretty only gets you so far, especially with an ugly-ass attitude like the one you’re displaying.

14 05 2008
Lolo

Merri Lee, you are killing me here.
@Muse this is a picture of me. http://analyzer.depaul.edu/paperplate/Goodnight%20Moon/GM%20cover%20page.jpg
Don’t hate now, I know I’m shiny and round but that’s just cuz I’m superior to all of you.

14 05 2008
Muse

Brown fur is in. For the summer I’m going to dye my coat blonde.

Creole, no one is tryin to “hate”

Your e-persona sucks STD balls.

You are a pretty girl but that only goes so far.

But don’t let me gas your head up.

14 05 2008
brran1

I’d love to continue to humor you Creole Beauty, but I have exams in the AM. Back to studying I go. SMH

Pretty Face + Stank Ass Attitude = Ugly Ass Broad.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

Wow.

I am never going to identify myself as african american or african canadian because some dumbass white person see’s my black skin and identifies me as such. I am not going to ignore/erase/throw away my history/culture/etc. just to make whitey happy and make it easier to label me.

I can’t blve the number of people who have a problem with that. Get a life people and stop trying to make whitey happy.

14 05 2008
maya

Hmmm. No homo, but Nia Long is a for all seasons banger, sorry Creole.

Other bangers include:

Jill Scott
Sanaa Lathan
Tamia
Lauryn Hill (in the Miseducation era…lord only knows now)
Dihann Carol (for the old heads)
Jada Pinkett-Smith

14 05 2008
maya

…Also Naomi Campbell (despite her craziness)
…and why doesn’t Stacey Dash age???

14 05 2008
brran1

Good Genes and getting her back knocked out on a regular basis. Contrary to popular belief, sex does keep you young…

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Ne and Muse are the type of black women who don’t give credit where credit is due. Most people find my honesty refreshing. Too bad that I can’t give you a positive compliment Muse. Most ugly black girls like yourself are usually smart. Too bad that is not the case with you.

Maya you are an idiot. Just because I have pride in my culture and how I look doesn’t mean I hate others. This is an open forum where I have the right to express my views. The truth is most dark skin black women are not attractive.

Live with it.

14 05 2008
maya

Ugh. Damn her. See, girls? This is an example of a woman hating on a pretty girl.

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

I smell a Canadian…

14 05 2008
maya

LMAO.

Now, now, now, see… I refrained from name calling (which would’ve been easy, given your commentary) but the whole “you’re an idiot” thing is trite, at best. Word has it that your IP address is in Canada, so I guess you’re one of those migrating Creoles? Bitch, your white momma was raped by your black daddy and you hate black people because of it. Tell the truth and say it plain.

14 05 2008
Muse

Jada is the business even in her crazy rocker gear.

BTW I hate Stacey Dash. Damn her for looking better than most 20 year olds! She must wash her body in virgin blood or something.

14 05 2008
brran1

Not even Chris. She’s from the Caribbean. She’s mad b/c some banging brown skin chick named Aiesha down at the INS deported her bitter ass.

14 05 2008
Quirky Cutie

@ Somali Queen, I agree with you 100%. Am I supposed to just limit myself to a generic blackness because that’s how white people see me? Black people have a rich and varied history. We need to celebrate the fact that we’re not homogenous without putting down other black cultures. It’s amazing how many ignorant people there are out there.

14 05 2008
scarletjones

dang! i was going to add Creole Beauty to the “abuse” list, but I don’t know any Canadian psychologists.

oh well.

14 05 2008
Muse

DEAD @ Maya….

I hate you with my soul right now.

14 05 2008
maya

Also, Creole Snooty, I didn’t say you shouldn’t have pride in your culture. In fact, I think people of color should embrace their culture openly, and I don’t think that means you hate anyone else because you do so. But in the case of your simple-minded ass, you’re using your culture as a way of achieving superiority, when in reality, while there may be cultural nuances specific to being Creole, you’re black, and not only are you black, but you’re BLACK AMERICAN, so let’s not split hairs. Not even curly Creole ones.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Somali Queen is finally someone with integrity.There is nothing wrong with being proud of your culture.

Chris what is the point in revealing my location?Should I post the email you sent a few minutes ago trying to get my #?

14 05 2008
maya

Dear heavens. Creole Beauty, how old are you? I’m not asking that in a patronizing way, I really am curious to know your age.

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“Chris what is the point in revealing my location? Should I post the email you sent a few minutes ago trying to get my #?”

I’d be VERY interested to see it, yes 🙂

14 05 2008
maya

Hmm…looks like niggas Creoles are gettin called out tonight….LOL

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

26 years old but my wisdom is ageless.

All the bitter dark skin Black women on here need to accept that you will always be viewed as less attractive than me

14 05 2008
Muse

I just had a thought: Creepy Creole, you aren’t exactly that light. Maybe you tanned while catching crawlfish in the bayou????

Maybe it’s just me?

14 05 2008
Muse

Creole would be picking cotton right next to my darkie ass if we were both slaves LOL.

14 05 2008
maya

CB –

I’ll give you that. In general, yeah, dark skinned women may in general be viewed as less attractive than you (re: light skinned women) … that is until about age…35, when all that shit starts cracking.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

creole beauty,

don’t use my comment to support your asinine argument.

14 05 2008
Lolo

The Creole Pooty has a shrimp boat yacht.

14 05 2008
maya

LMAO @ SOMALI QUEEN’S REBUTTAL. I have fallen out of my chair and will be there for the rest of the night.

Please, CB, pick up your pretty face off the fucking floor.

14 05 2008
Knatural

hahahahahahaha@Stacey Dash bathing in virgin blood. GROSS, wait, maybe I’ll try that. Jada, Sanaa, Nia, Jill – all sexy. Lauren, I don’t know about that. Back during the Miseducation Of… she was, but now she’s lost some luster for me.
What about Gabrielle Union? Her skin is flawless.

Creole Beauty, why does confidence in one’s self equate to putting down others? Tell me oh wise one.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Muse you probably have never been out of the ghetto but for your information I got a tan while vacationing in the Basque region of Spain.

14 05 2008
Shine

ST in rare form today. “you gave me the stupid didn’t you” “cunting license” Man shabooty has to step down, I’m now taking all my new words and phrases from you. Except Edward niggahands which I still have to find a way to work into a conversation (with black people).

As far as conversate as a word. Our children have a problem. My brother is ‘gifted’ (stupid ass term) young black man, 18 and we were playing a word game over at luminosity. They give you 3 letters and you have to come up with as many words as you can think of that start with those 3 letters. Do you know how many times this boy came with with stuff like conversate? And all other kinds of incorrectly conjugated words. I really needed to tell him conversate was not a word and there is no past tense for the word shit (shat=not real). He was arguing with me over some stupid stuff. And this is a bright one for his generation.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Now what bitch? Jealous because food stamps don’t count as airline miles?

14 05 2008
Muse

OH NO SHE DIDN’T!

14 05 2008
brran1

@ CB: If you don’t mind my asking, what’s your ethnicity?

14 05 2008
Muse

The field slave in me is about to come out.

Creepy Creole the only way your quarter dark ass maganged to get over any water besides the bayou was through sponsorship by those kindly Canadian men whose dick your sucking between keystrokes. Meanwhile, the rest of us travel early and often, with or without frequent flyers you coupon clipping bitch.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

‘@ Muse: I understand what you’re saying. That’s part of the reason why I don’t bring up being Haitian. What’s the point? To a 25-20, i’m just another nigger. Don’t get me wrong though, I have pride in being multi-racial, but you won’t see me advertising it. Doing that would make me look like a self righteous fucktwat.’

————————————–

This is the saddest shit I’ve ever heard..if this isn’t self hatred…then what is? So your gonna deny your heritage and ethnicity because whitey sees you as ‘nigger’ and you’re just gong to accept it?

Talk about whitewashed — it’s beyond brainwashed.

14 05 2008
brran1

Excuse me Somali Queen, but how is that self hatred? I’ll be the first to admit i’m Haitian and African American, but you wont see me shouting it any and everywhere I go.

14 05 2008
Muse

Seriously Creole, your kind makes me sad.

Your family doesn’t own a tobacco farm, instead you turn tricks for internet access. I’m going to need your pimp to put you on punishment.

14 05 2008
maya

I’m still waiting on CB to upload the email from Chris…

Remember kids: Only bitches talk shit.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

My goodness did I touch a nerve? Sounds like it.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

Read your post again please — I didn’t say you had to shout it but if you’re asked don’t deny it.

Doin’t bend over backwards for cock-asians.

14 05 2008
maya

LMAO @ Muse. CB knows good and damn well she has to ask her Daddy for permission before she gets online. She’s fuckin’ with his money.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

AND PEOPLE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING THAT’S BEAUTIFUL STOP CALLING YOURSELVES NIGGERS!

STOP BEING SHITBRAINED ENOUGH TO BE RACIST AGAINST YOUR OWN SELVES.

14 05 2008
brran1

You misunderstood the post. Especially the part where I said: “I have pride in being multi-racial, but you won’t see me advertising it. Doing that would make me look like a self righteous fucktwat.”

Meaning I won’t find away to work the fact that i’m Haitian and African American into every conversation.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

^I never said you had to — anyone who brings their ethnicity into conversation regularly for no reason has problems bigger than we can imagine. I had a problem with this part of your comment: ‘What’s the point? To a 25-20, i’m just another nigger.’

Can you honestly tell me that sounds ok?

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

Chris,

It’s funny you wrote this post considering that you like to mention your half native indian in every second post.

The irony just KILLS me.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

P.S. It’s ok for you to be proud of being half native indian but everyone else has to shun their ethnicity? BITCH PLEASE!

14 05 2008
brran1

Is that not the truth? A 25-20 aka a White Person can’t tell that I’m Haitian and African American. They know what they see, which is A black person.

14 05 2008
maya

So, I guess Somali Queen just incited Armageddon…

Jesus be a bunker for the safe keeping of my life at the wrath that will surely come from Chris…

14 05 2008
Muse

My my cheeks are sore and my mouth hurts from laughing.

14 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

Creole Beauty…forget skin tone. What’s your credit score? You DO realize that’s all that really matters, right? Darkie with 793 checking in…

14 05 2008
maya

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ FRUITY PEBBLE.

Was that a roll call?! I love it!

14 05 2008
urbantongue

@every single one of Creole Beauty’s comments

Wow. In the words of Uncle Ruckus: I sense powerful niggadry at work here.

You place so much emphasis on the fairness on your complexion you forget that to the people whose standards of beauty you try to tote the banner for, you’re just another N ! G G E R. Yes, that’s right…when you get down to the wire, white people will lump you together with your “darkie” cousins, and they will place Gisele Bundchen on a higher pedestal before they even give you a second glance. So take the ass reaming with a smile and a glass of shut the fuck up. Pathetic has its boundaries, and at this point you’ve crashed head first into yours.

