Subtle Racism III: Asian Chicks

9 04 2008

There are exactly five categories of asian women in America*:

  1. Ones that only date asian people (35%)
  2. Ones that only date white people (35%)
  3. Ones that will date outside their race, but only if they’re white (20%)
  4. Ones that freely date anyone of any race (1%)
  5. Ones that date anyone of any race, but consider it a public service (9%)

Category 5 is the one I’m going to jump up and down on today.

I’ve had the pleasure (and misfortune) of dating exactly four asian women, one of whom I nearly married. My skin color left me eligible only to the ten percent in categories 4 and 5, and unfortunately only one of them was in category 4.

The one category 4 girl had a hard life growing up. Both her parents were killed in Vietnam while trying to escape the country during the war. As such, this girl grew up with a very low bullshit tolerance that, among many other things, kept her from being willing to filter her dating pool based on race. She also views the war as the fault of white people – so unlike many asian females, she never bought into the idea of superiority of the white male (see Subtle Racism I)***.

Figure 1: You prefer THIS GUY over an asian dude?!?!?!?!?

The other three chicks were category 5’s. Being slow as I am sometimes, I didn’t even realize that category 5 existed until fairly recently when I unexpectedly found myself with a lot of free time to think. I know there are some black men reading this blog that are dating asian women. I hope I’m not blowing up your spot or anything, but take a moment to examine the following warning signs that you might be dating a Cat 5:

  • She tells you that none of her friends date black people
  • She tells you she had apprehensions about dating black people
  • She tells you her parents don’t approve of her dating you
  • She tells you about how often she defends her relationship with you to her parents and/or friends

Granted, there’s nothing wrong with a girl telling you these things in and of themselves. There’s also nothing wrong with the girl telling you these things if you happen to ask. What’s wrong about these statements is her motivation in telling you when she does so a.) for no apparent reason, or b.) when you get in an argument with her.

All four of the statements above have a single sentence as their lowest common denominator:

“I am doing your black ass a favor by being so kind as to date you.”

This statement is two parts racist, one part hubris. I’ve dated women of every race on the planet (except for middle-easterners), and my experience has been that this “doing you a favor” attitude is held ONLY by Cat 5 asian women. This can be blamed on exactly three things:

  1. White men
  2. Jim Kelly
  3. Viacom

White dudes have been obsessed with asian women ever since the occupation of Japan after WWII. Japanese women were an exotic, submissive, and a swanky alternative to Rosie-inspired American women who were justifiably asserting more and more independence and putting up with less and less bullshit.

Figure 2: Personally…I’ll take Rosie.

Cold War conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia gave them even more yellow fever as refugees poured into the U.S. and made them easily accessible. Today, an asian woman is the most highly coveted prize of a white man, which is ironic because of how easy it is for them to obtain this prize. Asian girls will date virtually ANY white dude no matter how ugly he is and no matter how much of a jerk he is; the only thing that matters is that he’s white and a yuppie. For white people, finding an asian woman to date is like finding water in the ocean.

Black men have never been obsessed with asian women; it’s been more of a fascination. It started with Jim Kelly in Enter the Dragon – specifically the scene with him lounging around in his kung fu pimp hut with a flock of hot asian chicks from Hai Phong or some shit (anybody else find it fucked up that the only black character in Enter the Dragon was lynched?).

Figure 3: God hates you.

Anyhow, Viacom took over after that. Every tritely sexual black music video since 1994 has included semi-nude asian girls (or black girls with ‘chinky eyes’) re-enacting the kung fu pimp hut scene of Enter the Dragon in some form or another, pushing an asian ideal of female beauty on black men that we don’t even really accept in the first place.

Figure 4: This is NOT what we should be shooting for.

This six-decade epidemic of yellow fever has left the modern asian woman with a sense of her own beauty as overinflated as a black woman’s is underinflated. Anyone that’s ever been to a mixed club has experienced the stratospheric ego of even the ugliest asian female. But while they have a humble attitude toward white men (who they view as superior), they have a princess-and-the-pauper attitude when it comes to black dudes (who they view as inferior). What makes this so infuriating is the fact that, beyond having a college degree, 99% OF ASIAN WOMEN DON’T HAVE ANYTHING BLACK MEN WANT:

  • Booty
  • Boobs
  • Lips
  • Skin tone between honey and dark dark chocolate
  • Rhythm
  • Humility
  • Basic knowledge of (good) hiphop, r&b, neo-soul, jazz, and black theater
  • Basic knowledge of social, economic, and political issues confronting black people
  • Cooking skills
  • A sense of humor

While I and other black men like me, notwithstanding the fact that we aren’t white, have EVERYTHING they want…

  • Height
  • Lips (asian girls don’t admit they want this)
  • Butt (asian girls don’t admit they want this)
  • Rhythm
  • “Street Cred”
  • Wit
  • High income
  • College degree
  • Culture
  • Appreciation for the classical arts

My new purpose in life is to, on behalf of every asian man and black man subjected to an asian girl’s bullshit, be an unmitigated asshole to these women for as long as I live.

I need a black girlfriend, a bottle of wine, and whole lot of fucking therapy.

*This is according to the research firm Carlyle, Fisk & Rhodes**
**This research firm does not actually exist
***It should be noted that her sister did buy into it, and is dating the 2nd stupidest looking white man I have ever seen

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344 responses

9 04 2008
Lady

One question and then on to my comment, what is the difference between numbers two and three? Whether or not they’d admit it?

On to the comment.. The only place i’ve seen black men and asian women ‘date’ really is in Jamaica.. and then the tables have kind of turned, because it is the Jamaican man dating the coolie woman. Granted I wasn’t in Jamaica that long, but long enough to see a few examples of this and have my grandmother fill my head with a whole bunch of mess about the coolie chinaman and the coolie indians dem.

Over here asian women avoid black men like the plague. They either won’t date asian men because thats who their parents want them to date, or they have their own self-hate issues. Marrying a white man is like the jackpot for them, they act like his ass is doing them a huge favor by marrying and accepting them and giving them children who have *just* enough asian features. I have one asian friend, and we’ve just became friends recently but the insight she gives me about the culture is amazing. Nothing I can get from reading.

Plus she tells me the good times to go Canal St. for the hook up..

9 04 2008
Lolo

I’m a 4 and still ended up marrying a bigheaded white guy with no dancing ability. I blame it on being afraid of black women because you have not truly experience the fear until you go to the club with your man and know that the women would pay money to slap you roundeyed for having the nerve to take one of their finer chances of Mr. Right. White women are used to their men being rice chasers and have learned to let it slide on by.

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

“I need a black girlfriend, a bottle of wine, and whole lot of fucking therapy.”

*Slow clap*

Question- given the list of things Black men want that Asian women don’t have….what is the attraction? Is it the submissiveness (percieved or real) or the fact that White men want them too?

To that list, could you add something like “Ages gracefully”. Old Asian women tend to morph in to trolls (so do some Latinas).

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“…slap you roundeyed…”

That is the funniest damn thing I’ve ever heard. Chicken Jon is going to hear this from me CONSTANTLY from now on.

“…Question- given the list of things Black men want that Asian women don’t have….what is the attraction?”

The asian girls I dated were genuinely pretty girls who, at least at first, had fantastic attitudes, which is what initially attracted me. Many asian girls definitely have something to offer, but they don’t have so much to offer (especially to black men) that warrants the bigheadedness you see from way too many of them. The hubris is where my anger starts.

9 04 2008
Machete

ROTFLMAO @ “Old Asian women tend to morph in to trolls”

9 04 2008
Lolo

@Sister Toldja
NO idea what that’s about other than we’re just a different flavour, you know? I’ve never personally known a single “submissive” asian woman and honestly now, we have some man asses on us. I mean, we can look cute and all but uh, we all have ass like 12 year old boys.

Chris, you do that and also, maybe sometime when Chicken Jon is numb enough from the drink you could slap him roundeyed for me for all those asian guys who wouldn’t date an asian girl cuz they were too bent on chasing some floppy titted, pasty white girl with bleached blonde hair.

Not that I’m bitter.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Wow Chris, this was deep…I felt the pain on this one.

“She tells you that none of her friends date black people
She tells you she had apprehensions about dating black people
She tells you her parents don’t approve of her dating you
She tells you about how often she defends her relationship with you to her parents and/or friends ”

I hope to this your response was “Fuck you” 🙂

Thank you for this one:
“This six-decade epidemic of yellow fever has left the modern asian woman with a sense of her own beauty as overinflated as a black woman’s is underinflated.”
That’s sweet

And to Lolo damn right, tell all your girls to stay away from my future husband too! 😀 , I’m serious clown.

9 04 2008
Esquire

I often wondered the REAL attraction.

I’ve never met ONE black woman attracted to an asian man. Although I was slightly impressed with Chicken Jon…something about a man who loves chicken.

lol @sister toldja…trolls? dayum. Good thing black dont crack.

And Chris…quit fronting like you dont have the honeys all over you.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

BTW Rosie is Hot!

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Lolo- LOL! Well, if it makes you feel better, not ALL Black girls have big old round butts! *hangs head and curses White blood*

Dead @ “floppy tittied White girls”! BWAHAHAHA! It’s funny how we all kinda resent everyone else, isn’t it? I wonder if the Asian boys are just retaliating. Where I grew up, I RARELY saw two Asian people together, unless they were Indian. You know what I have noticed? Young Asian couples always look happy as hell! Like, exceedingly happy. Why is that?

Co-sign with Anmarie. Congrats on the nuptuals….now keep your sister away from my potential man!

9 04 2008
Lady

There are some Asian men who I’ve found attractive in the past, (mostly pacific Asian, I think it’s the darker skin) but the height always ruined it for me. I have yet to meet one over 5′ 7″. It probably doesn’t help that I’m 6′..

Tina Turner, Angela Basset, Janet Jackson, Stacey Dash(even though she’s still relatively young) & Lynn Whitfield are good examples of good black not cracking.. although i believe a few people in this mix have had some surgical alterations..

It also helps that we have full lips, so when we get old and wrinkly it doesnt look like we have an asshole on our faces.

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“what is the difference between numbers two and three? Whether or not they’d admit it?”

Category 2 dates white people and only white people. Category three prefers to date asian people, but if they feel they MUST go outside of their race, the man must be white.

“I have yet to meet one over 5′ 7″”

Chicken Jon is 5′ 10″.

9 04 2008
Sylvia/M

hahahaha, for that list, you must not be talking about pinays and sri lankans and laotians. melanin, love of food, and great personalities.

this post does crack me up because i’m thinking of the dorky otakus that straight up track asian women in the hopes that if they bother them long enough, they’ll both magically transform into anime characters or teleport to geisha houses.

9 04 2008
D

I am an Asian man and this entry is pretty much on point with many Asian girls. Of course I have no idea what it feels like for a black man to be dating one of these chicks, but I can imagine the frustration. I am from the DC area and have recently moved to NYC and I am convinced that this is a DC Asian girl thing. Asian girls in DC are a different breed completely, not very open minded and many, if not MOST of them, have been quoted, “I only date white guys.” Pretty infuriating from an Asian man’s perspective. However, ever since moving to NY, I find that Asian girls are a lot more open-minded here and are open to dating whatever race comes their way. A glimmer of hope I suppose.

Might I offer some defense for the other Asian girls out there:

* Booty (def not up to par with a Black man’s standards)
* Boobs (you will be surprised sometimes, I know I have)
* Lips (better than white people)
* Skin tone between honey and dark dark chocolate (can’t help that)
* Rhythm (could use work)
* Humility (I believe this applies to all girls of all colors, esp in groups)
* Basic knowledge of (good) hiphop, r&b, neo-soul, jazz, and black theater (some do)
* Basic knowledge of social, economic, and political issues confronting black people (Everyone has some knowledge of this, although do Black folks know about Asian-American struggles/issues?)
* Cooking skills (depends on the type of food you like, there are some good cooks out there)
* A sense of humor (you might be right on this one)

Personally, I love black women, they are the only group who will definitely show you love in the club.

9 04 2008
Lady

Oh ok, I get it now.

Get out, 5′ 10″ huh? If he was Filipino I’d be even more amazed.. about 70% of the Asian men i’ve been attracted to were Filipino..

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“Everyone has some knowledge of this, although do Black folks know about Asian-American struggles/issues?”

Somewhat. http://bitterasianmen.com/ 😛

I clearly need to move to NYC.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

“Personally, I love black women, they are the only group who will definitely show you love in the club.”

Thank you, I have a middle eastern friend that says the same thing. These black men on here are acting like we live to play them. I don’t know all black women but my group of friends (big group) are some pretty wonderful and friendly mofos.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

“I clearly need to move to NYC.”

Clearly.

9 04 2008
Han X

chicken jon is not only 5’10, but has the dick of a python. i attribute it to all the hennessy he dranks, fried chicken he consumes and his love for old school hiphop

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Chicken Jon… Is that you?

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Pythons…don’t have dicks. What are you saying about my friend, you cock monkey?

9 04 2008
Uhura

Lolo-you are TOO funny….

I just abotu fell out of my chair reading your comments…

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I THINK I AM GOING TO FUCKING CRY!



9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Is he saying he has a long dick, as in long like a python?

In that case, I am guessing this IS Chicken Jon. Nice to meet you, we’ve heard such…..interesting things!

@ Chris or someone else equally knowledgeable- I read somewhere, can’t remember where, that the WHITE MAN created the small penised, sexually weak Asian man stereotype in the early 20th century. Asian men were gaining favor with White women, who are always looking for something exotic. It was like the whole “Latin Lover” explosion a few years back. Anyway, having failed to keep White women away from Black men with the huge-penised, sexually insatiable stereotype (because what smart woman hears “big dick and likes it rough” and doesn’t want to try?), the WHITE MAN decided to change it up a little bit and try to emasculate the Asian man instead.