Heartlessly,
Aisha ;D

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Somali Queen,

It’s funny that you’re back here annoying everyone with your comments after promising a boycott a couple posts back.

It’s also funny that you’re faulting me for mentioning being an Indian when you have your ethnicity/nationality in all caps in your name.

Finally, it’s funny that you ignored the point of my post – railing against the subset of Creole’s who think being Creole makes them superior (a claim I have never made about my Indian-ness) – so you’d have an excuse to pretend to be angry.

Please please find something to eat so you’ll have the calories required to be a more effective and lucid bitch.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

“Creole,

A real man can admit when he has to eat his words. But I think you should chill. Let’s talk. Here is my # 912-271-7139

Chris”

That is the email I received in my box.

14 05 2008
maya

*expired*

urbantongue has just inspired me to change my status on fb.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

DOM you stole the words off my finger tips!

“Between leaving work and arriving home, this post has descended to madness. Grimm, stop posting as Creole Beauty.”

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Damn it got crazy up in here! Creole Beauty is in here behaving like an Africanized or as we renamed them a KKK Bee, as Chris wrote last month: “Unusual aggression in the bees only happens when European and African varieties mix ” Damn that racial mixing!


This is uplifting.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

HAHAHA very funny. Not only are u a hypocrite but you can’t read — as I can clearly recall I said I’ll be back.

Number two: I never made a post about dissing other people’s races/ethnicites/cultures so I can proudly put my nickname in caps.

Number three: Oh I’m native indian, oh I’m so light I burn, oh look at my green eyes, oh black girls hate me because I’m black etc. etc. etc.

Don’t hate when your called out for your shit babe.

14 05 2008
Knatural

ahahahahahahaha…you are using this blog to get dates! Nice.

14 05 2008
maya

Jesus, Creole, at least be an effective liar. 912 is a Georgia area code. Chris is in DC-Metro.

14 05 2008
SOMALI QUEEN

correction:

* hate me because I’m light

14 05 2008
Muse

I hate everyone right now. My stomach hurts.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

That’s the # that was given to me.Irregardless I don’t have to prove myself. Chris was trying to make a move and gave me that #. He isn’t even my type.

14 05 2008
Fruity Pebble

Did that bitch just say IRREGARDLESS?!??! Meeting adjourned.

14 05 2008
Muse

::DEAD:::

I’m fucking done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Irregardless….LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!!!!!!!

14 05 2008
brran1

Irregardless? You just proved one thing. You can be attractive and be “rich” as hell. You still wont move farther than a cumbucket if you are unable to properly speak English.

14 05 2008
maya

OMG “Irregardless!” She IS Creole like “conversating” ass Be-yawn-say, Beyond-sense, or whatever else you wanna call her.

14 05 2008
Muse

aWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWww LOL

14 05 2008
maya

Someone please say the Benediction.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

LMFAOMFOMAOFMOAMFAO @ CREOLE ASSHAT

I believe the word synonymous with “regardless” that you’re looking for, Ms. Creole Beauty, is irrespective. The worst time to start fucking up the language is when you’re in the middle of a text-war and losing.

14 05 2008
brran1

My bad. That should be ‘speak English properly’.

14 05 2008
Muse

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD FUCKING NIGHT. I’m DONE DONE DONE DONE

14 05 2008
maya

…May the Lord watch between Me and Thee, while we are absent, one from another…

14 05 2008
Shine

I was wondering when chris left the metro area and headed south. Maybe he wanted to be closer to CB. That ridiculousness is cracking me up. CB is defintely Uncle Ruckus trying to start shit on this site. Oh and muse, you are so cute. Unfortunately not as cute as Lolo. The near perfect circle of her face almost makes me want to switch sides.

14 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

14 05 2008
Shine

irregardless… good night!

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Dumb black people are so ignorant.

Irregardless is a word

http://Www.wikipedia.com/irregardless

14 05 2008
brran1

Hey Anmarie: I said it before, and I’ll say it again.

DOWN WITH KLAN BEES!

14 05 2008
Knatural

oh, if it’s on wikipedia it must be all true!

14 05 2008
brran1

2 things for you, Creole Beauty:

1. What’s the deal with you posting all those fake ass links?

2. I don’t know what language you speak, but in Standard American English, I believe the term you are speaking of is REGARDLESS.

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Somali Queen,

If you’re done correcting yourself for the four hundredth time, I’ll address your ludicrous response:

“HAHAHA very funny. Not only are u a hypocrite but you can’t read — as I can clearly recall I said I’ll be back.”

I was kinda hoping you were lying, kinda like you are about the second half of your name.

“Number two: I never made a post about dissing other people’s races/ethnicites/cultures so I can proudly put my nickname in caps.”

There is a rather popular page on this blog called ‘Why you shouldn’t read this blog” that explicitly states that I will mercilessly harass every race of people on the planet. I know for a fact that you’ve been directed to that page at least once. If you refuse to read it, then you getting offended isn’t my problem, and I continue to wonder what the blue hell you’re doing here reading my site.

“Number three: Oh I’m native indian, oh I’m so light I burn, oh look at my green eyes, oh black girls hate me because I’m black etc. etc. etc.”

Yes, I’ve put it out there that I’m an Indian. You’ll also notice that other people have but their ethnicities out there without drawing any fire from me. People (like you) only draw my ethnic ire when they get pretentious about it. As to the rest of your insane comment, I do not recall asking anyone to look at my greenish/hazelish/reddish/blackish eyes. I also don’t recall saying black girls hate me because I’m black. But perhaps I’m getting forgetful in my old age.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

Word! brran1. More Proof! Where’s my bug spray!?!

CB :” I’m a proud Creole woman with beautiful green eyes and light brown hair”

“In other words, the Africanized bees don’t even fucking LOOK LIKE African bees – they look like European bees!”

Damn Clan Bees

14 05 2008
maya

OMG SHE CITED WIKIPEDIA!

i CANNOT AND WILL NOT ENDURE THIS.

Bitch, it is not a word. Please don’t tell me otherwise. I have a journalism degree. There are a LONG list of words that people THINK are words because they say them all the time to sound smart (please see your comment above.) The fact that you just cited WIKIPEDIA makes me incredibly sad for you. Instead of financing vacations, please use your Canadian dick sucking to get yourself a degree. Your “wisdom” does neither you, nor the English language, justice.

14 05 2008
Knatural

if your dumbass actually read the article, you would have noticed that ‘irregardless’ (I laugh just typing it) is a moving into mainstream usage because it’s been missused so much.

14 05 2008
maya

But I do find it hysterical that she went to confirm whether or not it is actually a word to bolster her point.

14 05 2008
brran1

On top of what Knat just mentioned if you look at the prefix and the end of the term (Ir- and -less) the term itself is a double negative which implies that you ARE in fact giving regard to something.

Idiot.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

There is no point in conversating with you people. I’ve seen tons of spelling and grammatical errors in this blog. Who cares. This isn’t english class.Get a life.

14 05 2008
Knatural

she’s hilarious.

14 05 2008
brran1

Now it’s conversating? This broad is a genius. Someone please phone MENSA.

14 05 2008
maya

Jesus. “Conversating.”

My soul has been stirred.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

bye Grimm, we enjoyed hearing from one of the voices in your head.

14 05 2008
Knatural

Creole Booty – sure we all make grammatical/spelling errors, but most of us don’t display such blind arrogance and shittiness toward others.

14 05 2008
maya

Grimm thought if she came at us with her smarter version of Creolism that we’d dig it.

Application denied.

14 05 2008
scarletjones

Insane blog trolls sneak into your house and chew your toes off in your sleep if you feed them during the day.

don’t feed the trolls!

14 05 2008
anjiebaby

Cre·ole /ˈkrioʊl/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[kree-ohl] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a person born in the West Indies or Spanish America but of European, usually Spanish, ancestry.
2. a person born in Louisiana but of usually French ancestry.
3. (sometimes lowercase) a person of mixed black and European, esp. French or Spanish, ancestry who speaks a creolized form of French or Spanish.
4. (usually lowercase) a creolized language; a pidgin that has become the native language of a speech community. Compare pidgin.
5. the creolized French language of the descendants of the original settlers of Louisiana. Compare Cajun.
6. Haitian Creole.
7. (usually lowercase) Archaic. a black person born in the New World, as distinguished from one brought there from Africa.
–adjective
8. (sometimes lowercase) of, pertaining to, or characteristic of a Creole or Creoles.
9. (usually lowercase) Cookery. indicating a spicy sauce or dish made esp. with tomatoes, peppers, onions, celery, and seasonings, and often served with rice.
10. (sometimes lowercase) bred or growing in a country, but of foreign origin, as an animal or plant.
[Origin: 1595–1605; < F < Sp criollo < Pg crioulo native, deriv. of criar to bring up < L creāre; see create]

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Only bitter losers will spend time picking sentences apart

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

Daaaamn, 400-some comments? Chris, you have hit the black american sensitive spot.

14 05 2008
brran1

@ CB: You brought the attention to yourself. Sure other people make spelling and grammatical errors, but when you put yourself in the Hot Seat, you should expect it.

14 05 2008
maya

CB – this is where the big kids play. I guess you can’t take the heat ’cause you aren’t used to having a hot comb near the nape of your neck. LOL.

14 05 2008
Sylph

CB, *you* came to this site. You started picking on everybody here and clearly misunderstood what Chris was stating in his blog. You are the one who started making ridiculous offensive comments on people you don’t even know on the basis that everyone else is jealous of you blah blah blah crabcakes. Don’t get offended when people tear you down and call you on your shit.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

“Only bitter losers will spend time picking sentences apart” Irregardless, what else is there to do while waiting for Law and Order: SVU? Tell me wise Clan Bee?

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Being an expert in English is not required. I have money, beauty, and a great personality. Not everyone can say that.

14 05 2008
Sylph

*hi-fives Anmarie*

14 05 2008
anjiebaby

So, according to dictionary.com, you can claim to be creole/Creole if:

1.) You are were born in: Louisiana, the West Indies, Spanish America, Haiti, or the clencher for black folks . . . the New World.

2.) You are food that contains tomatoes, peppers, onions, celery, seasonings & is served with rice.

3.) You were bred/growing in a country but are of foreign origin (hey, that pretty much gets all the ensuing waves of immigration to the US)

So, will all the creoles/Creoles please raise their hands. 🙂

14 05 2008
brran1

Ok. So when you’re Sugar Daddy cuts you off because your external beauty fades, where will you be? Off in a corner somewhere exclaiming how great your personality is.

Get over yourself. Please.

14 05 2008
brran1

damn another spelling error. That should be ‘your’

14 05 2008
brran1

*Raises Hand*

14 05 2008
Anmarie

“Being an expert in English is not required. I have money, beauty, and a great personality. Not everyone can say that.”

Grimm stop playing, that’s really you, come on I know it is…come on tell the truth.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

No. I tear you apart because I’m a sadist and a writer. I take nothing but the utmost pleasure in picking my teeth with your bones…oh wait, that’s cannibalism–ahem!

Anyway. You should change your name to “Creole Cunt” so that you’ll be right on the money. You cited Wikipedia, which, if you were paying attention in English 101, you would know is one of the top unreliable sources for information because it is an open-source website. Meaning, my cat could have shit on the keyboard and come up with that entry about “irregardless.” Irrespective, the entry still states that you are wrong.

In the end, you still lack the interpersonal skills to even rival those of a retarded Chilean sea bass. 😉

14 05 2008
Ne

I know im late but…….Irregardless???????????????????????????????????????????/

why lord why?

14 05 2008
Knatural

AHAHAHAHAHA@anjiebaby, I contain tomatoes, peppers, onions, celery and am often served with rice.

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

My family has money. I don’t need to open my legs like most of the women here!

14 05 2008
urbantongue

@Creole

I’m sure you’ve opened your legs enough times to make a 6-figure salary since your last pap smear.

…was that tasteless of me, anyone?

14 05 2008
urbantongue

P.S.

Your family has money. Are you insinuating that you are a free-loading, useless daughter waiting for some strapping young business man to come courting you?

Bitch, please. I make more sitting on my ass brainstorming than you do Googling fake pics.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

“My family has money. I don’t need to open my legs like most of the women here!”

blink… blink…blink

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo this shit is crazy

14 05 2008
Creole Beauty

Urban togue a nigger like you wouldn’t understand wealth since all your money goes towards hairweave and rims

14 05 2008
Ne

Didn’t rain man say she was on a yacht…..?????

WTF ARE YOU DOING ON THE COMPUTER?????
DON’T YOU HAVE SOME CREOLE HAIR YOU’D LIKE TO TOSS, OR BAT YOUR GREEN CREOLE EYES AT THE MOON….FUCK OUTTA HERE!

14 05 2008
Knatural

urbantongue – i heart you (in a non-gay way, of course)

14 05 2008
Admiral Furious

Jesus H Christ… damn near 400 posts on this?

You know… it seems like even niggas don’t REALLY wanna be niggas. Fuck Beyonce… and fuck any pompous asshole who believes that they’re better than black people just because they’re light skinned. Its bad enough that other people’s respect for the black race goes down as the skin tone gets darker… we can’t be doing this shit to each other.

REGARDLESS… to hell with anyone who has bad attitude toward their “brothers and sisters”

14 05 2008
Sylph

If CB is Grimm I take it that she stopped using her blackberry (yes, I remember things) and found a computer in which she can type statements that are legible but are no way coherent. Got it.

“My family has money. I don’t need to open my legs like most of the women here!”

Must.find.ways.not.to.explode.

14 05 2008
scarletjones

why are ya’ll still responding to Creole Beauty? Encouraging insane people to further entrench themselves in their delusions is bad for their psyche. And since i feel bad that i can’t help the woman get “inpatient” i feel the need to make sure that we don’t do any more to encourage her continued descent into madness.

14 05 2008
Ne

once again … I’M LATE

Hi five to maya!

14 05 2008
urbantongue

@Creole

I’m an advocate of the Green Campaign — I take my bike everywhere, and I use public transportation. I have never once spent money on anything I didn’t need. And I’ve probably seen the stars from more places around the world than you have even crossed the Mason-Dixon Line.

Your immediate attacking of the stereotypical way black people spend their money is par for the course, so you’re only getting a droll shrug from me. So if you’re going to contend with me about true wealth (as people on the Internet are wont to do), make sure you can back it up. Good English (and Creole) included. ;D

14 05 2008
maya

WOWWWW @ CB. Did you really call her a NIGGER? Now you have most certainly reaffirmed my sentiments in my initial post to you, not to mention that you’ve reduced dark-skinned blacks to stereotypes about rims and weave.

Fuck you, bitch. You need help.

14 05 2008
maya

*Hi-fives Ne!*

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Ok, Creole Broody is blocked. I can’t friggin’ take anymore. My skull hurts and I haven’t even started drinking yet.

Jesus fucking Christ somebody please start talking about sex or something.

14 05 2008
Admiral Furious

Actually… you know what… this topic reminds me of my cousin. She, though not creole, believes that she is far better than the black race because she was “blessed” with the LA look (light skinned with good hair… mainly because she is 1/8th+ Oneida, with a bit of French and Italian thrown in) and refuses to interact with black people because of such. She does not take credit for her Native or French Canadian Heritage, but she bathes in her Italian heritage somehow or another her father is an Italian descendant. Somehow or another she claims that she should be catered to by European and Asian men… yet wonders why neither actually take her up on that thought. Delusional. Real life is slowly but surely wearing her down. BTW she refuses to date black men because they would never give her beautiful babies.

This just made me angry as fuck.

14 05 2008
maya

LMAO @ Chris.

Um…sex. Hasn’t happened in 3 weeks, so I’m starting to forget. 😦

14 05 2008
Ne

GOOD IDEA!

I need a cigarette from the family business ( and I dont even smoke)

14 05 2008
urbantongue

What’s more entertaining is that I’ve never once worn a weave in my lifetime, nor do I have any idea how to put one in my hair…let alone have the desire to shell out any amount of money to have someone do it for me. I’m content with my thick, unruly (yet manageable) black hair.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

Sex sounds so good right about now. I think I need to make a very important phone call…

14 05 2008
Yonnie3K

Sooo….teeth is a bad thing you say?

Just trying to change the subject as requested.

14 05 2008
Knatural

awww, you blocked her!?! Her ignorance was comforting.

14 05 2008
Admiral Furious

BTW… when I said LA earlier… I meant Los Angeles…

14 05 2008
Anmarie

I like sex when it’s raining out…awwwwwwwe 🙂

14 05 2008
scarletjones

teeth are bad! can a sista get some advice however? My jaw starts to hurt about 5 minutes in and i’m just at a loss as to how to keep the pain at bay!

14 05 2008
Ne

Since we are discussing sex. I would like to share.

I am having the best SEX of my life. I

14 05 2008
Shine

Shoot anymore head tips? I was enlightening some of my friends. They didn’t know about the humming but they can’t deep throat either.

14 05 2008
Shine

Actually we should turn this around and give tips to brothers on going down. Some really need it.

14 05 2008
Sylph

And tell them to cut their nails while they’re at it. Nothing worse than a guy going down on you and it feels like a hysterectomy.

Glad you blocked her cause Sylph was gonna have to choke a bitch.

14 05 2008
Ne

deep throat?

I don’t know ow to do that…please share.

14 05 2008
Knatural

scarlet – you are experiencing jaw-lag. Take a short break, use your hands, then resume and just power throw, you’ll get your second wind AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, it’s like running.
Ne – that’s wonderful. But what happened to your accent mark. Did that Creole bitch steal it??!!??

14 05 2008
Shine

Actually I’m going to send this out to you Chris. It always makes me feel better.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

LMFAO there’s this site called “Wiki Afterdark” with plenty of sex tips, and one thorough lesson on how to control your gag reflex for deepthroating.

I hear some guys feel great when they hear a woman gagging on their dick…it apparently makes them feel like their dick is big. Is this true?

14 05 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

I wanna know the Top 10 List for giving good head to a woman. Let’s hear it dammit!

14 05 2008
Ne

lmao knatural

I’m at home and have never posted from home. I was lazy and didn’t add it. 🙂

I always gag when it (penis) gets to my uvula.

14 05 2008
brran1

*Grabs notepad and pencil*

14 05 2008
Ne

I want to share something else.

My man Loves it when he is about to cum and i jack him off and rub the tip of his dick.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

Alright i got this one it’s gonna take a second, wait for it.

14 05 2008
Ne

@ urbantongue

My man loves to push his dck to make me gag. He says he gets satisfaction out of it.

14 05 2008
scarletjones

Thanks Knat, i was hoping there was an oral numbing cream or something that i could use in lieu of the “rythym method” (for lack of a better term) 🙂 maybe i’ll try high powered orajel….

14 05 2008
Ne

…freaky ass cancer’s

14 05 2008
Uncle Ruckus

FYI To all you dahkies in heah thinking that mulatto chile was me: YOUS WRONG. Nao, i dun like you dahkies in the slightest, but Chris, I’m glad you blocked heah. She’s no account actn’ like she somebody when she just a DAHKIE like all the rest uh y’all. She mahginally mo’ acceptable because uh her ancestry-likely got some pure, clean white blood in ‘er.

BUT i gotsa say: I wouldn’t want that bitch on my side neither. That chile got issues upon issues and Ise wonderin’ if she a troll…

Anyway, you dahkies keep carryin on about your business. Talkin about fuckin and suckin and doin what it is you do with yo free time-unlike the pure, virginal white people who only fuck when they needs to have pure, white clean babies.

All Praise the Lord White Jesus

Amen

14 05 2008
Ne

SCARLETJONES:

I use to experience the same thing. I started to relax my mouth and jaw. Do mouth exercises. Practice opening and closing your mouth.

14 05 2008
Lolo

Okay, who actually called that phone number that Creoleo posted?

The fact that she cited Wikipedia is hysterical, but it makes me a little cranky that I know rich people who are just that stupid.

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

Guys like it when you gag for sure. Every single guy I’ve gone down on likes to attempt to gag me on his dick. It is definitely a mix of a power trip and an I have a big dick thing.

14 05 2008
Lolo

@Chris

Tip #1 – It’s not a Lifesaver candy, dumbasses!

Ahem. The women will understand and other than that, I’m not saying because there are evidently children on this board …. go to bed, Grimm.

14 05 2008
scarletjones

Ne – thanks. i need to just get my jaw workout on every night so i can be ready in case i gotta start the revolution.

and gag inducement is not polite at all gentlemen!

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

Oh and for Chris, I would suggest a number of things, but I guess the golden rule is to go slowly. Chicks don’t go from chillin to wet in 1/60 of a second like guys go from flaccid to hard.

Maybe I’m in the minority here, but i can’t stand it when a guy just kinda takes a few licks then starts jabbing his fingers in my like he’s mining coal. I feel like he’s gonna shake loose an ovary.

14 05 2008
brran1

*note taken*

14 05 2008
Knatural

oh my, top ten, not sure if it’s that many:
1. no hands at first. kisses and blowing.
2. know the difference between the clitoris and the clitoral hood
3. do not necessarily go straight for the clit, build up to it. Just like a story.
4. use the tongue to spell words, sounds silly but works.
5. humming/moaning is also good
6. shocker is ok

Note: good whistlers are usually good…you know.

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

@ Knatural “6. shocker is ok”

Hey now, you’re just giving away female secrets. You know we act like we don’t wanna do it just so guys think that they are getting something special. C’mon now. 😛

14 05 2008
scarletjones

#3 on Knats list is SOOO important! and a polite woman would not be inclined to stop a dude while he’s doing her the service of giving some head to try to direct, so please just keep it in mind.