Has anyone ever heard this before? Or did I make up a FABULOUS conspiracy?

@ D- Rock on, buddy. But I have to challenge you one one point, RE: knowledge of the Black person’s struggle. Everyone may know that Sean Bell got shot, but I wouldn’t say everyone knows key things about us. See: white people being shocked by Obama’s pastor stating what 80% of all Black people think and feel on a daily basis.

9 04 2008
benjie

“Personally, I love black women, they are the only group who will definitely show you love in the club.”

you are the first asian man that i have ever come across that said that. i’ve always wanted to date an asian (well, actually i always wanted to date all races of men. like a benetton ad… it hasn’t happened yet) i’ve always had a thing for filipinos (i blame ernie reyes jr. in surf ninjas)

and chris i agree with esquire. you know all the offers are flooding in. i can imagine your inbox

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate
9 04 2008
coolie tyrant

Sister Toldja – much appreciated. Just to clarify, not saying we know everything there is to know about Black culture/history/etc. However I do believe that America has become more aware of certain Black issues/struggles (due to school, strong Black leaders, etc). There are ignorant people out there for sure and there is still a bit to go (ie the details behind the Sean Bell incident as well as that Obama fact) Comparatively, Asian issues do not really make the media (except for that crazy Korean and Vtech).

The white man created several stereotypes and has been holding down every racial group in America. I’m sure you’re well aware of African-American examples, but as for Asian-Americans…
1) Mickey Rooney’s yellow face performance in Breakfast at Tiffany’s.
2) Creating the “Yellow Peril” in the early 1900s with the Fu ManChu character.
3) Every Hollywood movie where the Asian man does not get the girl.

Oh well…tough break.

9 04 2008
Lolo

@Anmarie

I’ll do what I can but no promises. There are just some men that are worth risking a beating for, in my book. Mmmm Tyson, TJ Holmes, Djimon …. we’ll swap you Rick Yune, Daniel Dae Kim and John Cho for a night?

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Wha…wha…what kindda deal is that?…I’m utterly confused and dismayed. NO! I’m gonna start dating Asian men then ask you if you want Neo for a night as a consolation prize. You girl leave my Djimon alone.

9 04 2008
Lady

Was funny as hell…

9 04 2008
Lolo

Neo?? That is loooow, although if he could keep his mouth shut I might try some for twenty minutes. Shit, Neo …. that’s like if I offered you Kravitz.

MmmmmDjimon, although I don’t see how either of us could manage to dislodge Kimora the Remora.

9 04 2008
Lady

This makes more sense now.. I was thinking Matrix Neo, not Neyo the singer..

*sucks teeth* Please.. Ne-yo don’t want no fish…

Djimon is sexual chocolate personified.

And uh.. Kravitz? I’d smash.

9 04 2008
brran1

The only asian person I think i could date is Amerie (even though she’s dropped off the side of the planet within the past year). other than that, im gonna pass on the asian girls…idk but maybe its something about coming home to a house reeking of rice and egg foo yung everyday…*shudders* ill pass.

9 04 2008
benjie

i thought amerie was a blasian

doesn’t the one drop rule count for her as well?

9 04 2008
Lady

Amerie = Korean & Black, just like Kimora… two totally different looks though huh? Well Kimora is 1/4 Korean 1/4 Japanese and 1/2 black, but still..

9 04 2008
Lolo

@brran, egg foo yung is something the chinese slaves on the railroads invented so that they could spit boogers in the food, fry it up and laugh at the fools that would eat it. It’s not chinese but there are chinese dishes that are far nastier.

9 04 2008
imaG

Lol I’m feeling this post man, keep up the killa work

http://www.anythingblack.net

9 04 2008
Dump

Dimwitted Asian women have the best snatch!

9 04 2008
shabooty

asian chicks i run into these days are pretty much like white girls …azn paris hiltons… young and dumb with a hint of yellow.
huzzah!

9 04 2008
brran1

She is blasian, as is Kimora and that one chick that was the Ho in ATL.

Thanks for the heads up LoLo. I think ill just stick with West Indian Food.

9 04 2008
letinstar

so, the experience of dating asian women…is that a positive or a negative? i had chinese friends in high school and not ONE of them was docile or submissive…so i’ve not bought into the hype on that..as for dating asians, i have seen a few that i’ve found attractive… i always thought russell wong was hot…

9 04 2008
maya

note to self:
i can’t fuck with y’all while i’m at work – i laugh too hard and the tears start flowing. i just had a Come to Jesus Moment at my desk.

being a black woman, i can’t stand the tokenism that happens with (some) black men when they get with an asian woman (or a snowflake, for that matter). i also can’t stand asian women who won’t accept that they’re asian and try to either make themselves more european (eye surgeries and shit) or black (have you ever watched a flatback asian girl toot her ass up like she’s lifting something, and point at shit that is seemingly invisible to everyone else in the room?) moreso, i can’t stand being a commodity with men outside my race (particularly drunk white boys) who think they’re taking a walk on the wildside by dancing with my black ass.

9 04 2008
Merri Lee

I need a black girlfriend, a bottle of wine, and whole lot of fucking therapy.

Will you settle for a black girlfriend, a bottle of wine, and whole lot of fucking?

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

That would probably suffice as well.

9 04 2008
kablammyman

Many asian girls definitely have something to offer, but they don’t have so much to offer (especially to black men) that warrants the bigheadedness you see from way too many of them. The hubris is where my anger starts

QFT!!!

9 04 2008
Seven

I agree with Esquire, too – Chris stop frontin.’ Lolo, your hilarious! Now if D is single and willing to mingle I need to be on the next thing smoking to NYC. 🙂

9 04 2008
Seven

Sorry I meant you’re – that’s what I get for secret surfing at work!

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Hmm. It seems that Black fellas are really offended that Asian women do not treat them like the kings they believe themselves to be. This amuses, no, tickles, no, DELIGHTS me! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

9 04 2008
Lolo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcroft/2242508517/
I so need this shirt, really, we all need this shirt.

9 04 2008
Mr. Smith

My girl friend treats me like a king 😀

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Submissive my ass, every Asian girl friend i’ve ever had has been a harassing pain in the ass like Lolo here. And fun to be around. Still stay away from my Djimon, fool. What you talking bout girl Lenny K. Was super hot! before that damn relaxer or press n curl straight hair. Same reason a can’t stand Al Sharpton.

I might take Chow Yun Fat, he’s grown man sexy. Come on Ne-yo can sing, I’m sure he;s not so bad once you get to know him.

9 04 2008
sarah

i’m with you Toldja. i’m all for cultural preservation, but its hard to find a decent black man in DC. they all like Latinas and white women. i dont see too many with Asians.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

@Lolo …Although…. John Cho is that kindda nerdy boy cute that I like. We’ll see.

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Mr Smith- *Rolls eyes* And here, I thought we were friends.

OMG LOLO! That is the best shirt ever!!!!!! You all should have them! Love it!

LOL@ Anmarie trying to give away Ne-yo! I have a list of other donateable Negroes as well!

Asian girls- we can TOTALLY be BFFs if you all continue to reject and insult Black men. It makes me shine on the inside, like butterfly kisses or the new moon. Can you also make it a point to add “I KNOW what they say about Black men ain’t always true?”

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

You know… long ago, a friend of mine (asian) was dating an asian chick who had absolutely positively NO CLUE about the what possibly (ahem probably) happened to the late great Martin Luther King Jr. She denounced all of my buddies friends’ (all of whom are black, including me) theories concerning MLK’s assassination being one ordered by multiple parties ranging from the government to the mafia to his own people. She heralded “Why would the government assassinate MLK, when he is regarded as a National Hero? That doesn’t make any sense at ALL! Why would they commit murder against one one of this Nations Icons! Murder is wrong!”

This, Ladies and Gentlemen, was the first of several encounters that brought about nothing but despair and disdain for my friend’s “then” girlfriend as she continued to spew statements of ignorance, exposing her brief, yet racist and sheltered life. This woman was in her mid to early twenties screaming this nonsense and one could only hope that she has either been exposed to reality which allows her to think more freely… OR been run over by a truck.

Then again, most of the Asian women I’ve come across from Chinese descent have had a similar thought process. (shaking head)

Asian women don’t just hate black men. Asian people as a whole hate blacks. Period.

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

Shocker!!

I really don’t have shit to say…

As for Chris, if you almost married an asian chick, you cant hate em’ that much, and furthermore, I’m convinced that we would never work (or black girls period) because I (we) would be way too much for you (you have been immersed in the “others”, for way too long, I doubt you can turn back now). Not to reinforce, the black girls don’t want me set-up but I am slowly being convinced that you sincerely prefer the latter.

“I need a black girlfriend, a bottle of wine, and whole lot of fucking therapy.”

WE DONT BELIEVE YOU, YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE!

btw, I want my ring back

9 04 2008
Anmarie

“It makes me shine on the inside, like butterfly kisses or the new moon. Can you also make it a point to add “I KNOW what they say about Black men ain’t always true?”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That’s why some of them don’t get treated like kings after the hook up, haha. But obviously Mr. Smith is raining Christmas morning over there!

9 04 2008
Lolo

@Admiral,

East asians hate EVERY body. When I started dating, my mom told me “black, purple, green, fine but don’t ever bring home one of those Japanese.” And seriously, you haven’t heard some seriously bigoted slinging until you eavesdrop on a bunch of older korean women slamming the Filipinas. Maaaaan, it gets nastier than toe jam in a pair of Crocs.

9 04 2008
d teezy

I think that it’s actually good that 35% of Asian girls cross breed with the cracker kind. Let’s be honest we don’t need any more Asian people anyway, we got enough of em. =)

Anyways Dirt speaks the truth and I have to agree with all of these perceptions. Oh Asians are probably the most racist fucks on planet anyway – you don’t know it cuz they are just in the closet racists.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

ooooooo business woman this post pissed my girlfriend off too.
She states: Why do they have to smacked around by racist women before they recognize we have the love for them?

9 04 2008
D

seven – HA always willing to mingle. I love my Asian women, but many of them seem to lack the pride of being who they are – which is very consistent and sexy among black women.

Admiral Furious – Your generalization of Asian people is pretty ignorant in itself. Your friend’s “then” gf’s statement regarding MLK may be slightly ignorant and naive, but how would it be considered racist? She openly acknowledged MLK as a national hero…the only fault I see here is that she didn’t understand/agree with you and your friends’ conspiracy theories regarding his death. All the Asians that I know have absolutely no problems with Black people, so either you are hanging with the wrong Asian crowd, or there is some serious misunderstandings between you and them.

9 04 2008
NotBlonde

thebusinesswoman:

Hey, if you don’t think it’ll work out between you and Chris, I will gladly take him off your hands. I too am a black person who has been immersed in the “others” for far too long and prefer my black men a little bit um…not so black. That came out really, really wrong.

Beside that, what is it with the asian chicks in black music videos? My boyfriend (sorry, Chris) and his group of black men do not think that asian chicks are particularly good-looking. They do, however, like the ones with “chinky” eyes and “good” hair. Fuck them all.

9 04 2008
NotBlonde

I meant the ones who are half-black, half-asian. I seriously need to read over my writing before i post.

9 04 2008
Seven

The Business woman just gave him the business! Very interesting point! I
was just out on a blind date last night and my date was white. Because I’m not all the black men, even those out with white women, thought it was their “duty” to befriend me and ask why I was not out with a black or “atleast mixed dude.” WTF? Anyway, I just think sometimes people say things because they feel its appropriate, not because it’s what they truly believe. Those guys could have cared less about me and my future, but because I was out with Whitey McFadden it was a necessity to find out what was “wrong” with me… sometimes I really hate Atlanta.

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

Yea, now he want to see what’s good, since Chun Lee don’t want to do no more “spinning side kicks”

I am very perturbed, I so thought me and chris was gonna make some cute little blog babies

No more Christmas morning…sniff sniff

9 04 2008
nyc

notblonde:

preach! and the thing is that its not like black girls (and I mean chocolate) are a rarity in the videos but they are usually in the group scene and are never the lead or get “one on one” time with the artist. Its usually the asian, latina or the mixed chick, so like you said: fuck them all.

9 04 2008
Seven

“Ouch, that last FU hurt,” said the mixed girl – but seriously, I understand your points nyc and not blonde.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Word Seven I’ve been there. I went out with a white dude a couple of times, man black men looked like they could kill me. Seriously pissed off, Head to toe ice grills. I said these mofos date whoever they want whenever they want and have the nerve to kill me for enjoying a meal with a white man. The nerve.

9 04 2008
google

seven:

black men like to see black women as the back up, as the “in case every other female race has rejected me” woman. Thats the reason they get so mad when we date outside of our race. Its like hey you were supposed to be sitting around waiting for me while I explore and sow my wild oats, you werent supposed to be doing your own thing.

9 04 2008
Seven

I’m glad I’m not the only one whose gone this foolishness! When I’ve mentioned this tom foolery to other folks they don’t believe me. Nerve is right; knowing good and d*mn well none of them would have wanted to ask me out for date ’cause I’m not easy! You know those black men talked about us like some dogs the next day…

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

@ seven

Hey, I love them all. I have never dated a asian dude but I wouldn’t be against it, I love having a new story to tell. I remember when I would be out with the white dude , it seemed like the white girls was hating, but the white/black dudes was congratulating. He was looking like a king in there! I love slightly dorky dudes…so when they would see me and then see him, it was a cool juxtaposition.

As for not wanting a too black male, what exactly is TOO BLACK. Even though I may come off as quite *black*, I am actually quite all over the place. I can mix with the best of them. I don’t date thugs and what not (these dorks I love sure do love trying to act like they hard, so they get dropped) but initially, my pleasure is a super smart, somewhat dorky (glasses are a plus), decent (clean) dressing man, with miles of personality, and confidence. Someone I want to obey, and cater to, blah blah. Someone who will let me know when to shut the fuck up. In essence, a damn man.

Now Chris, has almost all these qualities, I could totally fall in love with his personality alone, but what would throw me off, is that I would always be thinking that he was ‘doing me a favor by dating MY black ass’

Geez, the knife cuts deep

9 04 2008
NotBlonde

google you speak the truth. I had a white male friend who I went to a movie with. We didn’t hug, hold hands or anything to indicate that we were any more than friends. I had groups of black guys literally stare me down and one assclown actually come up to me as I went to the bathroom and ask why i was “stepping out”. I actually had no idea what he meant at first so I just ignored him and continued on my way. Then I got pissed later when I realized what he had said.

That made my blood boil. I can’t even have white male friends and go out in public with them without it being a travesty to black people.

9 04 2008
Seven

Oh!!!! Thanks for the explanation google. Knowing the truth makes me feel so much better: I just love being someone’s back up plan (no first choice for me)! I guess I better cancel that trip to NYC to meet up with D :-). Don’t want to give the brothers the ‘wrong’ impression.

9 04 2008
NotBlonde

thebusinesswoman:

too black basically means that they are very much immersed in African American culture (whatever that is). I was brought up much in the same way as Chris; i have ties to African American culture but for the most part I’m not culturally black. Dating a culturally black person (as I am now) is weird as all get out because the culturally black girls he knows HATE me because I’m not. Plus he randomly makes fun of my complete distaste for rap/hip hop/spoken word.

9 04 2008
Lolo

Okay, I dare you ladies the next time you get attitude from black men about stepping out. Just hold your hands about a foot apart and say “but he’s black where it counts” and smiiiiiiiiile like it’s christmas.

I’m telling you, any time you tell one man that another’s got big wang it shuts it all down long enough for you to stroll off laughing.

9 04 2008
Seven

@ NotBlonde – LMFAO!! *assclown*

@thebusinesswoman- I really need to move if you received no hateration 🙂

9 04 2008
sarah

Now Chris, has almost all these qualities, I could totally fall in love with his personality alone, but what would throw me off, is that I would always be thinking that he was ‘doing me a favor by dating MY black ass’

Amen.

9 04 2008
google

All I can say is that black men better watch out because white, latina, asian men are less afraid to pronounce their appreciation and yes their love for the black woman. Granted Im from NYC so I see this more often then someone from DC. But my thing is I only go where I’m appreciated and respected. If that non-black man is going to show me love and respect and can handle my black ass, then I will be his dark chocolate african queen lol. And to that man who totally disrespected you NonBlonde, you should have flipped him the bird and told him a hearty and loving “fuck you!”

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

I think how you are percieved by the black dude when you are out with the others is all about location, location, location

Me and ol’ boy was always in Westwood and Beverly hills and shit, so to the white girls, it was like oh hell no, thats MY trust fund ( and yes my boy was in law school) but to other white dudes, it was like yeah, walk on the wild so bro, and the black dudes was like yeah girl, get that lawyer, and the black dudes, was like yeah, walk on the wildside bro, cause they was probably in there with a becky they damn selves

I hate the man code…ass is ass, pink is always goin be pink

But if you are in the more predominantly black areas, then yeah, they would have a fit, cause they out tryna find a black girl, and alas, brad already hit that

Ah, the ways of the world

9 04 2008
Seven

Will do Lolo! We’re going out next week. You rock, girl!!!

9 04 2008
Anmarie

@ Lolo – Wow, I’m gonna step out for a bit just to have the opportunity to say that.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

D and Lolo… as soon as I wrote that… I thought to myself… what the hell am I thinking. You’re right, not all asians hate blacks. In fact (at the risk of being called a minor deity of John Rocker) many of my closest friends are Asian…. which makes my previous statement hypocritical. HOWEVER, D you can certainly attest for this, the general attitude toward blacks in this country (especially in the DC area) is highly negative.

I am struggling to properly make my opinion known here, I apologize…. but I make no excuse.

I DO NOT, however, take back about what I said about my friend’s previous girlfriend. The racism came out from her over time… with statements like Black People are properly depicted in the movie Training Day and Menace 2 Society. She eventually began speaking how uneducated black people were (directly in front of me… after I her man and I had just completed our undergraduate degree while she was still pursuing hers).

Okay… with that said… let me make a non general statement, while trying to ease out of utilizing only personal experiences. During the NFL playoffs, Chris and I were invited to a friend (Korean) of ours’ house. We were instructed to bring food. Fine. We brought the food but had a little trouble deciphering which house he lived in down in Fairfax Va. (Chris please correct me if I’m wrong about the Doctors domicile) Anyhow, we were creeping along (the neighborhood is all Asian)… trying desperately to see the house numbers, and finally figured out that his house was behind us. We backed into his driveway and began unloading what we brought into the house. Not five minutes later… police patrol cars came rolling through, scoping the scene. We thought nothing of it. The Doctor eventually mentioned that not once in the years that he’d lived there had a police car come rolling through. Coincidence? 6 Foot Plus Negro who passes the paper bag test and a 5’7″ Negro with glasses who fails the paper bag test carrying goods into a house before the cops show. Come on.

I completely take back the ALL Asians are racist part. But many of them are toward black people. Especially in DC.

9 04 2008
Machete

Good post google …

The double standard has been pissing me off for a long time. If I have chemistry with someone I go for it – race is not an issue. Granted I could do without the snide comments or looks but the thrills I get from being with someone I truly have a connection with, out-weigh all those negative vibes. Like that reggae song sez it … I’m blind to you haterz…

9 04 2008
Seven

the business woman: yes I agree about location, but we were in Perimeter/Dunwoody which is predominately white area. It was probably our timing though- it was around 6:30pm and most of folk in there still had on their office badges; but who am I fooling it’s all Atlanta which is just about all black. Once again, I should probably move (for a more diverse environment). Thanks for tips, though- I need it!

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ TBW- HU!!!!! We gets it in! Tell em why you mad!

*Serious face*

Yeah, it’s pretty sad to see that brothers are actually offended that women of another race aren’t fucking with them. This is a racialized society, the only one who is bound to y’all is the sisters. This was funny when I read it this morning, but now its kinda sad, especially since there have been other guys echoing the same attitude.

Chris, I think “Black girlfriend, wine, fucking, therapy” should be your goal list for 2008.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

That was big of you AF.

@The Business Woman – This thing about black men dating out, because a man has a record of being with other races does that mean that he looks down on black women? Or that he finds us less beautiful? I’m wondering? Is that his bullshit? Or our insecurity?

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

@Seven (and others): “I agree with Esquire, too – Chris stop frontin.’”

Try to be humble…you’re frontin’. Talk honestly about all the women you’ve dated….you’re a blowhard or a player. Guess a guy just can’t win.

@Sister Toldja: “It seems that Black fellas are really offended that Asian women do not treat them like the kings they believe themselves to be.”

Can someone point me to the part where I either stated or insinuated that I expect to be treated like royalty by anyone, asian or otherwise? All I’ve said was that asian girls who date black men with the subtext of doing them a favor within a racial context are assholes. I expect only to be treated with respect and evenhandedness, and I don’t think that’s an unreasonable thing to expect from a woman whether she’s yellow, black, white, red, or green.

I understand that you are an opponent of black men dating outside of black, which is fair enough. But just consider your own forcefield of default animosity toward black men I’d have to contend with from the get go if I were to approach someone like you:

From ‘Carbon Trading’: “Black men leave us to raise the babies. They love their boys more than they love us. They don’t marry as much as they play house. They expect us to put up with blatant cheating and lying. They approach us in the street with “Shorty, yo! You got some sexy ass lips” (quote from a lower-class miscreatin) and “Your ass to waist ratio is phenominal” (quote from an Ivy League miscreatin).”

This is a brush that you seem to paint all black men with, including the ones it doesn’t apply to at all. Though I’m not one of them, there are good black men out there who will make the equally wrong assumption that all black women think this way about black men, and will avoid black women altogether because of it. In the end, you’ve got a friggin’ middle school dance where nobody’s dancing because everybody’s afraid of each other. Everybody loses.

I’m sorry, but your low expectations of black men coupled with what appears to be your tendency to meet only bottom-feeding black men (the only seemingly reasonable cause of your anger) is beginning to take on the air of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

“As for Chris, if you almost married an asian chick, you cant hate em’ that much, and furthermore, I’m convinced that we would never work (or black girls period)”

I never said I hated all asian chicks, I said I hated the ones in categories 2, 3, and 5.

“because I (we) would be way too much for you (you have been immersed in the “others”, for way too long, I doubt you can turn back now).”

Once again I’ve failed to be black enough. Oh well…thank God I’m Native too. Haliwa-Saponi girls make crazy pancakes.

“Why do they have to smacked around by racist women before they recognize we have the love for them?”

I’ve heard more angry/racist comments about black men from the black women in this and other threads over the last week than I’ve heard from all the non-black girls I’ve ever come across in my entire life combined.

Where’s the love?

According to the sweeping comments here and in other posts, I drop illegitimate kids everywhere, I believe in ‘bros before hoes’, I lie and cheat, I ‘front’ about my attractiveness or lack thereof to women, I never intend on committing, a talk to women in the streets like a cave man, I think I’m royalty, and since I’ve dated outside my race I’m no longer qualified to date black women.

‘Ain’t noooo looooove….in the heart of the cityyyyyy……’

9 04 2008
google

Correction: ummm I realized I put latina instead of latino..but you all got the drift.

@ Machete: That is exactly my point. I am not opposed to black men who happen to date outside their race. If you have a connection with that female then do you boo. But the problem I have is with black men who are blatantly prejudiced against black women, as if somehow we are inferior. Then you have the cojones to try to look at me sideways when Billy wants some of this. Lo siento honey, that shit pisses me off!

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Notblonde said “i have ties to African American culture but for the most part I’m not culturally black.”

Sister Toldja replied: Now who the fuck is gonna clean this vomit off of my shoes?!?!

It’s all love sister (wait, can I call you that). As long as you know that you are Black where it counts: aesthetically, which means you can be locked the fuck up, shot the fuck up and discriminated against just like the rest of us!

9 04 2008
D

Admiral – Hmm…I can never fully understand how it feels to be a black man, but I sympathize. I do agree, the DC area is diverse, but not a lot of mixing. For the majority, it is very segregated. I will also agree that Asians from older generations may be more racist than the Asians of our generation. After clarifying, your friend’s ex is one of those people who doesn’t realize she may actually be slightly racist. As for racism in general, you’ve clearly felt the heat from Asians, probably from whites too. I’ve felt the heat from Blacks and whites before as well, but I chalk it up to circumstance. shit happens, but hopefully everyone’s trying to be better.

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

There were 150,000 posts between the time I started writing my response and the time it posted.

Anyhow, I did not mean to imply that I thought I was doing anyone a ‘favor’ by dating them. It was simply my response to how I would look at asian women who think THEY’RE doing me a favor IF i was enough of an asshole to think that way.

Fortunately, my father did not raise that kind of a man.

Ok I’m done. Let the man-bashing continue 🙂

9 04 2008
d teezy

In the end, you’ve got a friggin’ middle school dance where nobody’s dancing because everybody’s afraid of each other. Everybody loses.

damn slim!!! haha good analogy!

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Chris I guess that answers my question, where in junior high and afraid to dance. I suspected. As my sister Toldja once said “Whitey got us in the butt with no lube” or something like that.
Sorry you feel bad, sorry we feel bad.
I’m giving everyone a big internet hugs and kisses. Mmmm (can you feel it). I can do that because i’m corny damn it.
🙂 There is love, look a bit more it’s behind the hurt and fear.

Peace ya’ll

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

D… again I do apologize for the misunderstanding above. And YES… I am certain that we all have had the hate being shot at us come another race big time. And for anything that you have taken from my race, I apologize on behalf.

But at least there aren’t a band wagon full of Asian women insulting you and your brethren left and right on this board.

9 04 2008
Seven

I ask the same question: Where’s the love? I don’t get any attention from the nice brothers (Jim Jones types need not apply: I don’t have bail money) until they see me out with Whitey McFadden. Why is that? I’m not sure and at this point I don’t really care. It used to bother me when I was in college, but I got over it really quickly; especially seeing how alot of them turned out to be “not my type.” As for mistaking your humbleness for slickness, I apologize. If you’re truly being sincere and your inbox isn’t over flowing with propositions – mala mia. I came to that conclusion reading your blog and noting several ladies flirting with you, i.e. “…honeys all over you.” Keep the good posts coming! 😉

9 04 2008
Lolo

Honestly, I’m prescribing all of you some food and fuckin’. Go on, pick some regional cuisine that’s not native to you and a partner from another culture and then come back and tell me that you’ve done your part for transcending racial hatred.

I think I’ll have some fried chicken and a dago with a whopper, myself.

BTW, I think I’ve figured out the whole mistaken submissive thing. We just keep quiet and then go and do exactly what we wanted to do in the first place, after giving you a blowjob and a smile. Now, I can see how some men confuse that with submissiveness but really, it’s just Ancient Chinese Secret!

9 04 2008
Miss Ray

I’m soo late but I didn’t know you had a gf chris!

Anyways, I honestly don’t think this is a particular phenomenon of the Asian race. EVERY RACE doesn’t want their own dating outside of it, even though you couldn’t tell it because of all the exogamy that takes place. I wish I could find it but maybe like 5 or something years ago, the cover of time magazine showed what the American would look like by 2030 or something and she just looked Hispanic/Native American. I’m sure that scared the Jesus-be out of everyone reading that. Although I don’t think its right to particularly single out a race to not date, I don’t think we can deny that this is something that is happening across all races.

What’s wrong is that Asian men and Black Women are the two most undermarried groups in America. So constantly black woman/asian men are looked at as the type of ppl you just don’t want to get married to. So bump Chris and his getting angry at asian women not showing him some love…WE BLACK WOMEN GET NO LOVE BY ANYBODY!!