14 05 2008
Knatural

yeah, guys go crazy with hands. Why must you touch everything? I agree with Not Blonde, we usually don’t get wet at the blink of an eye, so be considerate.

14 05 2008
14 05 2008
Anmarie

THE HEAD HELPER

1. Most most important for any sexual dealings with a woman: It’s almost 100% mental. The organism comes when the mind is blown so you have to set the shit up right. Now know your woman. Some are really turned on by slow sexy 4 play. Some are turned on my hot passionate steamy 4play. Some (wink) like a surprise, ie Sneak up behind her in the kitchen cup her breast, firmly and passionly kiss her neck then her mouth, lift her onto the counter (it’s a real mental F* if you have to throw something down first) then put you’re face in the place. Boom get the set up right! moving on

2. *Make sure that you keep your teeth to your self and have trimmed nails.

3. Sound like you love it, a pleassure moan as soon as you taste it is nice, you can even comment if you can manage not to sound corny when doing so.

4. Full mouth contact. none of that just licking the clit shit. Act like your sucking and slurping on the juiciest melon ever. You should even put your tongue inside the vagina. (NO TEETH THOUGH!-unless of course she likes that sick shit) now to the actual licking

5. Pay attention to what gets the moan and/or hip movement. Some women or a woman at some times likes very light teasing flicking of the tongue on her clit-taurus :-). Another woman may like stronger faster licks, some may like a sexy belly dance motion of the tongue, some like sucking & licking combos. Some like any or all combos of techiques mentioned. Find the Sweet Spot on her clitoris that gets the most sensation. If you haven;t gotten the BIG O response please do ask what she likes. She’ll love you for it.

6. USE YOUR HANDS, USE YOUR HANDS, this will help if you have long arms. Reach up and stroke the nipples, cup and knead the breast. Lick your fingers before you do it for added pleasure. Place your finger in her mouth if she likes to suck on things(wink). And this is where it;s important to keep nails trimmed- finger her as well, let her reaction tell you hard or soft. Grab the inner thigh, whatever be creative keep her interested.

7. STROKE THE EGO, women the conceited bastards that we are love to be woreshipped. So take a little time not much to insert “you’re beautiful”, “hmmm you taste good” (lol, so what I like it!), “Damn this ________is ___________” (you get me). Kiss/suck/lick a thigh. Then get back to business. ALWAY ALWAYS LET HER KNOW YOU LOVE IT!

8. Don’t want to make her feel rushed to the O, thinking about it can chase it away. You might want to insert some dirty talking if that’s what messes with her head and if she’s taking to long, careful you don’t want to offend a prude, so watch out

9. Use tools if necessary, ice (if you guys like that), hot water. Changing your mouth temperature is good. Use her vibrator or dildo for that extra helping hand. Vibrator on the nipples can be quite helpful in attaining that truely lovely love goal. 🙂

10. DON’T STOP AT THE CLIMAX. Even if she’s bucking like a raging bull and about to throw you both on the floor(if you aren’t already there) HOLD ON! Keep at it until she’s finished, and only able to witch and beg you to stop. You’ll be her hero or make her cum again if she’s being greedy!

Nice chatting with ya.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

HMMMM, Knat shocker is good, guys that means you do soft soft tease linger then whow hit me hard. THat’s what you mean right?

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

Um…Anmarie, I’d look up shocker on urbandictionary.

14 05 2008
Seraph

as a person who has lived in louisiana mai whole life, i meet at least one fake creole bitch a week. i always want to turn the hose on her, pull out her tracks and get crawfish juice under her contacts (that shit burns).

14 05 2008
urbantongue

Anmarie should be a sexual consultant for guys who are ignorant in Cliterature.

14 05 2008
maya

“i can’t stand it when a guy just kinda takes a few licks then starts jabbing his fingers in my like he’s mining coal. I feel like he’s gonna shake loose an ovary.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Why do people do this and who told them it was okay?! OMG. It makes me really sad (and sore once the hoopla has died down.) I’ve heard stories of women who have to ice afterwards! And the nail thing is a true.fucking.story. Women should not have to keep tiny tubes of Neosporin in the medicine cabinet because men wanna roll around shanking people in the vag.

I will refrain from saying anything else, seeing as I’ve already had two friends come up to me and say “you are so hilarious on that site,” and I don’t need knee-grows knowin’ about how I does mines.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

My ex used to do that half-ass licking the clit thing.

And I would just be so exasperated that I’d just tell him to fuck me so I can go back to playing Bioshock.

Aside, even worse than the half-ass-clit-licking, don’t you hate when guys mindlessly start rubbing and they’re no where near the clit at all? Like…just rubbing the lips and thinking they’re doing shit. It’s funny, but irritating.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

NotBlonde (03:36:06) :

Um…Anmarie, I’d look up shocker on urbandictionary.

Ohhhh good heads up! where do you people come up with this stuff, yeah no, I may like a lot of things but a finger in the booty is not one them. I;m getting old.

14 05 2008
Ne

oh guys please wash your hands before inserting in the vajayjay

14 05 2008
Ne

@Anmarie

I fucking co-sign everything she wrote

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

@urbantongue, the random rubbing gets on my nerves as well. The now-ex used to do that as well. He’d be rubbing like, just under it or just above it. I’m like, dude, you can’t tell the difference in the way it feels? He had the issue with jabbing me.

There was one dude though who literally CUT me inside. He was fingering around in there and i felt this sharp pain but didn’t think anything of it (stupid, I know) and when he finished, he pulls his fingers out with dark blood all over them. And he’s all, “do you have your period?” I’m like, “No…” I look at his hands and dude had TALONS. Longest fingernails I’d ever seen on a dude. And this is the point where is gets really gross and graphic so read no further if you are easily disgusted: he had a bit of my flesh stuck under a nail.

Cut your nails guys. And not only that, but make sure there are NO sharp edges on your nails anywhere. How would you feel if I had a chipped tooth and went down on you?

14 05 2008
Anmarie

Ne you’re poster number 500! yay!
The guys haven’t said anything, hopefully they found our advice helpful. Good night all.

14 05 2008
Anmarie

OMG, oh damn my stomach just melted.

14 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Hate to bring up old stuff, but the first link she posted worked for me….and it was a different woman than the second one. The first one looked more White than Black. More evidence for my theory that she is a dark skinned woman of many chins, trolling blogs, worshiping her Beyonce shrine whilst she prays that the sweet Lord Jesus gives her green eyes. Poor thing, she wasn’t even clever enough to pick a woman who was that light skinned. I may be a cheap whore, but I am lighter than the girl in that picture and I don’t think I’m the litmus test for yallers at all. She didn’t appear to have green eyes either….

Meanwhile, that poor girl in the picture (likely kidnapped from Black Planet) is gonna have a bottle thrown at her someday and never know why.

Man. I don’t have the heart to join the sex talk after catching up on what I missed. Here’s my head tip: don’t pull my hair when I am doing it. It reminds me that I am a cheap whore.

14 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Chris-can you ban users by IP address, screenname or what? Curious.

14 05 2008
urbantongue

LMFAOMFAFAO WTF @ NotBlonde

YO DUDES PLEASE DON’T BRING TALONS NEAR ME. YOU WILL GET HIT AND THROWN OUT.

Anyway, that graphic story aside, I enjoy finger, to a degree. Some dudes don’t know how to finger a girl, and they’re just jabbing away and I’m like “How about we skip to the main event before I bust a gut laughing at your sorry ass technique? :D”

14 05 2008
maya

Gotta disagree, ST. Hairpulling can work can be a plus. But when they get grabby is makes me feel like I should be on the strip with fishnets.

14 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Maya (my soul sister, where u been?) I like hair pulling in general, just not then. Perhaps because of some bad experiences. When I am doing that, I want you to stroke my hair gently or even play in it….just not pull it. Face and neck carressing is nice too. Any other time, we can play rough but then I want to be handled more gently.

14 05 2008
NotBlonde

Hmmm, I’m with Maya on this one. With serious boyfriends I kinda like being treated like a cheap whore. The key there is that I like it sometimes. Definitely not all the time. And definitely not with someone I’m casually dating

14 05 2008
Ne

Yay! I was post 500

Do I get some type of booty grab from “the man” ?

14 05 2008
maya

ST –

Hi boo! Yes, I’ve been MIA – actually, half-dead between having a very gnarly case of a strep throat/sinus infection, and finals. I am typing some shit now, and I have NO IDEA what I’m writing about. I actually think I’m seeing things.

I wish I was on the post yesterday – I just read that shit about Chris allegedly white – WTF? Luckily, I came on time for this shit today, because Grimm: The Sequel (aka Creole Beauty) needed a good ass kicking.

14 05 2008
CEASE

ehh this sucked. hate to say that since i know it’s just your rants but i dont agree. couldnt pick out anything i found funny but hell that wasnt your goal and i can respect it…not kool taking pot shots @ Hov though my dude. holla!

14 05 2008
shabooty

my fav is a creole pigeon..which is a bitach that snorts hotsauce off the base of my cock and then speaks in a different dialect as a result.

14 05 2008
Mrs. Kennedy

Annmarie, I would also add “tension” to number 5 of your awesome head list. In my experience, if i’m relaxed and gazing at the ceiling, I’m bored. . . I prefer to give than receive anyway. . .
For head giving advice for the ladies, there is a “movie” featuring Karrine Stephans and Mr. Marcus. It should be on youporn (if its not there, i can send/post a link). Watch it, take a few notes. I think that movie can claim a good amount of the credit for my marriage. . . And if you’re too cute to watch porn, read a book (Blow His Mind is a good one).
Practice makes perfect. . .

14 05 2008
ninabrown

damn. i hate the fact that i work at a school and on the west coast. once i hit up your site, its blocked! when i get the chance to hit up your page, yall gone to bed!
great topic though!

14 05 2008
Esquire

Grimm:
Sorry but I wasnt on here, due to having a life, but I an dying to respond to this one.

“@Sista and esquire- A JD doesnt make you smarter, richer, or a bigger asset to society. In your efforts to look “good” you looked like a jerk.”

A J.D does is EXACTLY that. It DOES make me richer, it DOES make me smarter, it DOES make me a bigger asset to society than a walking clothes hanger, which is all a model is.

In your efforts to look “smart” you’ve only succeeding in looking like a jackass. I could care less about being a jerk…sweetie, thats what Im PAID to do. Im VERY happy and don’t need to prove it to you. Im VERY smart and dont need to prove it to you, this isnt the forum, besides the J.D. behind my name proves that at a minimum.

Now I’m done, because you shouldnt argue with a fool. People from a distance cant tell who is who.