9 04 2008
google

Chris,

I think you have to understand (and you probably already do) that many but not all black women are defensive and “angry” because we are constantly considered second best. I have a fifteen year old sisters who is constantly being told by black and latino boys in her school that black girls are pretty much worthless and dirty. She has a best friend who is on the regular is told she is ugly because she is too dark. This is a girl who is GORGEOUS but because of the darkness of her skin has incredibly low self esteem. So this indoctrination of self hatred starts young. Imagine her as 15 years from now, being told the same thing over and over again. I have no animosity toward women of other races because at the end of the day beauty is beauty. But it is an insult and a slap in the face to be considered inferior by men of your own race. Its understandable but certainly not justified when it comes from men of outside races, but when you have black men purposely rejecting black women, it can cause anger and resentment.

As for you not being “black enough” because you seem to date the “others,” I certainly don’t think thats TBW was trying to imply. (Sorry if I am misinterpreting you TBW). So many black men date “the others”, that it leads black women to think that there is something wrong with them. It sort of reminds me of the reason you gave for not really approaching black women in groups at a club. When in groups, they are hostile and mistrusting of a light-skinned, “pretty” black man like yourself. Although if you can up to me and my girls at a club, there is no way you would get rejected, you have to understand that the mistrust comes from a place of insecurity and hurt. We are constantly being told that we are not beautiful, have bad hair, and are unworthy of love. So as a means of feeling superior in a world where they are constantly being told that they are inferior, black women lash out. I can’t speak for you and your experience as a mixed man, but I don’t think anyone every questioned your “beauty” or told you were ugly to your face. This happens to some many of our women today, and this same message is portrayed in the media.

So, basically I’m trying to give you and others where we are coming from, just like I try to understand on a daily basis where others are coming from as well.

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“I’m soo late but I didn’t know you had a gf chris!”

I…don’t have…a girlfriend….dangit.

“So bump Chris and his getting angry at asian women not showing him some love”

I didn’t say….never mind. I am going home, and I am going to have myself a nervous breakdown. I worked hard today, I deserve it, and no one is going to deprive me of it.

Admrial, you’re in charge of the blog when I die.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

I’ll marry an Asian man, we can have cute babies like in the IKEA commerical. That’s always a good reason for marriage. Cute babies.

9 04 2008
google

BTW, like anmarie said earlier, you really need to move to NYC, because I know plenty of black women who have a thing for light skinned black men with green eyes : )

9 04 2008
Miss Ray

Fine Chris…you aren’t angry. But it doesn’t help that you just wrote a whole post about how you don’t like asian women presume to be doing black men a community service when they are dating them. And well, it just sounded a bit angry to me.

9 04 2008
Miss Ray

and google…um, i think the light skinned black man phase left with Al B. Sure. Although the train is gone, I’m sure you can walk to wherever it went. LOL.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

I’ve held my tongue for long enough…

Ladies, not one of us here has EVER made a horrible statement about the populous of black women and in fact we have made praises about them consistently. I think that I speak for all of the black men here that not one of us is a dog and even DESERVE the hostility that has ensued over the past several days. We don’t speak bad about the black women as a whole… why should the ladies take shots at us. None of us here has said anything in detriment or malice against any of the ladies without justification… so again… what gives you the right to do so?

“You have to understand where we’re coming from!”

We say the same to you.

This is where I say… no one listens to each others problem and therefore we are divided. If we unify we will solve our problems as a community. But as I said yesterday… no one wants to hear that. Everyone is caught up with what/who dun done them wrong.

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

Ok so we are basically getting nowhere.

@ Chris

Honestly, I was probably a bit jealous that you was about to marry somebody or something, it sucks that it came off as your typical end result, not black enough. Ah, this internet crush of mine, for shame I tell you, for shame.

I didn’t mean that you didn’t qualify but I can say that just like you generally feel like black girls aint feeling you, I feel like somebody who has been so far left, would have a definite shock coming so far right to deal with me.

We can still be friends, and if I am ever in DC I will look you up, and just because I love the people in this blog so much I will tell them what you are really like in real life…

And at the very least, I’ll hit that and brag (or clown) about it

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

joking

9 04 2008
google

Miss Ray,

That only means the more for me lol : )

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Chris… I will be unable to heed your request as my hypertension (my name says it all) will most certainly catch up to me prior to your nervous breakdown, life in a mental home, and your passing!

Either that or I will die at sea.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

AF i’m giving you a hug, too.

Listen folk be cool, don’t start breaking down, let not pick each other’s flesh off the bone

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Chris- Just as you do in your blogs, I generalize and exagerate a tad. We ALL do. And while you were throrough enough to do a breakdown of the different types of Asian women, we all know that your figures were not precise. When I say Black men, of course I don’t mean ALL of them. Just as you know that not ALL Asian women (or even 25% of them are doing you a favor).

And by treat you like a king, I meant show you all this huge amount of interest you all seem to want.

I obviously have different notions of racial solidarity than you. No, my “bitterness” (I call it disappointment) in Black men is not soley the result of my personal experiences. I’ve dated some good and dated some bad. And the quote I listed from the Ivy League dude was something said to my friend, not me. I don’t just look at ST’s life, I look at the bigger picture. Sisters everywhere are dealing with some bad situations, that informs my opinion as much as my own experiences.

Chris, the sweeping comments may not fit you, the same way some of your comments about Asian women don’t fit Lolo.

Yes, it is a middle school dance. Brothers chasing racist Asian women who don’t want them, and sisters standing on the wall angry as hell that their own men don’t value them more. Asian men looking pissed that the Asian women see White men as an upgrade. and White girls….well, they always have someone to dance with.

All we want is to be loved, respected and put FIRST by our own men. All we want is to love you guys! At least that’s all I want. But it seems like that is too much to ask.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Big up Anmarie.

9 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“Either that or I will die at sea.”

You will die from farting in the bathtub, turning around, and biting the bubbles. Cock.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Damn that rubber ducky.

9 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Miss Ray- Gurl, bye. I like em Mellow Yellow and Chocolate Deluxe and everything inbetween. Now that I see the yella fellas feeling all bad and left behind (except when they aren’t chasing Asian Amy!), I am gonna strike while they are weak.

Give me your tired, your weak, your Al B. Sures and Christopher Williamses! Let them find comfort in my soft bosom!

9 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

Im ret for a new topic, I’ll see ya’ll tomorrow

Oh and Sista, I answered your question on my blog

Ta Ta bitches

9 04 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

Sister Toldja – I don’t think Chris exaggerates at all in his blogs. I think when he writes, these are things that legitimately piss him off. I’m still struggling to understand how this one went from something that pisses Chris off to Chris not being black enough and unable to date black women because of his previous sexcapades…

As for Asian women, I’d never date ’em. To this day, they’re the only race I never dated (and middle-easterners, as Chris stated before). I never dated them because of many of the reasons Chris stated, as well as more, and also because of the look of hatred their men give when you happen to be catching that 5 second dance with one in the club.

Now travel to Japan, and the native Japanese girls feel completely differently. 😉

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Seriously, Sister Toldja, Is that a picture of you there. If so Yay to the D cup! We shouldn’t be single. Let’s go out and just grab our man outta Amy’s arms.

9 04 2008
Lolo

See how you are? First you go pointing out what awaits me in my old age (troll?? cry cry) and now with the flaunting of the titties.

I’m going to go and suck up a big old glass of boba and then buy some new Hello Kitty underwear just so I can feel better.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

HA HA, and some how the world still wants you, and you’re married you’ll be okay. Ask Billy if he has any friends that like Black Women. i asked AF for a date and he turned me down for some silly reason: “oh i have a girl, I have a girl, girl” wan wan wan.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

LOL, AF can I still keep my big ups after that one. 😀

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

LMFAO! I am truly sorry Anmarie… I missed your date proposal… or maybe I was just oblivious. I dunno. Either way, yes, I do have a girlfriend… and yes our situation is complicated. Regardless, I REFUSE to be one of those dudes who will go around cheating on his significant other. I have nothing but love for you and all black women… but right now just ain’t the time.

And for the record, yes my girlfriend is black. But not from DC.

9 04 2008
Miss Ray

ahhhh…there are still some out there that like the light skinned wow. well i guess they haven’t gone completely away. but i’m more of an in between kinda girl. don’t like them on any extremes, ya dig. i guess i will invalidate everything i’ve just said by revealing that i’m dating a hispanic man! OOOH what now.

also, the only reason why there is black men trashing because black men are guilty of picking and choosing as well. well, before i delve in, disclaimer: generalizations are bad! but as someone that has gone to a private high school and college where there is a disproportionately low number of brothers on campus, you would think that hey, they would like to mingle. but oh no, they have flocked to white women and to the asians as if they were pieces of fried chicken (refer to post and comment section of yesterdays post!) for real, and they have the same “you are not worthy” air towards the black girls on campus because they’ve been gassed up the ass with all non-black girls around them. so i guess hateration from the black women is truly bred from the original hate you guys are showing us. don’t be angry…

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Yes, I will always big up you Anmarie. 🙂

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Man look at you all feeling yourself, i’m just messing with ya. 😀 Dude! I don’t date other women’s men! Uncomplicate your situation and love your black woman ya heard. But happy you’re laughing.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Awwwe, we’re so gay.

Sorry gay people, that was wrong don’t start yelling at me

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Miss Ray… I too went to private school (up until College) and I too have been exposed to 4+ years of college education…. AND I TOO have experienced hate from the same gender. So we’re in a vicious cycle here aren’t we? Again, take no offense, but you want us to see how bad it is for you… but the 5’7″ brother with glasses, speaks “white,” not completely dark skinned but still fails the brown paper bag test got the hand to the face by the ladies consistently. But I never gave up on ya’ll. I will say that I am guilty of dating other races during my time on this earth… but at the same time, I have not forgotten about you. In fact, as I have gotten older and approached that mark where “its time to get married” more and more I’ve seen the qualities and benefits of dating my black sisters than someone otherwise. But during those hard times in college… things were not the same. And in fact… I ended up not dating anyone in this area at all. Instead, my significant other is from california. Go figure.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

I am having some serious writing problems today.

“Miss Ray… I too went to private school (up until College) and I too have been exposed to 4+ years of college education…. AND I TOO have experienced hate from the same gender”

I meant to say opposite gender…

Now I feel really gay. NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT!

9 04 2008
Lolo

At the end of any of Chris’ posts, everyone should be laughing. Now, whether you’re laughing with him or at him, that’s on you but most of these posts crack me up. I take it as an invite to jump in and stir it up enough so that it just gets funnier, if possible.

I do feel badly when people take it personally and it flies back around to some real life bullshit though.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Yo (I’m from NYC, habit), ya’ll know that white people treat eacher horribly too. WTF. They just don’t call it white on white crime. And everytime a person of color marries a white person, a white person marries a person of color. Ya’ll do realize this, right? Over simplified yes but this argument sucks.

Man it hurts with no lube, let this shit go.

9 04 2008
nyc

I think Chris’ next diatribe should be about mayonnaise. That shit is nasty lol.

9 04 2008
Lolo

“They just don’t call it white on white crime.”

They call it “marriage” or “condo association”. Honest to god, one of my in laws once told me “I think of you as being just like white” and I was “….. thank you?”

9 04 2008
Anmarie

Nah nah, about the freaking Show Time at the Apollo and how white men are on there winning for doing the stupidest shit ever, like singing the Humpty Dance

9 04 2008
Lolo

Not that I think that Chris is going to run out of hate any time soon but it could be funny to compile a list of suggestions for him to address.

9 04 2008
Anmarie

1. Mayo
2. Showtime at the Apollo
3. Fake boobs?
4. (what you got?)

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Everyone should be up on this…

Big Up Sianfroncco

9 04 2008
D

Admiral – I appreciate the apologies, but they are not needed, you and i are cool. It’s refreshing to engage in grown conversations without anything stupid popping off. I also apologize in kind, as those older Asian folk clearly don’t have their head right.

9 04 2008
nyc

umm admiral…thats the ish right there…thats the kind of jazz that grabs a hold on to you and doesnt let go…not that smooth jazz thats on all the radio stations

9 04 2008
nyc

anmarie:

orange tan and two tone hair extentions

9 04 2008
Tom Harkin

EVERYONE

OUUUUUUUUUGH!!!! STOP CRYING AND START FUCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEHAW!!!!

~Tom Harkin

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

That one is Kool and the Gang- Summer Madness (jacked by Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince to make an almost equally great song)

That track makes me hope for better weather soon enough up in here.

Big up D.

Meanwhile house/DnB/GEA/Downtempo tracks/mixes that carry a similar vibe can be seen here:

http://www.godfathersage.com
http://www.jamesmarquis.com
http://www.sianfroncco.com

GOD DAMN I’VE JACKED THE HELL OUT OF MY MAN’S THREAD!

9 04 2008
Lolo

Oh, now I would be curious to hear Chris’ views on fake titties.
Also, smooth jazz ala Kenny G.
Someone brought up blonde hair on asian women so there’s that whole thing. Non white women with bleached blonde hair.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

I can’t really get with the sound of a Saprano Sax like that… but I can respect it.

Lonnie Liston Smith, Kool & the Gang, Amp Fiddler, and just old school R&B and Jazz are what do it for me.

9 04 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

Blonde hair on any women, in my humble opinion. Can’t stand the Arian Complex that it creates over their own counterparts and other homosapiens in general.

9 04 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

I deserve a kick to the teeth – that should be “Aryan”. Crap.

9 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Well I think all the races are guilty of trying to be like everyone else. Look at all other races trying to put their hair in dreadlocks… after seeing how “coo” it looked on the Jamaica MON or the Predator (though it really didn’t have locks like that). I find it atrocious when i see people dying their hair colors that were never meant for them. Unfortunately… our people are just as much to blame with the neon Orange, Kool aid red, pink polka dots, leopard design weaves I’ve seen in Bmore.

DISCLAIMER: NOT ALL ladies wear foolishness like this

10 04 2008
Lolo

Poor Admiral, are you just a bit skittish after today?

I have another one, the “memorial tattoo”. I about snapped my neck at the market the other week when I saw my first one of these. Just, wow.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

Summer Madness, very sexy.

4. Orange, blonde hair on black women, dreads on the Japanese
5. The fact that the Predator had locks (racist fuckin hollywood)
6. Memorial tattoos
7. Cucumber Sandwiches(outrageous)

10 04 2008
voodoobooty

I’m mad late to this post! I guess I don’t get the Asian fetish either way.

And I am not feeling the Latin comments! I know not all of them acknowledge their African roots (for those who have them) but as a Dominican girl from the Heights who considers herself Black, fuck the fetishists in any way shape or form. I am not calling you Papi!

I like all the men in the diaspora, but if they want an Asian woman or a Becky, go ahead, you are missing the lusciousness – an you can stay a backdoor fuck for them!

10 04 2008
whiteblackeducatedhater or whatever i am today

ok i used to think that black women were the most overlooked on the planet. but i think that’s not true. i think all men have some type of black woman fetish–whether it’s in the form of a voluptuous african woman, a hip-hop video girl variety (yeah i know 1/2 of them are only questionably black) or some mulata/latina/caribbean look. especially in places where blackness is sparse.

anywho i still think asian men and black women need to start dating each other…cuz black women are hot…and asian men are hot…tell chicken jon to get some of his relatives/asian friends together and start showing the sistas some love!

10 04 2008
NotBlonde

Holy crap, I leave the board to go to class and the place blows up.

There is nothing wrong with black girl dating an asian man; I dated an asian guy for a little while. The only problem with him was that he always wanted to know what I wanted and was really um…submissive. Which was weird and I did not like in the slightest. Maybe he thought I was a black girl who “knew what she wanted”. Personally, I like that black guys are fairly rigid (hee hee) in their ideas and tell me what to do once and awhile.

I think I just wandered into strange sexual deviancy that no one wanted to know about…

To miss Sister Toldja: “Now who the fuck is gonna clean this vomit off of my shoes?!?!

It’s all love sister (wait, can I call you that). As long as you know that you are Black where it counts: aesthetically, which means you can be locked the fuck up, shot the fuck up and discriminated against just like the rest of us!”

Hell yes I know i’m aesthetically Black and have been reminded of it countless times by the very people who have sapped my cultural blackness. I’m not like this because I chose to be, I’m like this because I knew nothing else until i got to college and got me a fine, educated black man who is educating me on what I missed.

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Anmarie- LOL! It’s me and yes, us and “the twins” should be able to go and turn the town upside down regardless! HA!

@ Lolo- Girl, whateva. You are hanging and maintaining without! And 1000 cool points for suggesting smooth Jazz as a thing to hate!!!!!! My dad used to say “Follow the ‘no G Rule’: No Kenny G, no Najee, No Warren G”!!!

I’m at home, planning a “sick day” for tommorrow and sipping on a ‘rita. Now that I am in a more relaxed state, I just want Chris and AF and the rest to know that when it comes to the brothers, I am y’all number one fan! Especially Chris! I spend more time on his blog now than my own (and AF, you definitely add to the convo). I hope we are all still internets friends. I didn’t mean to make y’all upset. Sometimes a sister gets worked up. And Chris, I know what its like to write something and for it to be taken in a whoooole nother direction by your readers, to the point where it ruins the whole thing for you. But you know we love you, right?

Lets get back to having fun!

10 04 2008
Choco_Gnome

“EVERYONE

OUUUUUUUUUGH!!!! STOP CRYING AND START FUCKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEHAW!!!!”

make love not e-war, eh? 🙂
And we can all make cute babies from our ethnically-diverse orgy

10 04 2008
Lolo

Awwww, it’s all lovey in here now and phew for that.

Loved the Summer Madness clip and just so Chris can come back to some real Rockin’ the Far East http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5QjvTDulFg

You must watch to at least the part where old Kenjisan gets to wailin’ like a cat getting buttfucked, it’s AWESOME.

@Sister Toldja, your father is a wise man. Enjoy that ‘rita while I raise my glass of red back atcha.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

@ Lolo

“You must watch to at least the part where old Kenjisan gets to wailin’ like a cat getting buttfucked, it’s AWESOME.”

You are a funny funny woman! I’m kindda digging this song. Kenjisan’s holler sure is something.

@ Sister T

You’re a stand up kindda woman, very admirable, lovely indeed

10 04 2008
maya

wow @ all these posts.

i have to agree with chris’ earlier post; a woman (black or otherwise) does nothing for herself by carrying baggage. i listen to a lot of people, particularly of my generation, go into the “niggas ain’t shit,” “bitches ain’t shit” rants and raves, and the whole thing is tired. this is by NO MEANS to suggest that everything over here has been roses and sunshine in my relationships (Haysoos only knows…) but you gotta get over that shit. i refuse to let anyone – man, woman, child – to make me the “bitter black woman,” walking around expecting the worst of my people.

this is not to say that black men are without their fuckery – but let’s be real, black women have their shit with them too.

such as women who get into relationships still mad as hell from the last one they were in, spend the entire thing exercising their misguided anger and the poor guy tryna do right, and then wonder why he left your miserable ass. as many things as there are that have been said about the malfunctions of the black man, there are just as many (if not more) about the black woman. if you know yourself to woman of respect and quality and of good esteem, then you know how many of these generalizations are racist propagations. some people are, in fact, triflin’. some are not. and perhaps the shitty outnumber the sensational, but that’s something indicative of human nature, not of the black man nor the black woman.

i challenge black women to let the shit go. don’t let a raggedy brotha knock you off your square. cry your tears, listen to some old school MJB (none of this “Just Fine” bullshit), scream, pray on it…maybe even key his car if the situation warrants such behavior*…and then MOVE ON. ’cause i promise you he has. women will reference the same worthless nigga for the next 15+ years if the opportunity allows for such. your bitterness is not stopping him from doing anything he wants. it only limits yourself.

<>

*admittedly, i may sometimes subscribe to the “black women are crazy” propagation. call it a character flaw.

10 04 2008
maya

p.s.

PLEASE don’t get me started with this “black enough” bullshit. it’s not even qualified under the right criteria:

if you don’t VOTE, you aren’t black enough.
if you aren’t interested in upward mobility of yourself and your people, you aren’t black enough.
if you lack ambition, you aren’t black enough.
if you aren’t interested in the attainment of assets and financial security, you aren’t black enough…etc., etc., etc.

i need my people top with the kiddie explanations of blackness and decide to retire that as well, okay? thanks.

(clearly, my dad was a black panther. don’t get me started…)

10 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

157 comments. Sweet merciful crap.

I love everything.

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

In mid October 2007, Chris, Chi (see Subtle Racism #1), Landmine (American Born, Asia Indian descent), and I happened to venture to Love Nightclub in DC for the Common (Sense) and Q-Tip show. Naturally, the ensuing crowd was a wall of blackness at the front door. Post entrance, we made our way through the first floor and somehow managed to ascend to the third floor (after fighting with the heavy crowd while managing to stay together) about 20 minutes later. Reggae was playing on the third floor, which was equally packed as the lower two levels. It was there that the highlight of the night occurred.

Chi… who is a petite Asian girl and had been cowering in fear for much of the night had an experience that could probably be described by her as something equivalent to a real life encounter with Freddy Kruger himself. As the four of us were standing around, marveling at the ridiculous number of people that were obviously violating the fire code of the establishment with their presence, an extremely built (but not ridiculously huge) black dude forcefully grabbed Chi by the arm (without speaking and after he had stood behind her scoping with all his might) and wrenched her into rhythmic body to body hip juggle to the beat of the music. The sheer combination of terror and pleasure gleaming from her face was both hilarity and sympathy inducing, thus causing a moment of confusion and indecision on how to react to the situation within me. Welp, my foolish behind sat and just stared and did nothing as Chi’s terror went away and she got into the groove (the best she could) and did not completely indicate that she was not enjoying her time with the “Big Black Man”

Once finished, she audibly acknowledged her fright at first and stated she felt a little violated that the dude had just grabbed her and started dancing with her… despite her presence among three other dudes, whom she COULD have been with. Of course none of us were with her… so not stopping him from doing so would have been our bad. HOWEVER, had she been with one of us… IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DISRESPECTFUL TO US FOR HIM DOING WHAT HE DID.

Now… later on that evening, Chi and I were just having a nice dance on the first floor when all of a sudden two sistas came up to us and screamed to both of our faces: “Look at this shit here! Asian Persuasion!”

This immediately parted the two of us… sending us in practically two different directions and Chi red in the face. I was not happy with the unnecessary comment nonetheless.

It lead to a conversation about racism for the rest of the night. AND SHEER HILARITY TO THIS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

10 04 2008
knaturalbeauty

:O

10 04 2008
Anmarie

Maya … so you mean if i vote… I’m still black even if I listened to Stone Temple Pilots and Meatloaf growing up?

beause my mother and brother didn’t believe so and they’re no one’s black panther.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

That story is disturbing. Ya’ll need to come the hell up out of DC, now I’m convinced. What a shitty town. No offense but… damn.

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

OH DC IS INDEED A PIECE OF SHIT! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! I DO NOT DENY THAT! Christ almighty the people here have morphed into the most viciously racist right winged people I’ve ever seen.

However, DC in my opinion is nowhere near as shitty as LA.

NYC and South Beach Miami are the two cities that rank high on my list.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

“people here have morphed into the most viciously racist right winged people I’ve ever seen.”

And viciously uncouth to boot. Funny that you say South Beach I’ve been thinking that that might the only other city to move to, this past winter here was freakin cold. Yet hearing your DC lamentations I’m thinking my city’s alright after all.

10 04 2008
maya

Anmarie:

Girl, please. Yes! I was “the only” throughout most (read: all) of my academic career. Of course, my preface is “the music of my people.” But I unashamedly listened to No Doubt before it Gwen Stefani became popular amongst black folk. I like Alanis Morissette and selections from Nirvana, Green Day and other melanin-challenged individuals.

Does my family give me the “Where the hell did we find you and how can you listen to this shit?” side eye? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, can’t nobody tell me shit. *cues Kanye*

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Okay… here is my limited assessment on NYC. Liberal, Tolerant and Diverse. There is a actually a scene for house music there… unlike DC… which has two venues that pretty much suck. If my career could be a success there in respect to cost of living, I’d move in a second. But such is not the case. oh well…

10 04 2008
Anmarie

Well actually we have problems like everywhere. I think maybe I’m so used to mixed crowds (with good music) i just can’t imagine sisters being that nasty and hood (stank eye maybe, but yelling nah), especially at a Common concert, maybe If JayZ was in the house, but not Common.

10 04 2008
Lolo

I’m holding my sides over “Asian Persuasion”! Holy fucksticks, best name for asian boy band EVER.

So many possible retorts, all of them resulting in probable violence so I’m glad it wasn’t me on the dance floor. But see?? It’s exactly that sort of thing that slung me over the colour line to argyle alley.

10 04 2008
Tamara

lol @ Anmarie.

Girl I feel your pain, while I definitely rocked to the hiphop and r&b hits of the 90s [and today, even though I’m selective], I definitely rocked to Celine Dion, Green Day, Googoo dolls, and I does the house music [just not with the sweaty eyetalians from L.I. and Jersey] and I got a big ol’ head of natural hair.

This doesn’t stop my father from calling me a “valley girl” though.
*shrugs*

@Admiral, I concur, DC is some shit. I’m from NY but I go to school out here and my “northener” friends and myself never ceased to be amazed by the montage that goes on out here in the clubs. I’m not saying fuckery doesn’t occur in NY but at least I don’t mind so much being in a bar/club with the white folks. They’re a lot more chill up in NY. The ones out here [DC] are too hype for my life. Always trying to riot, and fight someone.

I can’t business.

OH and someone mentioned about people in Jamaica and the interracial dating that goes on there. Being from the islands, I can say that the only reason this is really acceptable is that despite the fact that people immigrated [or were shipped off, take your pick] there, everyone on the island feels that they’re Jamaican. So I mean yeah you’re dating an Asian dude, or an Indian girl/guy whatever but he/she is still Jamaican.

That and there’s that same ol’ fascination with “mixed” beauty.

10 04 2008
lisaturtle

Jesus… I can’t believe I read most of this. Y’all mofos are extra crazy. I envy Sister Toldja for her ability to admit her blog crush. I have a few blog crushes but these are things I keep to myself. LoL.

And daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn at the DC hate… DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN. I don’t think it’s that bad.

10 04 2008
lisaturtle

Also, IDK if this is my Louisiananess kicking in but I have never been to fond of NYC. But then again I sometimes think I’m a big city hater because I hate NYC, Atlanta and LA. IDK. ESPECIALLY ATLANTA AND LA. Ugh.

10 04 2008
roadlesswandering

Hello there are so many posts to this topic. But I’ll add my two cents. I’m living out here in Japan and in 2006 they had an article in the op-ed section of the Japan Times entitled, “Japanese women are losing their edge.” (paraphrasing title..sorry) Anyway, the article told Japanese women that the number of interracial marriages has decreased and it’s because Japanese women aren’t worldly enough to attract foreign men. This article was like a motivational speech. The writer told the women to become more worldly so they could continue to be the most desired women on the planet.

Being out here this subtle racism thing is starting to hit harder than ever. But what can you do. I’m getting it from all types of people…black diaspora, the white diaspora (UK, USA, Australia, New Zealand) and Asians. It’s a little depressing….planning on leaving soon.