14 05 2008
Shine

@Scarlet Jones, I don’t know if you’ve ever had or been to a sex toy party but they have some stuff there that does numb your throat so and kills off your gag reflex. I saw it in action (girl with severe gag reflex sticking her finger halfway down her throat, dirty minds) and it looks like it works. They also have some crazy lube for in case you’re down for anal. Also a bunch of other toys/products. check out http://www.slumberparties.com

14 05 2008
Knatural

Good Morning!

14 05 2008
Shine

Sorry its called good head. From what my girl says it does good things for him too.
http://www.slumberparties.com/productdetail.cfm?ProductIDCode=194&CategoryID=2

14 05 2008
stuffgirlslike

Creole queen- are you Nikkisixx from Cocoa Lounge?

14 05 2008
omi

i actually had a random, but pleasant, chat with a truly creole woman at an anti-war rally some years back…really interesting hearing about her family & such.

but yeah this pisses me off, too. it’d be funny to hit one of the faux creoles w/ a pop history quiz on the street…

people seem to mistake me for half-something or other all the time and are disppointed when i tell them i’m just “plain ol’ black”. hell, a LOT of us look a lot of different ways. don’t dismiss the fact that your folks were prolly chillin on the plantation just like mine…

14 05 2008
carl

I love how you hate beyonce, i hate the trick too. I was always a Kelly fan.

14 05 2008
Merri Lee

I hope Chris doesn’t ban people by IP address because that means the next person at the Public Library to use Kreyol Booty’s computer can’t post.

14 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Man, do YOU want someone else from her idiot village logging in? She’s probably in Kissincousin, NJ.

14 05 2008
omi

Lindsay : crying @ “BITCH DROPPED MY POPEYES!” and “beige bastard”

oh, man.

I just want to know what he said to her.

…yeah. i was pretty much thru after that. LOL.

14 05 2008
skirms

Creole is a culture, not a race. Race is an illusion. D’er.

14 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Some of these motherfuckers running around calling themselves Creole have no ancestral ties to Louisiana. They don’t speak Creole. They’ve never even BEEN to Louisiana. But that won’t stop the local resident douchebitch who happens to have ‘good hair’ from dying it blonde, getting Japanese straightening or whatever the fuck it’s called, throwing in green contact lenses, and running around claiming (implicitly or directly) to be better than ‘regular’ black people

toooo funnnnyyy hahahaha

and damn im late responding to this but goddamn who in the f is Creole Beauty with her greasy ass forehead? girls like her give Creole women a bad name.. My friend is Creole and she is way prettier than your ass. I swear ppl should re-think the things they say on her…nothing is more funnier(not a real word) than a chick sicin her own head up.. that’s not was up.. I bet her ass is Grimm…

14 05 2008
scarletjones

Thanks for the tip Shine! i haven’t been to a sex toy party in a bit, so i’m out of the loop.

14 05 2008
rachism

While we’re on the topic, I will stab the next motherfucker whos says”mixed kids are sooo pretty!!” When did being mixed make you pretty? I’ve seen plenty of ugly ass mixed kids with ugly ass parents…

14 05 2008
Merri Lee

@lolo – a day late and a dollar short, but I googled the phone#. 912 is Savannah, GA and Chris has made it clear he’s in DC. 912-271-7139 doesn’t match any Savannah #s

15 05 2008
Shine

So I finally got to the Museum of Sex a couple weeks ago and I’m about to put up my review on my blog but I thought, considering where this thread had gone, maybe someone here would enjoy these exhibitions as much as I did.
part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db9bowVZUgQ#
part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3odbSzIXJM&feature=related#

Also Mrs. Epps said I could be queen of the gutter mind this week.

15 05 2008
Sister Toldja

LOL @ Meri Lee!!!! Two points for the google fu. Even if she had been clever enough to use the proper area code, I wouldn’t have believed her. Shit, she coulda posted a webcam pic of Chris holding up a piece of paper that said “Yes, this is my phone number and I am giving it to Creole Queen on May 13th 2008” and I wouldn’t have believed her.

Shine-where is this museum? Time for a field trip!

15 05 2008
ghettopeople

Sister Toldja there is nothing Queen-like about Creole Cunt.

Yall know I wanted to give CB a verbal ass beating lucky for her I happen to think Curious George is cute.

15 05 2008
sey03

Interesting. My sister’s Dad is Creole from N.O. and whenever people ask her what she is she tells them she is Black and they actually challenge her. She told me the white folks at work have a tough time with that answer.

15 05 2008
Shine

ST you never been? It’s on the corner of 5th ave and 27th, right next to the gershwin hotel. Its small but a load of fun. And it has shop with interesting stuff. I was mad though because I needed to get another condom keychain but their’s were all in green and quite boring. But they have a great warning label about their exhibitions: Please do not touch, lick, stroke or mount the exhibits. The mounting is important I suppose because there is a working toaster penis upstairs among a few other interesting machines. Man I need to post this review soon. I’m waiting on pictures from my partner in crime.

15 05 2008
Shine

Did y’all see that mothafucka in Georgia who made those Obama ’08 curious george shirts. And then had the nerve to say he wasn’t racist.

15 05 2008
15 05 2008
Knatural

Yeah Shine. I posted the link in White Supremacy II. The nerve he had!

15 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Shine- Girl, I am still new to NYC so there is a lot of stuff I haven’t seen. The fact that I work in Jersey severely hinders my ability to check stuff out in Manhattan during the week, plus I am so in love with BK/anti-being in “the city” every other minute. I am gonna start getting up there on the weekends more tho.

WTF? Is a toaster penis? And can yall please read the FAQ response of the day? I can’t be the only one mad this AM.

15 05 2008
Shine

I responded, not really on topic. I kinda appreciate a white girl who recognizes her privelege (sp?) because its so rare. But then again white liberals often piss me off as much as white racists.

I’ll get the picture of the toaster penis and post it soon, I promise. Within 1 week. But it is pretty much what it sounds like.

I don’t know much about the city either living in Jersey, I assume anyone in the boroughs has seen and done everything. I just found out there was a botanical gardens in BK and i”m trying to get there. I’m also trying to see the superhero exhibit at the met. But the MoSex exhbidition was a day of new sex stuff for me because after that closed I went to my first burlesque show somewhere in SoHo I think. Still haven’t made it to drag bingo up here but I feel like it probably can’t compare to sunday drag brunch in Richmond, VA which seems to be the capital of the gay south. Too funny to see drag queens stopping after-church traffic in the bible belt by starting their entrance from across the street.

You know any other interesting things to do that I must not miss let me know. I’m already planning an excursion to the L. Ron hubbard house since I found it in DuPont circle near where my friend lives. I had no idea they gave tours. Although I’m kinda afraid they might do something to me when I break down laughing in there. Probably send John Travolta to my house to sit on me.

15 05 2008
Shine

exhbidition??????!!! what the hell was I spelling!?

15 05 2008
Sister Toldja

DRAG BINGO? DRAG BRUNCH???? Where have I BEEN? Dammit! I never made it up to Richmond, but that would be a damn good reason to go on my next DMV excursion. I haven’t been to the Botanical Gardens either, but my friend went last week and said it was fab. NYC in the summer is bananas. I got here in the middle last year, and I was too stressed to really enjoy it.

15 05 2008
Shine

Girl, I’m going to make it to Central park concerts this year. Last time I missed a free John Legend concert by showing up too late (3 hours before the concert). But the Nigerians dragged me to a free tribute to Fela Kuti that was good.

I wont tell you how upset I was when I realized… let me just say that my friend’s sister called her in Jersey one day (shes from BK) saying that we need to come to BK because there’s going to be a concert. She didn’t know who was there, or how much it cost but it seemed to be free. And she was waiting somewhere with a bunch of buses under and overpass waiting to get on the bus. We were doing the school thing so were mad tired. We thought it sounded sketchy and didn’t want to make the trek to brooklyn. Needless to say I cried when I finally saw Dave Chappelle’s block party. Cried buckets of tears.

Oh and tell me you’ve been to the wholesale district for all your junk jewelry, scarves, and fake purse needs. I was done when I found out about this and bought a whole bunch of jewelry for like 30$. And now I’m not upset when people steal my bangles or earrings because i’m like those bitches only cost me $2. I used to get my junk jewelry at Burlington for like $6. I take all my friends there when they visit. I think they should give me the wholesaler’s discount for all the advertising I’ve done for them.

15 05 2008
Sister Toldja

I haven’t! I have a pashmina wardrobe, courtesy of Canal Street and I have gotten some great street deals on perfume. I go to crap stores for costume jewelery, but I need to take that pilgrimage like, tonight lol.

15 05 2008
Mrs.Epps

Shine-So I finally got to the Museum of Sex a couple weeks ago and I’m about to put up my review on my blog but I thought, considering where this thread had gone, maybe someone here would enjoy these exhibitions as much as I did.
part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db9bowVZUgQ#
part 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3odbSzIXJM&feature=related#

Also Mrs. Epps said I could be queen of the gutter mind this week.

hahahahah go head girl..where is this museum?

15 05 2008
Shine

27th and 5th ave. http://www.museumofsex.com/

Also the wholesale district is on broadway (and some on 6th and 7th but most of those you need a wholesalers ID) between 33rd and 27th. Dudes can pick up sneakers there cheap too. Also there’s clothes if you’re in the average range and do hiphop gear. But I mostly go for the jewelry and scarves. And back when I wore watches I would get all my watches there for 5 dolla. If the battery dies, go back and get another one for 5 dolla. Bring cash so you can make a deal. They do accept cards though (see this type of advertising should get me a free wholesaler’s ID from someone-I mean the shit is already cheap but I still want my discount!).

15 05 2008
Shine

Oh and if anyone for some reason finds themselves in Richmond, VA on a Sunday morning. Go to Godfrey’s for the Drag Brunch, food is good and so is the show. (I mean if you like southern drag queens performing for large groups of yuppies and lesbians. I do)

15 05 2008
Knatural

so were you men taking notes, or what?

16 05 2008
london

omg.. back from a week in middle inbred england…
i nave been meaning to ask what ‘creole’ meant to you lot….. we don’t have that term here..
we have ‘light skin’….and you learn french and spanish in schoool…
thanks for the info…
i 4 posts to catch up on…. cut me some slack…

16 05 2008
london

i meant
i have 4 posts to catch up on…
i made the most of our over rail train bar service this evening….
being out in the sticks will do that to you…

18 05 2008
rai

“*No, I do not think all Creole women are pompous. Please get off my nuts.” Goddamnit!!!!!! *in tears*. . . but your girl “bey” or whatever the fawk they are callin that half of the marriage of convenience she has going on with Jay-z, is just fawkin STUPID!!!! lol no I am mean, just flat out retarded. . . like I know people always say “she is just southern”, “shes a southern belle, they are quiet and told to be seen not heard” or whatever the fawk else they say. . . like legitimately, the dumbest richest bytch EVER! lol they tell them not to talk because if they all were as articulate as this one here, I wouldn’t want to hear them either. . . being dumb is such a fawkin waste of “the pretty”

18 05 2008
Shine

Still no feedback on the advice? Hmm maybe they’re putting it to good use and don’t have time to thank you knatural

18 05 2008
jaime

Have you ever seen a picture of Beyonce when she was young? She was definitely lighter skinned than she presented herself throughout her career until now. That is undeniable.
Her natural skin tone IS that light, but she’s just been tanning herself this whole time to be more quickly accepted by the image of “Black R &B” singers. Does that sound ridiculous? Well look who we’re talking about..