10 04 2008
roadlesswandering

Japanese people became uppity about their looks began in 1950 after “Miss Kinuko Ito won 3rd place in the Miss Universe contest. To a nation still steeped in defeat, this honor was nectar to parched lips. Imagine, they said in awe, one of our girls competing with those tal, long-stemmed, cool-eyed beauties! and taking third place!…The nation fell inlove with her overnight.” (The Japanese by Jack Seward)

10 04 2008
roadlesswandering

sorry about the typos

10 04 2008
Mr. Smith

“I’m still black even if I listened to Stone Temple Pilots and Meatloaf growing up?”

Here’s somewhat of an interesting issue I’ve struggled with amongst friends and family my life. Music is music and it’s the greatest gift to man whether it’s John Legend, Linkin Park, some mop-headed dude growling into a microphone, or some Ludacris wanna be saying “stomp em in the nuts” over and over again.

All I know, is it wouldn’t have mattered what I had playing on my ipod at the moment the cop pulled me over for doing 55 in a 35. He was still going to check the “black” box on his report.

BACK TO THE ACTUAL TOPIC! I’m lucky enough to have a #4. I thought she was a #5 case, until I discovered how infatuated her family was with me. It’s good to be black and beautiful.

10 04 2008
bluedoll

Hear, Hear. Music is music and all rock music comes from a Black man. the greatest guitarist EVER was a Black man. Music is MUSIC, who cares what color the band/artist/whatever is. If you like it, turn it up and groove to it.

Never dated an Asian boy. Flirted with one heavily, but nothing came of it. hmmm…

10 04 2008
Mr. Smith

“PLEASE don’t get me started with this “black enough” bullshit. it’s not even qualified under the right criteria:

if you don’t VOTE, you aren’t black enough.
if you aren’t interested in upward mobility of yourself and your people, you aren’t black enough.
if you lack ambition, you aren’t black enough.
if you aren’t interested in the attainment of assets and financial security, you aren’t black enough…etc., etc., etc.

i need my people top with the kiddie explanations of blackness and decide to retire that as well, okay? thanks.

(clearly, my dad was a black panther. don’t get me started…)”

@ Maya,

I think I found my new best friend!

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Lisa- That wasn’t me who admitted the “blog crush”! I like any good looking man with a big stick, but I wasn’t the one who formally announced it!

AF- about the story from Love. Ok, the part where the dude grabbed her, that is not unique to her being Asian. Every woman I know has been grabbed by some brutish man to dance, especially at Love. I think had you’d been Asian guys, he wouldn’t have did it, but she was obviously cool with Black men and perhaps he peeped that she didn’t seem to be “with” any of y’all. Obviously it didn’t bother her so much, cause she didn’t slap him or go off. I don’t think Lolo woulda sat there and took that if she didn’t want to! And OMG to her being like a scared child. Why didn’t she stay the fuck home? I don’t go to clubs where I’m gonna be scared and wide-eyed all night. Granted, I am a buxom, 5’9/6’0 in heels chick, so less situations would threaten me than her. But still.

RE: the Black girls. Ok, that was wack. But here is a possibility: they went to a mixed club or too, and felt as appreciated and desired as the sister in the bathroom handing out towels. So then it’s back to Love: a safe haven, where the sister is always in vogue on Friday nights. They have a few drinks, get niiiice and drunk. Then, BAM- what the FUCK is this?

That, and/or maybe they were just ignorant. Dudes who like Common and Tip tend to also like non-Black women, so I probably would have been on angry mode that night too. But I have learned to control my urges a little more.

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

LOL @ Mr Smith- Typical, typical, typical! Yes, everybody loves a smart Black girl….but God forbid you actually date one!

@ Maya- My dad was a Panther too. We tend to be a little hardcore about things, right?

10 04 2008
Anonymiss

Lolo said “White women are used to their men being rice chasers and have learned to let it slide on by.”
————————————————————–
That’s just messed up, LMAO!!!

Thankfully, I haven’t met an Asian like this.

10 04 2008
lisaturtle

“about the story from Love. Ok, the part where the dude grabbed her, that is not unique to her being Asian. Every woman I know has been grabbed by some brutish man to dance, especially at Love.”

So true Sister Toldja… GOD I HATE LOVE.

Was it thebusinesswoman who actually first admitted the crush? I do get lost.

And I like what you said to Mr. Smith.

…On to something else. Y’ALL GON STOP HATIN ON THE JAPANESE, 1/4 OF ME IS GETTING OFFENDED (while the rest of me is kinda laughing).

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Now that I’m a little more awake than I was last night… I’m remembering more details from that oh so wonderful night out in DC!

Following departure from love nightclub, the quartet comprising of Chris, the Admiral, Chi, and Landmine made their way into Chinatown, where Chi knew of a very good Chinese restaurant that stayed open until the wee hours of the morning. I don’t recall what ungodly hour at which we stumbled ourselves into the venue, however it was late enough to say… well… the street cleaners were out and I was extremely tired.

Anyhow… after we were sat down, ordered our food, received it and began eating, a humorously intoxicated Asian male sauntered his way over to our table after recognizing Chi’s face. They commenced with a full yet rude conversation conducted solely in Chinese (Mandarin specifically). After several moments of silence from the three darkies at the round table, the guy turned on his heel and left without acknowledging our presence. Thats when the plot thickened.

Chris, who has had some experience with the Chinese culture, looked at Chi with a most begrudging face and asked… “Why did he say to you… ‘I didn’t know you liked hanging out with black people?'”

The hilarity continued.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

” Music is MUSIC, who cares what color the band/artist/whatever is. If you like it, turn it up and groove to it. ”

Yes I know this, but my folks didn’t. But whatever they couldn’t program a VCR either. Sorry mom.

Lisaturtle, my bad at the DC hate, I’ve only done the tourist “white house, lincoln memorial, etc.” visit to DC. So I don’t know, but with Chris’s stories and AF’s stories those bothers aren’t painting a pretty picture of your fair city. I did get grabbed up at a club in Queens a long time ago, but back then I was to young to know that people shouldn’t party in Queens.

10 04 2008
Anmarie

“Why did he say to you… ‘I didn’t know you liked hanging out with black people?’”

OH!

10 04 2008
lisaturtle

LoL, it’s okay Anmarie, to be honest I mostly try to keep my distance from DC (especially the club scene) but it’s mainly because I keep meeting horrible men that I don’t know are horrible until months later when I’m in DC and/or PG County. Also, my friends are big fans of the Metro as I am NOT so DC and I don’t go down all that often… Well often I guess but not as often as say Baltimore and I (which even though I hate is usually at least a weekly affair). I just don’t think DC is a bad as people were making it… But this is partly because of my time in Atlanta. Atlanta made me appreciate the whole DMV. I SWEAR ON MY LIFE when I was coming back to Maryland I literally burst into TEARS when we crossed into VA. Living in Atlanta ruined Atlanta for me. *Shudders*

10 04 2008
maya

LMAO!

@ Sister Toldja – yes, i am admittedly pro-Black at all times; it has made for many-a “teach me, sensai” moment with people i go to school with. and i’m not sure that everyone loves a smart black girl; i think some people do, and other people are simply fascinated by it…esp. since we’re usually written off as gum-smacking trollops who can’t conjugate verbs. as Zora Neale Hurston wrote, “the black woman is the mule of the world.”

@ Mr. Smith – yes, you can be my bestie 🙂

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Anmarie and Lisaturtle…

PG County… pure and utter crap. F. Start over. How is it that the second richest county in Maryland (per capita and average household income) has some of the ghettoest people, worst schools, highest taxes… and oh… I hate to admit… the highest population of black people. THOSE people front like its no tomorrow. Can I get a witness? These are the same people who grew up in $300K homes (during the 90s that was a buttload of money) and still talk about how hard they are because they can see a little sliver of the top of the washington monument… or their grandmother lives on the DC border. These are the same ones that infested the University of MD system. (shaking head)

The DC nightlife sucks here… but again, its not as bad say… Los Angeles. I will admit, however, that there are a few places where one can find a mature crowd… with Zanzibar being the front runner in my head. Bohemian Taverns and a few others are nice as well.

The detest for DC comes from the experiences with the multitudes that have to the money to spend in DC and the clubs/lounges that cater to them. Unfortunately, Northern VA is saturated with filthy wealthy yuppies ready to drop their next G on a table and a bottle at a night club near you! Because of this oversaturation, the club owners have either wised up and completely ignored the real “quality” of their establishments in favor of getting the green in and making that money. The first slime ball with a fat wad to show that appears to their face, gets the first comp… so on and so forth. Most of these people are snotty, right wing republicans (Georgetown Area especially) who have attitudes worse than… well some of these kids out here today. Because this makes up the plethora… and the spots that: played real music, had real people, and actually gave a shit about quality are dying off… makes DC a dull tool.

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Fuck DC and PG! I had a great time in my 4 years, 9 months there. The gentrification of Ledroit Park was too devistating for me. My sophomore year, I saw a new White couple or family move every single day. I bounced to NE, which was cool (for the moment), but that area is gonna be a lost cause as well. Its a hard thing to cope with: my love for coffee shops, well-stocked grocery stores and safety coupled with my hate for the gentrifiers who bring those things with. I did 9 months in Hyattsville, mere blocks from DC. And while there were a few novel things about living in a “hood suburb”, ultimately, it was time for me to get the Hell away from the DMV. As God as my witness, I will NEVER live in ANY sort of suburb again. Brooklyn feels like salvation after seeing deer and beauty supply stores on the same street.

10 04 2008
This My New Favorite Blog

All four of the statements above have a single sentence as their lowest common denominator:

“I am doing your black ass a favor by being so kind as to date you.”

I fell to ground in a fit of hysteric laughter. This is my new favorite blog ever!

10 04 2008
Mr. Smith

Not this again. We already went through this whole explanation as to WHY back with the same reason why Chris and a good number of others don’t date smart, beautiful black women. Because when we approached ya’ll when we were single, we were shot down like you were playing duck hunt. I am sorry you all have pointed out that we have “lost another one” but the thing is when I was marketable, it was the same song and dance of . I’m sorry you all put me in that category but damn if I’m going to give up a good thing just to please other people’s feelings before my own.

10 04 2008
Grimm

back to the topic… I have two things to address. The first being my inability to find a black man that I can relate to, and the second how I came to think that way..
1. I am Creole (yes, like Beyonce) so many people think that I am not black because I’m light skinned. In LA i was a yellow bone but in NYC everyone thinks im Puerto Rican because apparently in order to be black you can’t be light, pretty, or have long hair… After I officially gave up on black guys (they all wanted to be rappers or were in a gang and the ones I met in college-there are very few black males at colleges that are not all black- didn’t want black girls or did what I will address in #2) i decided to date non black guys because we had more in common anyway. But that just led to incidents like this:
Im at an upscale club like Marquee or Tenjune in NYC or at Villa in LA and Im dancing. A man, usually white/euro or asian, will ask me to dance by him and drink/sit at his table. He will proceed to say something like “What are you?”. When they find out I’m black american they tell me theyre shocked/never seen a black as pretty as me/usually don’t like black girls b/c they are ugly. That is usually follwed by “You are so beautiful. But I wouldn’t date you or anything…”
or… When you date them they tell you theyre surprised youre not ghetto/ignorant/a whore/on welfare and can string together cognitive sentances
or… want to play “master and slave” in the bedroom (true story)
It is like they are ashamed to date a black woman. So even though I have had several asian and white boyfriends I feel like a peice of meat they would never take home to ma and pa…
2. I had finally found a black guy I could relate to. He was into rock/emo/ska and skateboarding like me, we were both Abercrombie models, and he was nerdy too… the list goes on. And neither of us had ever dated a black person although we were both black. But then after two years I found out he was cheating on me with a japanese immigrant who spoke very little english. I left him but after that I can’t bring myself to respect a black man who would turn his back on a black girl to date someone who can’t bring him home. I was devastated because he was afraid to commit to me, but did so with her. They eventually broke up (b/c they both can’t bring the other home to ma and pa) and he wants me back. He was only attracted to how exotic and submissive she was, and was afraid of how serious we had become. He said that he felt lemented his bad decision and wanted to settle down with me and start a family. Of course I declined. I know my worth.
So to Chris and AF who felt bashed by women and what not, understand that it is sad when a non-stereotypical black girl dates an asian as opposed to a non-stereotypical black girl because while black men and asian women are everyones fetish, many black women can even find a descent guy of any race because our stereotype is negative… and it gets heard over and over again by the world in rap music. Why would the rest of the world want us if even black men don’t? And when you live in NYC (im bi-coastal) and see every other white man with an asian and every third black guy with an asian it starts to sting… And when i am dancing with my white/euro and asian guys at the club, there are plenty of black guys giving me the side eye… So the point is that Black guys can’t get black girls, black girls cant find black guys, and black guys want asians but it generally wont work so you should stop the fetish… and it is hard for black girls to date outside their race too

10 04 2008
Dom

^^^ Homegirl, you have FAR too many problems to be trying to sum them up in a blog. The saddest part is, you seem to buy into the stereotype these men have about black women AND black men!

You dont want to be degraded, but you place all balack men into three categories, and not one of them is positive or speaks to the way you want to be seen as a black woman. What type of sense does that make?

For those who are lost to self-hatered, there is no salvation. Seek help anyway…

10 04 2008
cessy

..Whoa…This is turning into a big, group therapy session. Whooosah, everybody, whooooosahhhh……

10 04 2008
DJStylus

All the folks that are disgusted with DC’s nightlife, I feel your pain… but if you go to LOVE you’re asking to be miserable.

The realness is here… black people making the most of what Chocolate City has to offer and celebrating our good creative energy and partying hard without the silliness of “the club”. Holla at ya boy, I’ll lead you out of the mire of wack bourgie happy hours and stanking up your good clothes just to be forced to dance to coon music.

And to the author of this blog, I stay rolling with a gaggle of real sistas. I’m willing to make introductions, homie. Therapy is expensive.

Regarding the O.G. topic of this post and the fun of inappropriate ethnic humor, I gots me a nice Korack (like Amerie) who can cook, quotes bell hooks and Talib Kweli, is curvy where it counts and teaches me phrases in Korean that get me hookups at the lunch spot near my job. Being from Seattle, she’s even got a fun inner white girl who loves Radiohead and hips me to cool indie rock bands.

10 04 2008
Redhead

My Smart Quote. *We are all pink on the inside* Sheesh.

10 04 2008
Grimm

@Dom
my post related to the original topic of the post: subtle racism. I explained why I dated outside of my race/how I experianced men who felt like they were superior to me just as chris did with asian girls. I included how my ex fell into the fetish trap, just as many black men do, to show how when I became one of those women who hated men who dated outside their race even though I had.

10 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

@ Grimm

damn homegirl

I’m starting to feel somewhat confused. Should I be happy or sad? what would be better, getting cheated on with a chickor your same race, or a chick from another race. Cheating is ass either which-a-way, but I personally would rather the chick be a way better catch than me, for ego purposes, of course

The men that I know whom cheated, cheated with wack bitches. But ( I guess?)at least they were wack black bitches? And let them tell it , they was just fucking them girls, they was goin get right back (naw that was Hova) but they claimed #1 they was just missing me and needed to hit something to slow the burn (it was a long distance relationship) or they claimed they freaked out when he thought that I was it (the one he was going to marry, i.e the last cooch he would get) and fucked some random chick so they could break up the relationship, only to regret it after the fact (ol’ idiots)

But with that being said, I have just came to the conclusion that, it is what it is. I am not going to dig deep into the trenches and figure out why the fuck people do what they do, or like who they like. All that matters to me is if we like eachother (for whatever reason) and we enjoy our time together. And if it ends (by whatever reason) you can take it as a “L”, not a Loss, but a Lesson (if you learned something from it), a Life experience (if you experienced something worth rememembering), or simply a Little chapter in your book(this is where ‘it is what it is” fits best). You might even get a “L”ifetime or “L”ongterm deal, but either which of way, it all amounts to something in the end

Ya’ll like all that consanance huh?

I knew you would

10 04 2008
Dom

But your reason for not dating black guys in the first place, the fact that they all wanted to be rappers or were in gangs, is both a gross over-exageration and a tired stereotype. Not only is it untrue, its so frusrtrating to hear bull shit like this from black people especially.

How can you be offended with stereotypes white/asian/euro men spew at you when you think the exact same thing of your own people? How can you be disgusted by the beauty ideals in rap videos when you basically look at rappers like trash anyway?

If you can’t see past your own ignorance, don’t expect to find a man of ANY race that does so either.

10 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“I experianced men who felt like they were superior to me just as chris did with asian girls”

Here the frick we go again. Please see my comments from yesterday, the relevant portion of which I’ve pasted below for your convenience, regarding my so-called feelings of ‘superiority’ over asian women. I swear…some girls just LOOK for reasons to get angry.

“Anyhow, I did not mean to imply that I thought I was doing anyone a ‘favor’ by dating them. It was simply my response to how I would look at asian women who think THEY’RE doing me a favor IF i was enough of an asshole to think that way.

Fortunately, my father did not raise that kind of a man.”

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Grimm… I’m really sorry that you feel the way you do… however the original topic regarded ASIAN women and how they discriminate about how they date. Additionally, I would suggest reading the ALL of the comments prior to where you chimed in and see if you feel a tad different.

10 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

My latest comment is awaiting moderation

Chris can you go approve me

Gracias

10 04 2008
Grimm

Here the frick we go again. Please see my comments from yesterday, the relevant portion of which I’ve pasted below for your convenience, regarding my so-called feelings of ’superiority’ over asian women. I swear…some girls just LOOK for reasons to get angry-Chris

I dont know how my post read (i typed it in between typing a stipulation) but it was supposed to read that i felt that the non black guys felt like THEY were superior to ME. not the other way around. Is that not the point of your frustration?? My point in general was to show how i felt the same way u did when i dated white men and cambodians, and how i relate to blk women who feel like its hard to find a good black man. sheesh!!

10 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

I got yo back GRimm

10 04 2008
Grimm

btw i was trying to identify with u… i think my words were misconstrued b/c when i scrolled back up it said “I experianced men who felt like they were superior to me just as chris did with asian girls”. i dont get how u thought i was bashing u. ouch : (

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Okay Grimm… I reread what you wrote and maybe it was misconstrued. I am truly sorry that you feel the way you do about black men… but I do believe you’re either

1) looking in the wrong places
2) have standards that may be
a) too high
b) too shallow
c) outside of the means of a good black dude.

That is not meant to be an insult… I’m just trying to touch on some reality. Unfortunately, you mentioned that all of the black men you went for were in gangs, wanted to be rappers, or were models. Well, most black dudes I know don’t qualify under any of these categories (though some may have a side hobby in music) so that topic is where I justify Section 2 dash b, above.

If a white dude is what you identify with… no problem. You do your thing. But again, I think the whole black men bashing should stop.

10 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

@Grimm

Alright, my bad. The way that sentence is written, it sounded like you were saying something else.

What can I say…I’m a grammar Nazi 😛

10 04 2008
Grimm

and finally to Domm,
that was my point. U would be lying if u didnt admit that the reason that many sucessful blacks who do not date blacks are opposed to doing so because they hate the stereotype of black people, may have felt like an outsider while growing up in the hood, and later found that they could not relate to their black counterparts… so they date outside their race because they feel that they are on the same level. I brought up my ex b/c thats why he dated the asian girl. I expressed how when i dated non black guys they stereotyped me too… This was to diminstrate the point that blacks dont stick together but in the end we only have eachother. BTW I have a black fiance now (he’s half asian) but i didnt include that earlier because im at work and needed to type something up…
so the point is i wanted to illustrate the way we think the way we do and why we do what we do.

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Grimm… if you’re happy now… we’re happy for you. 🙂

I think the point is that ALL of us are trying to get across is:

Black Women and Angry Ver 3.2 Beta HATE Grimy Black Dudes
Black Women hate black dudes who have issues
Black Men Hate black women who have issues
Black People hate sellouts who have little/shallow justification

Black People Hate George Bush

Black People love chicken.

Dammit Leroy

10 04 2008
Grimm

at AF- im not offended. I told my story to explain why some black women get bitter and to say why I decided to date outside my race. And those are the type of guys who approached me, the college guys werent interested, and Im a model/secretary so guys either think im dumb or are models too ; )
But.. like i just said i finally found a good black guy (black and thai, also a model in NYC) so ive let my bitterness over my ex go. I was just giving a female perspective.

10 04 2008
Grimm

at AF- im not offended. I told my story to explain why some black women get bitter and to say why I decided to date outside my race. And those are the type of guys who approached me, the college guys werent interested, and Im a model/secretary so guys either think im dumb or are models too ; )
But.. like i just said i finally found a good black guy (black and thai, also a model in NYC) so ive let my bitterness over my ex go. I was just giving a female perspective.

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Grimm, honey…..you’ve said some on point stuff, but I can’t get past the White and Asian guys had never met a Black girl as “pretty” as you? I’m not doubting your attractiveness, but I need for you to understand something- it’s not that you are so much prettier than these other sisters they’ve seen. It’s that you (from how you describe yourself) have Caucasoid/”exotic” features that these sort of men prefer over classicly African features. Thus, you resemble the other chicks they usually like.

Congrats on finding a brother to settle down with though!

10 04 2008
Grimm

Sistah Toldja-
I know that. Like i said im bi-coastal but in NYC there is a big caribbean and african population so i guess non blacks assume that ALL black people are dark skinned and (insert other black steroetype) so when u arent darker they are surprised that you are black. When i live in a spanish neighborhood no one bothered to speak english because they thought i was dominican or puerto rican… its a shame that people dont realize we come in all colors. and yes, girl, i hear that at the club so often i cant even bother to get mad anymore

10 04 2008
D

This is way off topic, but Admiral – you get down on the house music? which spots do you hit up in DC? I’ve never been into the new Fly, but when it used to be Red, it was pretty dope. Five is always aight when they have rooftop hiphop. DC folk can dance too, haven’t seen too many killer dancers in NY yet.

10 04 2008
Sianfroncco

On another note… if anyone wants to meet great black women and men in Baltimore, come to XS in Bmore tonight. I’ll be spinning there from 9:30-11:30

http://www.xsbaltimore.com

10 04 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Dude, Fly is an unmitigated disaster. Go somewhere else if you want to stay out of prison, because you will inevitably wind up smashing a beer bottle over the head of some pretentious jackass (both male and female).

Five…heh. Admiral can tell you what happened to our man Gunpowder at that godforsaken place.

10 04 2008
D

lol, i always walk by Fly and see the line out the ass so never bothered to go. Red was dope though, Sunday nights, not very crowded, and a lotta house heads. ha, 5 is always aiiight…as in if there are no plans, that is a place i wouldn’t mind being. would love to hear this story though.

10 04 2008
DJStylus

Every black person bemoaning the state of progressive social activities in DC should have gotten down when we took it to Harlem. Or got our reminisce on. Or cast our vote for the O.G. Black President.

I’m not trying to street team too hard, I just legitimately feel hurt that there are kindred spirits in my hometown who are missing out on really fun times. I refuse to cosign on the chicanery that defines a lot of popular social life options.

Keep in mind that if you’re looking for a decent woman, you’re not going to find her in a den of depravity and cultural retardation.

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Five… (sigh)

It indeed is one of the few spots to go hear some decent EDM… but the politics that commence in that bottom dwelling are overly atrocious. Unfortunately, our good friend Gunpowder experienced some of the most ridiculous hog wash that I’ve ever even seen in that place. Nearing the end of the night which featured some outstanding Drum and Bass, the incendiary powder was approached by a smut bouncer who had an obvious chip on his shoulder about his very life. Because of this complete and utter self revulsion this bouncer felt that his sole purpose in life be as malevolent as possible toward anyone and anything he felt was inferior to him. Picture him the big headed fool who insisted on stomping on unsuspecting ants for no apparent reason. Anyhow, this individual approached Gunpowder with the intent on making a scene. Gunpowder, who was standing around conversing, only had a cup of water in his hand… a necessary tool for both hydration and sobering after a long night of alcoholic consumption and perspiration. The bouncer had previously observed Gunpowder get this cup of water, as he had stood behind the gentleman at the bar during its purchase. (yes purchase… they are assholes like that)

The bouncer then tapped Gunpowder on his shoulder and instructed him very forcefully… “Its after 3am” (I think… can’t remember the hour) “Pour that out!”

Gunpowder looked at him perplexed at first… then softened his facial features into a smile (as he knew he didn’t have the energy to deal with an idiot bouncer),simply nodded his head, and acted as if he was moving toward the trash can to dump out his cup of water. The bouncer left, and Gunpowder went back to his business.

Not two minutes later… the bouncer came up to Gunpowder, who was still holding his water and grabbed him by the shoulder… “I told you to dump that! Time to go buddy!”

Gunpowder protested… “This shit is water… Look… Take a sniff!”

The bouncer got more belligerent, taking a fist full of shirt and pulling him away the three other DnB DJs he was talking to. They all stared in awe.

Gunpowder tried to put up a fight at first, but found his cup of water being wrenched from his hand and dumped into a nearby trashcan. His shoulders slumped as he was led down the stairs and out fo the premises.

Whats the problem?–you ask.

In DC… the law is you cannot serve alcoholic beverages after 3am… however water can be served. If an inspector comes into the establishment and find alcohol being consumed after (I think) 3:30… the establishment can be fined. There are no infractions for consumption of water. So not only was the bouncer a control freak… but he was wrong.

1024 ants were stomped while this comment was written

10 04 2008
Admiral Furious

D I do indeed spin house. If you wish to talk offline… holla at Chris… he can put you in contact.

10 04 2008
Sister Toldja

All my friends keep saying Fly is cool. Hmmm. I was in DC for a week last month, and damn if the ONLY club I made it to was K Street Lounge! Boo, MF, boooo! I’ll be back for a few weekends in May. I will probably end up doing the obligatory night before Howard’s Graduation at Love….I’m not gonna lie, that shit is FUN! Its like a drunk family reunion. Plus, I have stepped up my fly quotient about 15% since I left HU, so it’s my duty to let others bask in my glory.

The funnest club I ever went to in DC is Bohemian Caverns when they have a good DJ. I think Eye Bar had a few decent nights, but my memory is fuzzy.

10 04 2008
D

Admiral – def tite, we will be in contact. I hear a lotta new spots blowin up in DC too, gotta check them out them out the next time I’m in town.

Sister Toldja – haha i have the same experiences at eye bar too, never really remember what the inside of the club looks like, but always a pretty good time.

10 04 2008
thebusinesswoman

@Sista

I’ll see you at graduation as well!

10 04 2008
lisaturtle

OMG Admiral Furious…

You are SPOT ON about the fakery of the PG County Gangstas. When we first moved to MD I lived in Mitchellville (Woodmore, holla!) and then I moved to Crofton (where I grew up). Every time I meet someone from PG county they’re all, “OHH YOU’RE RICH. YOU LIVE IN CROFTON. WHITE GIRL. ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY.” I’m like, but… Crofton is next to Bowie. Buuuuut… Fort Washington is home to mainly doctor’s and lawyers. Buuuuuuuut… not only is PG County richer than AA county it’s the richest predominately black county in America. I am lost.

…And when I was at Clark Atlanta University (eww) there was all the lame ass MD people trying so hard to sound like they’re from DC and most of them were from PG County too. “Yeah we jah be like ‘blah blah blah’.” “You be loafin.” I don’t have time for all that bullshit. It’s funny, they kept calling me a white girl b/c of my accent (or lack thereof) when it was a PG County school that put me in speech class and took the Louisiana accent out of my speech. I like it. Those bammas irk my last nerve, I swear to you. I’m not saying Crofton isn’t well off but so is Bowie, Mitchellville, Fort Washington, Clinton, etc. UGH.