Want another example? Rihanna is naturally very light-skinned, but was extremely tan during the promotion of her first two albums. Now look at her now in the new Maroon 5 video.. light as Mariah Carey (and natural too).

But you are just a product of racist America, trying to put people in a fucking box.. Well Beyonce can be whatever the fuck she wants to be. What’s the problem with being of two races and identifying with both of them?

18 05 2008
anon

@ Naijababe I am Ghanaian, and I don’t know tons of Ghanaians who are bleaching…… at least no more than the African Americans who are the most colour struck black people that I have met!.
I am a mixed race Ghanaian, and it was not until I swent to university in Atlanta that I became aware of this light skin dark skin rubbish.
Unfortunately, all this light skin , long weave, fake tits and butt lifestyle is being beamed into our living rooms courtesy of MTV, E channel, VH1 etc. etc. The youth in this part of the world see;s this and think s it’s hip to have a long blond weave…… big shame

19 05 2008
anjiebaby

@Knatural

I also contain tomatoes, peppers, onions, celery although I’m usually sopped up with a biscuit.

19 05 2008
Sister Toldja

Jaime- 1) boo. 2) Even if she were tanning before, her look has gotten Whiter. She had the cornrows and the ‘regular’ Black girl look in those early pics, and now she’s got the biggest, golden hair EVER, sometimes wears sublely shaded contacts to make her eyes look lighter and all types of contour shading and highlighting to make her facial features more european. She looks like a country music singer.

Gee whiz, I wish I had some folks in my corner that were as ride or die as Beyonce fans. If y’all put your minds to something useful, you guys could start a revolution. Unfortunately, years of Beyonce lyrics have fried your brains in to some sort of exotic creole scrambled eggs.

19 05 2008
Cup o' cafe au lait

Wow, I always read this blog, but never post….

Anyhow, I must say I can’t believe you guys sat and “conversated” (b/c no conversing seemed to have occurred) with this Creole Disaster for so long!

20 05 2008
jaime

@Sister Toldja
girl stop shes been wearing blonde weave and contacts since 2000 (you want an example? watch bootylicious video lol)

yall are fuckin ignorant.. ur trying so hard to make this crazy conspiracy but if u looked at the facts its just not true.

20 05 2008
afrocenchic

What I don’t agree with is the whole “decline of Black people” part by using certain slang words. There are people who decide what words are put in the dictionary. This process changes continuously. In addition, it must be understood that a word has meaning based not on what some old white men say it is who are in charge of dictating based on their own biased opinion what a word is or is not, but on what a society recognizes it is. For example, if a town considered the goo to mean girl and everyone understood that it means girl, then that qualifies it as a word. This is what makes different languages possible. Scientifically, inflammable and flammable mean the exact same thing. Non-flammable and flammable are opposites, why? Because some one decided that it was so and everyone else follows suit. So if I want to use the word conversating or irregardless and EVERYONE knows what I’m referring to, then what exactly is the problem? Is the problem based on the fact that “massa” didnt say it was formal based on his standard of what formal or valuable or professional means? Based on society’s standard of beauty, I’m ugly because of my African features. It’s a good thing I can see that what society views as worthy isn’t really based off of anything but Eurocentric standards, which of course wouldn’t suit me because I’m not a European descendant.

What’s contributing to our decline is the justice system in this country, the failing schools which most of our kids attend, the misorientation and europhilic/afrophobic mentality that we have in the community, not to mention the harbored mistrust that Black men and women have for one another which leads to us not being able to have a strong family structure. I’m sorry but slang words are not a real issue. Being able to talk like massa isn’t a priority for us.

I’ve been living in Louisiana my whole life. Creole is bullshit. Its not based off of anything but people who have recessive/european traits who want to be considered special and better than other darker toned Black ppl. Ive asked several of these so-called creoles what exactly defines them, and I get different answers from them. If I ask a 100 Japanese people, what’s japanese- I bet everyone will give me the same damn thing. Ask some “creoles” what is creole and they’ll say, it’s some european (spanish or french) and african mix, some will say its native american, african, and european mix, and some will say its a little bit of everything (wtf?). They will go to extremes to keep thier light skin and less kinky hair- from sleeping with their OWN COUSINS to teaching thier kids to not associate with darker skinned ppl. They will go so far as to have thier own little communities and try to keep dark black people out of them. What kind of stupid shit is that? I’ll tell you what creole is- it started with slavery when massa would rape some of our ancestors. Their offspring decided throughout the years to only procreate with other people who looking like them in order to keep the “color” in the family. Any members of the family who desired to be with a darker skinned Black person were shunned and basically kicked out of the family. Any members of the family who wanted to be with a white person were praised and looked upon with respect. These are the ppl who still to this day, try to “pass” for white. Its just another part of the many problems that will block our attempts to unite as a race in order to promote the much needed change in this country that is still locking up so many of our young males today. Ask yourself how its possible for less than half of 13 % of the pop. to really commit 40 to 60 % of the crimes in this country.

22 05 2008
Jen

I would just like to point out that I have never seen Beyonce in colored contacts and her hair is considerably darker now than it was during her initial whitening, in 2005.

Also, that isn’t the original meaning of the term “Creole”.

Finally, it is interesting to hear of this national Creole fascination. Two of my grandparents are Creole by modern definitions, and both of my parents are from Louisiana. I had no idea that anybody was stupid enough to associate such heritage with sophistication.

ALSO, I have that heritage and am quite brown skinned. I rock a fro, too.

Holler at me, self-haters.

11 06 2008
The Black Elite

Well afrocenchic, I can also think of a number of people who are identified as creoles but consider themselves black as well. CNN reporter Suzanne Malveaux comes from a ‘creole’ family but is a member of the National Association of Black Journalists and claims to represent for black folks who came before her and didn’t have the opportunities that she did/does. Since Beyonce’s family does come from Louisiana and her name is an adaptation of a French family surname, I say let her be Creole if she wants to. It is more of a cultural/ethnic affiliation than a race anyways. I especially feel this way because I think calling oneself African-American is straight up bs anyways. Unless you know that you are only African then it doesn’t fit. At least Creole implies a mélange of cultures especially French and or Spanish Ancestry. You don’t even have to have black roots to be Creole (i.e. Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie (although I don’t know with those lips)). My grandfather had light brown hair and green eyes and was Native American, various European and black. Was he African-American? Nope. Was he creole? Hell no. Was he black? Yeah, most of the time…I’m not about to go around calling myself Cablaindian but point is, calling yourself does not make you white. In most folks mind it still means black anyways. Beyonce is still one of the most beautiful and accomplished BLACK entertainers out right now and aside from the fact that she can’t give a coherent sound byte, she damn sure can sing.

20 06 2008
4m_no_2_dc

i would like to say thank you for this post…
I too, have been asked the questions: “are you mixed with something?” “are you creole?” and the most disgusting of all “do you have white people in your family?”
all of these questions were asked only after i moved to VA from new orleans. of all the dumb ass reasons people have given for asking me these questions, the most dumb ass reason someone gave me was, “well, your hair is long, and black girls just can’t grow long hair”
mind you this was a woman
mind you this woman was black….
what the fuck?
are you on crack rocks?
bitch.
unlike some, my light skin and long hair doesn’t make me want to be “mixed” “creyole” or fucking “other” …
i’m just me.
but i do love me some creole cuisine
::sigh::
i miss new orleans

4 07 2008
Angie

Where was I when this was posted?!?!?

I’m just going to save the rant about my crazy ass family that actually renounces any African American ties.

Grandma – “Oh, we’re not Black, we’re Creole”
Me – “Are you serious, Grandma? Then my caramel ass must have been a shock. Sorry Rose, but we’re nergros.”

Joy.

8 07 2008
Africanchic

I know i’m late to post this but i must.

I am as dark as it can get. Imagine growing up in east africa where ppl thought dark skin was less than beautiful (to put it mildly). i was looked at and usually questioned where i’m from b/c i couldn’t possibly be from the same country as them. and then moving to america to a predominantly black city where i definetly stuck out like a sore thumb b/c of my accent and my general looks. the most shocking experience was when a black boy approached me in high school and asked me if i was in the “white power” group. ( all i could do was look at him and ask him with my thick accent, what the fk do u think).

On the flip side, after 14yrs in america and losing most of my accent, i went back home to visit and somebody called me a nigger.

Thank God i’m happy with who i am, regardless of what the next person thinks. I am black will always be black, and damn proud of it too!

8 07 2008
Sugar

I had a friend that was dark-skinned that always used to compare herself to me. Mind you, she was pretty and she had a killer body, but she swore that I used to get the better looking guys and that they “approached me differently” just because I was light-skinned. That doesn’t even make any damn sense but she was convinced. I had to put her in her place about it eventually b/c she the shit was getting ridiculous. I’ve seen beautiful (and ugly) Black people of every color, so we really need to get over this bullshit.

I don’t usually hear Creole where I live though; around here it’s usually [in the stankest voice ever with an accompanying eye and neck roll] “I got Indian in my faaaamily.” And it’s always Cherokee for some damn reason. I mean, damn if you’re gonna lie don’t be so cliche about it.

But yea. I’ definitely agree that Beyonce isn’t helping matters. Neither is Rihanna. Remember when she first hit the scene? She was tan as hell. I’d say her transformation was even quicker than Beyonce’s, no?

Love the blog, BTW :0)

11 07 2008
O.

I have to say, although I am running the risk of being run out of town on a rail, I do have Creole blood, ( yes mom was from Louisiana and yes the family does speak it) but having said that, I also never tell anyone because I have been literally laughed at because I am obviously dark and God forbid that a dark skinned person claim their Creole blood.

It is so sad that we are still so colorstruck in this world. Pretty much when people ask me what I am, (and I do get that because of my hair texture and eyes although I am still not quite sure why) I just say I am mixed with black and blacker. They usually go away after that.

21 07 2008
Curious

I have only met two creoles in my life – and they both identified as black. I only found out after I had known them for a while. They certainly didn’t use it as a bragging point. In fact, one was an ex-boyfriend who said when he was a boy his parents said they were creole but then later said they were black, lol. The other is one of my mom’s oldest friends and her children identify as black. Fortunately, I was able to grow up without encountering the colorism (within the black community) that this blog entry addresses (racism from non-blacks I definitely encountered). The blacks who’ve whole heartedly internalized racism/colorism -I see it A LOT up here in my adopted state of MN- make me sad.

/Off topic (totally unrelated to anything Creole or from Louisiana) – it’s around lunch time and SBPH’s pic of creole food has me wondering if anyone from/around Atlanta can recommend some good places to eat, that serve genuine southern food? My mom is coming through there this Friday (she’s from the West Coast) and would like some place good to go. I told her you guys know what’s up. Thanks in advance for your responses.

21 07 2008
Curious

Oh and in case you guys are wondering, I guess I should have introduced myself. I’m a long-time lurker and I enjoy this blog, including the comments section. Ok, back to lurk status.

8 09 2008
Amy

True story: I was approached on yahoo by a random idiot who stated he wanted to “conversate” with me. After I immediately burst into a rash and made an “ugh!” face to my monitor, I typed to him that “conversate” isn’t in fact, a word; that the word he was referring to was “converse”. He shot back an “lol” to me and wrote, “ha! shows what you know – converse is a shoe.” (except he wrote it in text lingo like “showz wat u no …”

After that I simply asked him if he had spawned yet with anyone and if not, to consider doing the world a favour by discontinuing his lineage.

I only recently discovered this blog and am sorry to hear you’re ending it, but am tremendously enjoying what I’ve missed to this point.

8 09 2008
gofucurselfquisha

Her name is BEYONCE…She is fucked for LIFE (see “stupid name” blog) ! She will never be White no matter how many blond weaves she wears and Revlon commercials she does. hahahaha…I have to say , as a hi-yella bone with good hair that lives in the south, you nailed this shit down, SON !!! I disgust myself :0)

12 10 2008
babyd0ll

I mean, seriously…you don’t have to have a damn tie to Louisiana to be creole. Ever heard of Sierra Leone? Stay in school, people.

15 10 2008
ciaochowbella

ROFLMFAO!

Creole….I live in south Arkansas and travel extensively in Louisiana and lemme tell y’all a little something…..NO REAL CREOLE PERSON CALLS HIM/HERSELF “CREOLE”. They either call themselves black or white. Period. If asked, they might expound upon their racial heritage, but otherwise, it’s snooty, self-loathing, Yankee heffas who want to call themselves “Creole”.

Fuck a damn Yankee bitch up her ass.

I’m gonna go have me some crawfish etouffe and a HUGE margarita now.

15 10 2008
ciaochowbella

“Conversate” is considered a slang word…..unfortunately. It’s right up there with “orientate”, “irregardless”, “snuck” and “woken”.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conversate

17 10 2008
Keepin' It Real

First of all, Beyonce and her mother can say that they are creole all they want to but really they are just light skin black. They have neither the style, taste, or breeding to try and say that they are upper class or creole. Beyonce can stop it. She’s married to a satan worshiping (see youtube) thug, routinely massacres the english language and keeps the fashion police working over time with the mess that her and her mother call “fashion”. She is blessed that God gave her a good voice because with her complete lack of education and fashion sense she would be nothing more than a two bit Bourban street hooker giving bl*w jobs in the back of the alley. And Beyonce has had plastic surgery. So if everyone wants to go around saying they are creole they too can get fake eyes, get plastic surgery to skin lightening pills, dye their tracks blond and check other in racial box. I think that real reason that many black people in america want to check this box is because we didn’t inherit a sophistocated French culture and attitude but a crass low class english one. Sorry but most people in america were the poor rejects of europe not the sophistocated upper class ones. Conversely, I have been to france and while it was nice, its a little overated because water, soap and toothpaste to french people are like intelligence to george w. bush, an anomoly.

18 10 2008
Carla

Hello, I just recommended your site on Stumble Upon. Please keep telling the truth, because if you don’t nobody will. African Americans wonder why we are down to only 12% in population, it is simply because the majority hate themselves. They wonder why we don’t rule, it is simply because black people are constantly wasting time on what they’re mixed with, rather than spending time on politics. They have made their whole conversation about who maybe white in their bloodline, skin shades and everything else similar for decades. Who in their right mind don’t get sick of this stuff? Blessings to you, my brother or sister.

17 11 2008
Lil Crawford

I HEAR ya..Problem is, Blacks have degraded themselves into “a non-white THROWAWAY category” as opposed to a legitimate Ethnic group.

Contrary to popular self-perception, today’s Black Community doesn’t even TOUCH authentic Blackness..all u gotta due is compare KRS-ONE & FIFTY CENT!

What happened to Africa Medallions, Hi-Top Fades & 120?..THAT, if ANYTHING, was BLACK!! No WONDER Lightskin Niggaz is goin’ back to bein’ Creole! CREOLES STILL GOT ‘KULCHA’!

30 11 2008
Rob

Fucking brilliant. You sir have made my day.

2 12 2008
BEYONCE alll DAY

You dumby. First of all Beyonce doesn’t go skipping around yelling out that she’s creole. Second of all what ever reason her skin is getting lighter doesn’t have anything to do with the other people and she not getting lighter to get more caucasian fans(what a stupid thought). And maybe if you watch The beyonce expierence you would clearly see that most of her back up dancers are either Caucasian and diffrent toned affrican americans. Just know that today you pissed me off because you sound like and idiot trying to sound like you know who beyoncce really is or what she believes. But I do see what your saying. Most Black people don’t execpt there tone or their natural hair but don’t make other people seem like their trying to be “better” than everyone else because that’s not cool.

2 12 2008
BEYONCE alll DAY

and another thing they are creole so “Keepin’ It Real” how about you keep your mouth closed because you sound really dumb. You act like you trace back beyonce roots or some crap like that an just because your not from Louisiana doesn’t mean that your ancestors aren’t from there so SHUT UP

6 12 2008
K Dizzle

Creole Beauty = Look at all the bitter ass haters. Grimm is right,all of you angry black hoes are mad because you want to be Creole but you can’t. I’m a proud Creole woman with beautiful green eyes and light brown hair. All the men love me and I have no shame for the way I look. Wealthy men are always trying to court me. While you bitter average whores have to open your legs to get some attention.
-Sista Toldja, I saw your picture in another thread and you look like a cheap hoe and are not light skin. Too bad for you.
-Muse you are a bully and are an ugly black bitch hating on Grimm. You look like aunt jemima. Nappy headed foul mouth hooker
-Chris you would be thirsty for me but I wouldn’t date you because you probably have bad genes and you are losing your hair.
-The rest of you are some wannabes. While I’m on my yacht you losers can spend all day on the net.
-Grimm don’t let these ugly hoes tear you down baby girl. Do you and make us Creoles proud!

I’ll do the honors of translating this:

Lawdy, I’se had so much trouble wit’ dem field nigras! Dem field wenches dem sho’ do hait me! Massa, him sed that I’se his best house nigra. Dat’s cos I looks so much like dem dere gud white folk. All dem field nigras out dere dem dun like us house nigras cos massa him give us so much speshul treets an’ him even let me sleep in de bed wif him wen missus is gone an’ I’se likes it so much cos I’se wanna have some white pickaninnies an’ dey can work in de house too! All dem field niggars dem wan’ green eyes just like me an’ massa and missus an’ my nice clothes the missus dem give me and people dem seys I looks so fine de most pretty house wench dem ever seed almos’ jus’ like missus wif my white skin but dey say Creole an’ a gud house wench. I’se sho’ do love how dem white folk look! I’se love my pretty white color cos I’se likes to stay in de house an’ serve massa and missus when it hawt. wen dem haffi work dey black ass in de field picking de cotton my mulatto sista she yella she work in de house too she he’p massa wen I’se cain’t sleep in his bed cos of my mont’ly time an’ all de field wenches I no all of dem just mad cos dey wanna come in de house and serve massa bot NO! Nobody ain’t takin’ me ‘way I wanna serve my massas an’ all de gud white folk dey allus come to de house an’ I serve dem cos dey don’t like de field wenches dey say I look mo’ like missus not like dem field wenches but better so I’se a Creole house wench I’se work in de house not like dem field nigra wenches ugly cos dem don’t look like missus like me an’ my sista so even I sed to my sista be careful from dem field wenches cos dem wanna start trouble an’ stay close to massa and love de white folk cos dey give us Creoles a gud life here as slaves Lawd yes dey do.

6 12 2008
K Dizzle

For the fool who doesn’t think that dark-skinned black women are attractive, Google any of these women, all 10’s in my book:

Gaye McDonald, whose face and skin is perfect.

Jessica White, Victoria’s Secret

the exquisite Oluchi, up-and-coming supermodel, also Victoria’s Secret:

My girl Nnenna Agba, from ANTM

Actress Aisha Tyler

Actress Nicole Fiscella:

and of course, I can’t forget my girl Naom Campbell

6 12 2008
creoleprincess

creole has nothing to do with class or color, it is about culture and heritage. bey is PART creole, but i agree that is annoying for people who have no knowledge of creole history to adopt it as their identity or assume it is the same as mulatto or red skin or whatever other terms are used to describe lightskinned people.

6 12 2008
creoleprincess

And by the way, k dizzle, most Creoles of Color were Free People of Color. I.e. not slaves of any kind, field or house, and spoke perfect French (not broken English as you suggested by your “translation”). Unlike freedmen, Louisiana’s FPC represented the largest population of free blacks in the South, and the wealthiest. Unfortunately, also the largest slave holding black population.

15 12 2008
Leah

I do agree with the stupidity of ppl claiming to be “creole” to to make themselves feel better, because it makes it bad on the rest of us (you know the girls who really are).
I for one am part creole (my father is a full blooded creole) I just don’t go around waving as my badge of honor. I only told two ppl in my entire life time (every one else I meet just argue with me when I say “No, I’m not mixed”). I’ve never tried to use my heritage as a badge of honor, because I never felt better then anyone. I actually fell out with one of my friends who felt the need to tell everyone guy I met that I was creole (which led to ignorant comments like “I heard you mess with them Creole girls you wake up without your drawls”. . .SMDH). I think its education that these chicks lack, and confidence. Their mothers needed to sit them down at a young age and teach them to be comfortable in their own skin, because that’s what it seems like to me. When you have to pretend to be something you are not you are truly hating yourself. Because growing up in the neighborhood I did, I had to fight all the time, because of the length and texture of my hair and the color of my skin for so long I fought what I was because i wanted to fit in with the other girls. It wasn’t until high school that I begin to accept my heritage and not care about being called white girl or having girls swear me up and down I had weave somewhere in mt head. So don’t put us all down because of the ignorance of a few.

7 01 2009
Mrs.Esprit

As a creole lady I am proud to be creole and associate myself with other likewise creoles in my family and my community. My cousin was creole Zydeco performer Beau Jocque he was and still is the best. I am a brown skinned woman with grandparents who were French, Native American , Spanish , African American and Scottish. The mlost prominent being French , African , and Native American.

Our last names are Esprit/Espree
Chargois
Cormier
Bellard
Mouton
Guillory

My family is from Oplelousas LA , Lake Charles, Lafayette , New Orleans, Duralde, Eunice, Baton Rouge, Ville Platte, Also Beaumont Texas , Houston, Dallas and Port Arhtur. I live in Los Angeles which is by the way the second largest populated city other than the state of Louisiana which has the hugest population of creoles.

7 01 2009
Mrs.Esprit

But I identify myself as a black woman , I am black .

7 01 2009
Mrs.Esprit

I am black with creole heritage.

9 01 2009
MR. DEREON

well hollywood is ran by the “jews”. along with the media to by more than one white man.

17 01 2009
MR. DEREON

by the way what about those “VIDEOS VIXEN”. like (ashalee albar & chelsea diznee) they are mixed, with french or some other race, & nobody is getting mad about that.

19 01 2009
AFroCreoRican

WOW! Why all the hate some of us can not help what we are!SORRY!

19 01 2009
MR. DEREON

thats very true, cause some peoples seems to don’t understand that.

5 02 2009
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6 02 2009
MR. DEREON

i see some peoples stop by.

19 02 2009
Jj

Creyola my assi hatethat dumb shit

19 02 2009
MR. DEREON

i’m sure they feel the same way about you.

19 02 2009
AFROCREORICAN

ONCE AGAIN WHY ALL THE HATE,FOLKS LIKE MYSELF CANT HELP BUT WONDER..I DID NOT ASK TO HAVE A BLACK FATHER AND A CREOLE AND PUERTO RICAN MOTHER..SO SHOULD I HAVE THE SAME HATE FOR YOU AS YOU ARE NOT OF SUCH AN AMAZING MIXTURE OF CULTURES..I CLAIM ALL OF MY ETHNICITY AND I AM ALSO TEACHING MY CHILDREN WHOM HAPPEN TO HAVE A MEXI-RICAN FATHER TO LOVE THEMSELVES AS WELL BUT ITS IGNORANCE LIKE THIS THAT ARE JEOPARDIZING PEOPLE OF COLOR PERIOD….WE HAVE A BI RACIAL PRESIDENT PEOPLE TIME TO PUT DOWN THE PAPER BAGS AND UNITE!

22 02 2009
MR. DEREON

amen,

22 02 2009
day

Hey, let me pull a card for a second. I’m creole. My family originated in cane river and I still speak the language although I was raised in New York. I defend the right to say that I am creole because when I tell you that I am telling you that I have my own brand of soul food. I am telling you that I still believe in the African gods. I am telling you so that you know that my cheekbones are not implants from the good doctor. I am telling you that I can go from prim and proper to insane in twenty seconds. I am telling you that I listen to zydeco and I don’t want you calling it white people music. I am telling you that Louisiana is my home. Being creole has nothing to do with being light skinned with “good” hair. Yes, it comes with the territory in many cases but don’t ridicule what you don’t understand. A lot of the women who write kreyole on applications are spelling it the way it is spelled in Haiti and other parts of the Carribbean. There are also Cape Verdeans who refer to themselves as creole, so don’t blame it on Louisiana.

22 02 2009
MR. DEREON

I know, i’m not helping but i agree.

6 03 2009
TpAU

To the Nigerian girl , the european standard of beauty is grossly overated in NIGERIA !!! even in schools… a child, stduent who is either white, mixed ,indian are paid more attention to..why do u think bleaching is grossly overrated..its hilarious even in india, its worse !!! its everywhere this light skin complex..European features are definatley overrated.. Light skin, light skin..its annoying ….

26 03 2009
Kat

So “Creole” is what the young mixed race looking Black women who don’t want to be Black refer to themselves as nowadays. Blacks with unBlack features in my youth used to just deny being Black at all. They didn’t say Creole, or anything else – they “passed for white.” You saw them dining in restaurants and enjoying services in establishments the average Black couldn’t go in. If they saw you, they prayed you wouldn’t speak to them because they were usually surround by white people. They would look away very quickly. I grew up at the very end of segregation and certain Black people running from Black racial affiliation isn’t new. It is damn sad though.

25 04 2009
hautecoco

As a Woman of Color, it is sad to see that we as a culture still try to hide who we are. We are some the most beautiful people ever to grace the planet. Other cultures wish they could be like us. Why cant we just accept who we are and put the past behind us? Who gives a rats ass how LIGHT your skin is? I am proud of my ancestry and heritage but that doesn’t take away from the fact that I am Proud to be BLACK! Let’s move on.. New topic please!!

2 06 2009
John Doe Gorilla

I’m gonna talk simple to you folk so you can get some knowledge up on in y’alls nigga noggins.

Even if blacks lived on Planet Niggatard and they were the only ones there…. and then you had another planet called Planet Honkeytard where only honkeys lived… Guess what would happen if the Honkeytards built a spaceship and landed on Planet Niggatard?

The white folk would see the black folk and they’d see the niggas as ugly. Why? Because it’s just nature. Ie, do you prefer a bright clear sky or a black cloudy sky? It’s just nature. It’s the color spectrum. Let me put it this way. You put the finest black woman and the finest white woman in front of a black man… and who is the black man going to want to fuck? Even if the nigga hates the honkeys to kingdom come, dat nigga is gonna try to rape the white bitch. That’s just how it is.

By the way, the blacks planet would never be able to build a space ship. And if they landed on Planet Honkeytard, they’d bring about destruction, crime, gangs, etc. The white arriving to the black planet would colonize the niggas, enslave them so that the nigs would have a chance at acting civilized…. and organized cities would floroush.

This is just how it is. A cat is a cat. A dog is a dog. A nigga is a nigga.

But go on, go ahead. Straighten out your hair and jive talk all you want… eat your chicken and babble your nigger nonsense at barber shops. Niggas won’t be any different 700 years from now. The future of a nigga is to be a nigga just like the future of a dog is to be a dog. It’s pretty simple, really.

God bless.

27 06 2009
abw

Day, and you are entitled to do this since YOU ARE-creole-if you are. You seem to be saying you are so I take your word for it! You are “well” within your right to rep your culture provided you really are CREOLE. That goes for anybody that is truly this! I “do” notice differences between Creole and Anglo African American culture with no problem because both are rich and vibrant. The author of the article said as much-that the creole culture is distinct and real- in the first paragraph. It is when you ARE NOT, then it becomes ridiculous. I personally think that Beyonce IS what she say she is, and that he is mistaken for going too hard on her-but his criticism of pseudo-FAKE-Creoles-i.e. typical run of the mill, garden variety, lightskin Anglo African Africans that are NOT is not off the mark. This has been happening more and more and it is not only funny and silly at times,it is sad and ridiculous. Personally, I also think that he exaggerates like another poster when he says that Beyonce is trying to run from being black, but I have noticed a trend myself where the more successful a star becomes the lighter they get. So here again, even if I think he picked the wrong target, he ain’t all that off the mark with his generation observation! Again, my only complaint is who he picked, not his point. To the extent Beyonce do half of this, it is because that seem to me to be the trend in her line of work more than self hatred. But being that she is so visible and possibly responsible for contributing to what the man criticizes, I see why he picked even though I have doubts about his choice. Self hatred ain’t a total impossibility but most of this to me seems to be following what is popular! If this post offend some of the Creole posters, I truly am sorry. I am sure some of y’all have been the possible target of envy from ignorant non-Creoles. But speaking as a non-Creole African American, this mess occasionally annoys the devil out of me because it is often use in a tone to convey or way to imply that this person is above the ordinary Anglocentric African American person. Especially if that person is darkskinned. Therein lies the problem! As if being a non-Creole African American is a bad thing. BTW, many Creoles were some of the earliest free people, but they paid a cost for this-one cost being that many women risked rape or had to endure the octoroon balls to be granted these priviledges.

27 06 2009
abw

The poster above me John Doe Gorilla, can spare us all.
If whitefolks landed on Planet Niggatard, they would try to take it over through theft of resources, land and even labor. Successful or unsuccessful in this regard, they would buy neighborhoods on Planet Niggatard to segregate themselves in where they would open business like suntan businesses and cosmetic surgery clinics/hospitals for but and lip injections because they hate how they look and wish to look like the people they openly profess to despise. People they despise because on some level they envy them. But that’s not all, you can depended on them not only creating crime where it did not exist or furthering the crime already in existence, you can depend on them bring organized crime elements because they would probably be doing the same thing at home. You can also depend on a white person blaming the residents of Planet Niggatard for the problems of Planet Honkytard-regardless of if there are few Niggard residents in Honkytard, or no mass migration to the said place, because to do otherwise would mean they risk having to shoulder personal responsibility, hence personal initiative in solving the problems they brought on themselves on their own planet!If they somehow could not get away with blaming Niggatard folks for their problems, they would create a scapegoat-anything but taking initative in solving their own problem. Sad facts, but such is life.

10 07 2009
Cruz

GREAT POST!!!
Sad thing is there are people out there who look like what Beyonce TRIES to look like and are seen as “racially ambiguous”. Why is she taking over their identity with weaves, lighting & photoshop?!
She was not born with light skin or blond hair or caucasian features. Why photoshop your way into someone else’s existence? EVERYONE has their own concerns and issues dealing with their body image. The grass is not always greener on the other side. White people will never see her as non-Black (maybe that’s her ultimate goal), so why not embrace being NATURAL so that others who look like you can have a role model. There are too many Paris Hilton’s in the media…………..

10 07 2009
Cruz

And another note,
WHY THE CONSTANT discussion on what someone’s great great great…grandfather is? Is it because just being “Black” is too boring for some people? What does the mirror tell you when the lacefront comes off? That’s really the answer…..
Almost everyone can claim some sort of mix. What if the entire world went in uproar about what race they really are? Its basically about what your dominating features are. Beyonce is Black…whether she likes it or not. There are highly mixed people out there who can pass for anything and the trend is now to play dress-up to be “ambiguous”.

QUESTION:
Why do white people just say “white” (even though they can be mixed down the line). Why is it only in the African American culture that there are such ridiculous debates about — skin color, hair texture, size of nose, lips, etc….
This needs to be changed to promote a POSITIVE view on racial identity…….

16 07 2009
Adanna

Forgot to mention Miss ‘Beyo’ is also a phony.

22 09 2009
Randy

Did anyone else notice how WHITE she appeared in her Halo music video? The lighting couldn’t have been more manipulated. I showed my friend who is socially retarded, and knew nothing about Beyonce… poor child thinks I’m lying that she is a black woman.

4 10 2009
Say What?

Cruz brings up an excellent point…
Nowadays, it’s all about self-identification, or it SHOULD be. If someone self-identifies as “creole” “mixed” “bi-racial”, what the fuck does it have to do with YOU? Blacks are just as guilty as perping the racist “one-drop” rule as much as racist crackers. And don’t feed me that line of shit about it uniting us politically or socially, because it hasn’t, or else we wouldn’t be arguing about it right now. It all needs to STOP.

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