11 04 2008
leoninatl

Wow, interesting post and great conversation. I have half-Korean cousins, and some of the stuff they tell me about, whoa.

Anyways, I’m another ATLien in here, and I was seriously considering a move to DC. ATL is cool, but sometimes, I’m just plain burnt out and sick of this place. The fakery and fuckery is outta control. And the nightlife ain’t what it’s cracked up to be. All these fake knee-grows around here.

I have fam in PG County, in Oxon Hill off the Beltway. But I.dont.like.that.area.at.all…The farther out areas like Clinton and Upper Marlboro were nicer to me.

…and they all seem to have issues with black folks that live in MoCo and NoVa. Is there really that kind of stigma?

11 04 2008
maya

I think my comment from earlier was misconstrued. I am in no way insinuating that Black men didn’t appreciate smart Black women. I AM, saying, however the mainstream (read: White folk) do not. So for the person who attempted to truncate my comment into a single sentence, please scroll up to read my comments from yesterday as to how I feel about the Black man/Black woman dynamic. Muchas gracias.

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

I said it before and I’ll say it again… nowhere in this country can be any worse than the fake people that infest the L.A. area. Never in my life have I ever seen such a massive of superficial, materialistic idiots running around truly believing that they were all actors. Those who live in LA, (especially the Burbank/Hollywood area) truly had no substance to them whatsoever and everything about their existence orbited around the concept of the movie studios in the area. During my purgatory like jail sentence at Warner Bros. I experienced more politics and corruption that my 27 previous years in the DC area and more narcissism than even George Bush can even muster. Ironically enough, the people who had any culture and substance about themselves were the big named actors and actresses. Everyone else just wanted to front that “Oh I’m so LA… look at me… I’m so LA.” Oh and do not even get me started about the rude racists down there in Orange County… I hope the whole place gets swallowed by the next earthquake.

I’d much rather be in PG County… than Orange County. I’d rather be around a bunch of foolish N*s who front like they’re hard but really won’t do anything than be around a bunch of snobs who truly believe that they are of importance when their talentless behinds can only ride on their hopes and dreams that someone will discover them.

11 04 2008
lisaturtle

@leoninatl
“The fakery and fuckery is outta control. And the nightlife ain’t what it’s cracked up to be. All these fake knee-grows around here.”

Finally someone calls ATL out on it’s over-hypedness besides me.

@Admiral Furious
UGH @ LA. I have some friends who attend UCLA and now think they’re from LA. I can’t even deal with them anymore because of the “I’m so LA” attitude.

11 04 2008
Grimm

@AF
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions… but your angry rant about LA is such a generalization dude. When people find out im from LA they start stereotyping. People either love it or hate it, just like NYC, but no matter what places I go there are always pretentious people when you frequent the “indusrty” areas. When I go to Villa or Pure I walk right in, but theres always at least one guy who has to pay $80 at the door because the bouncer doesn’t think he’s “hot” enough. The same is true in NYC for Tenjune, Marquee, and even Home. NYC has just as many fake people. Thats just the industy events in general. Ive never been to DC but Im sure if I went out i’d experiance it there too.
It kills me that visitors have this preconcieved notion that everyone in LA has plastic surgery, is fake/shallow/etc… But remember many of the residents of WeHo (west hollywood) are not natives, have come from all over the world, and act that way because they are excited and want to be famous. As a born and bread southern Californian (LA!!!) I can attest that we are not all like that…
And I love orange county (I surf there). But youre right: its mostly whites and asians (residents) and mexicans (lawn attendants) if you catch my drift

11 04 2008
Anmarie

OMG would you just shut up already

sorry that was rude, but I can’t stand anymore of the wan wan wan. You’re pretty and take pictures of it for a living but not shallow, we get it.

Admiral where’s Chris? He didn’t go get born again did he?

11 04 2008
knaturalbeauty

AHAHAHAHAHAHA @ Anmarie. Thank you!
Don’t take it to heart Grimm. I’m from DC, and all the negative comments don’t bother me because it’s based on those folks’ experiences, so it is true. And DC does suck, so does NYC, LA, Atlanta, and every other city. All places have negatives and positives.
But seriously, I need my daily dose of SBPH crack.

11 04 2008
Sister Toldja

LOOOL!

I’m mixed too, you know. Half-Black, half-amazing.

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Grimm, you’re right, everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion and that is why I am going to stick to mine here. I was a resident of southern California for exactly 13 months, and I probably would have put a torpedo through my skull had I stayed there any longer. Generalization as my opinion may be… I think that I have just a bit of a justification for it indeed. Let me give an example. Good Morning LA (on a news channel I cannot recall) focuses more on what Paris Hilton had for breakfast than what is actually going on in the real world: like politics, weather, traffic, etc. Also, I don’t recall the woman’s name, but she’s blonde and very very… how should I say… outspoken. She’s now one of the spokespeople for Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers. Anyhow… her getting on a news cast and talking about young men sucking on her boobies (this was while was apparently pregnant) has nothing to do with what is happening on the I-5 and a Sig Alert was fired off for it. This is just one example of what I experienced as things being a little backwards out there.

Onto the fakeness… I saw more women out there in Burbank with boob jobs, face lifts, ass jobs, and anything else that could be asthetically/artificially modified on their bodies than ANY other city I’ve ever been to. Sorry that I jump on the bandwagon that so many other people ride regarding everyone having plastic surgery. But let me move onto the people who make 25 grand a year, live at home, yet drive a Mercedes… Wait do I really need to go there? I don’t think so… the logic should speak for itself.

Now I’m not saying that DC, Miami, NYC, or any other major metropolitan area doesn’t have its share of fake fuck face people… because its everywhere. But the vast majority of people that I experienced… who truly believe that they are the next coming of Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie is preposterous. I continue to ask the question of… why do people front like they’re high society… whey really aren’t… never will be… and know nothing about how it is to live in high society?

Morons… I’m going to write a little story (which could effectively happen anywhere, but there are some key points that I want everyone to note when reading this)

While in LA… my GF and I had been invited to a winter party at the home of one of her Sorority Sisters. The gathering was a semi-pleasant massive of about 20 people (about an even ratio of females to males) who all had college educations from various Cal State Schools (Long Beach, Fullerton, etc). Only two people there had technical degrees: myself and one other girl (the significance of this will come later). The mingling commenced, in which I participated but was not completely thrilled. The primary topics of conversation were based on what actors and actresses were signing up at the Disney Corporation and who was going to try and rub shoulders with whom. Mind you, only one person worked at Disney and he was a mail clerk. The rest worked at various places in Pasadena as customer service representatives and actively complained about their horrifically long commute to work from wherever they hailed from. The traffic part of course caught my attention, but being that I could literally walk to work from the Oakwoods, I knew very little of the rush hour commute.

Anyhow… later in the evening, we all sat down to watch the Boondocks (season 1…. which by the way is utterly hilarious if you don’t know about it). Now… I’m going to give you some parameters: DVD player is sitting on the carpeted floor, hard cover school books are stacked on top of it, and its sitting in a corner pressed against both walls. 20 minutes after turning on the program, the DVD player shut off.

People were hysterical. And no one could understand why the machine had shut itself off.

I pipe up… “that thing has no way of breathing. It needs to vent.”

The girl with the Double E degree agreed. But then the wanna be boxer who worked at Disney piped in with the most condenscending voice “hehe… uh… that thing can’t breave… hehehe.”

Other chuckles came from the crowd… and nothing was done about the DVD players situation. They continued to try and restart the DVD player and make it work, only to continue to have the same performance it displayed not 2 minutes earlier. To make the rest of this short… I told my GF it was time to go.

Upon the beginning of our departure… one of the dudes sitting next to the boxer asked me what I did and who I worked for. I told him. Hearing I worked at a studio he piped up, but I remained guarded about all of my information. Then he asked me where I was from. Upon learning I was from DC he then asked…

“You’re not another one of those east coast kats coming out here hating on LA are you?”

Maybe… was what went through my head but I was cordial and said, “Its different. Its going to take some getting used to.”

That was month 3 of 13.

I’m not going to sugarcoat anything about my opinion of Los Angeles. It sucks. Period. And I wouldn’t be mad at you if you came to DC and said “You know… all these people in DC are a bunch of right wing, republican, racists who have sticks shoved so far up their asses that leaves are sprouting from their mouths” because that generalization is pretty much true. And I recognize and agree with it. But in fact, DC is nowhere near as republican as San Diego… particularly Coronado Island.

11 04 2008
Lolo

@Anmarie aka my new internet crush
Will you have my children?

Not in a lezzer way, I mean, if I put them on the bus today, will you have my children?

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

BTW… how many people here can figure out what was wrong with the DVD player?

Anmarie… I’m not exactly sure of his whereabouts now… but he was online earlier absolutely kirking out about Sex and the City. (shrug) He’s probably just busy.

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Damn… my book is not complete…

11 04 2008
Anmarie

ROTFLMAO! Lolo you’re my new internet crush! haha I’m might be leaving the brothers for an Asian chick too. Too bad we can’t make Asian black babies there’s so cute! I know I’m ignorant

Admiral I love you like a play cus’ but i’m gonna print this last book you wrote bind it and then come to DC and beat you with it. Then we can go get some bbq chicken.

I need a nap, fuck this damn job!

11 04 2008
Grimm

OMG would you just shut up already
sorry that was rude, but I can’t stand anymore of the wan wan wan (?)

There are so many double standards out there that its perplexing. How is it that it is deemed socially acceptable for big girls, dark skinned girls, “real” women etc. to bemoan the way they are viewed and generalized by the whomever… but once a thin, fair skinned, or hell, “person who takes pictures for a living” brings up any gripes it is whining? Am I not entitlted to dish my opinions just as my counterparts do? And furthermore, are my views about the non-plausible, profusely exaggerated comments made by AF any less valid than the aforementioned statements that provoked me to post in the first place, because he is him and I am me? That is some straight up foolywangery right there…

11 04 2008
maya

anmarie, sister toldja and AF are my new favorite people. LOL!!!

11 04 2008
Anmarie

Grimmy poo, I know that was rude.

Actually… I don’t know how you or Admiral look, but I’d sure like the both of you to shut the fi-uck up about fake ass LA. (no offense AF but gotdamn)

“How is it that it is deemed socially acceptable for big girls, dark skinned girls, “real” women etc.”

Not sure what you mean by any of this but, Fool I’m Cute.

And see you’re so self obsessed you assumed it was about how you looked, it more about your run on sentences, and lack of paragraphs.

Damn i promised myself to stop cussing.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

*it’s more

11 04 2008
maya

i mean, Grimm, speaking as a skinny, darskinned person, i’m going to have to go with my initial thoughts and say “life isn’t fair that way.” because that’s the same argument that white people use all the time, and i’m not really open to hearing that, either. it’s not that you aren’t allowed to speak on your station in life, it’s just that understand that certain stations get you certain places. that’s not any fault of yours, just the way the world works. i’ve sat and bitched about the downsides and being small, and was told to “just the fuck up” almost instantaneously. it is what it is, and i get it. i’m not going to lie, though…that “creole” business irks my soul as a “regular” black. and before you give me the lecture about the spanish and french influnces, yes, i know. i’m well versed. but for those of us who most likely had british and french (my last name is francis) massahs coming to the slave shacks…do we get a special name, too? lol.

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Anmarie… will you fucking stop fucking cussin!

The double standards are what wreak havoc here. Hasn’t anyone seen that yet?

11 04 2008
Grimm

sorry that was rude, but I can’t stand anymore of the wan wan wan. You’re pretty and take pictures of it for a living but not shallow, we get it.

And see you’re so self obsessed you assumed it was about how you looked, it more about your run on sentences, and lack of paragraphs
Anmarie

if your first comment had included something about the structure of my comment rather than how i look and my job, which by the way did not bring up in my post to AF- you did, i may have thought otherwise.

11 04 2008
Lolo

@Admiral,

Man, you are far more patient than you need to be. First off, you have a GF so it’s not like you have to worry about reeling Grimm in, unless you’re padding your backup list cuz we all know that’s not always a bad plan ….

Grimm, LA sucks like a crank whore at a truckstop but that doesn’t mean that YOU suck so settle down, noone’s saying that your family is the reason that LA is shittier than anal porn.

The only way that living in LA doesn’t suck hole is if you are at least tier two as far as industry employment, meaning at least a PA to first tier talent. The rest of everyone else, from the accountant to the caterer to security to the busboy at the fucking Baja Cantina is desperately posing to at least get a meeting with someone, anyone, who can get them in. It’s all about making it look like you’re doing well enough to not neeeed that meeting and so you get the rented flash cars, the plastic bewbs, the nice business card but renting a single at the Oakwoods while trying not to look as though you give half the fuck you so desperately do.

This also results in fallout like some asshat real estate broker who sold a condo to the writer on Entourage before he made it, acting like he’s got some pull and so some wannabe model who posed for an ad in the back of Hustler is on his arm but that’s just until they get in the club before they both ditch each other.

Now, you add the average hour in your car to get to ANY place that’s worth being seen at and it’s seriously amazing that there aren’t more road ragers and overdoses in that “city” and city is a complete misnomer for a geographical abortion that is tied together by a freeway system that is a clustefuck filled with mouthbreathers of every hue and ability.

Are there great places to go, if you know the right people or have the right look that the right people want? Absolutely. Are there great places to eat, walk, dance, etc., etc.? Of course. Is it worth all the crap you gotta deal with? Well. You’re living in NYC now so you tell me. Or not.

(insert standard disclaimer here to protect against any offense taken or received)

11 04 2008
Anmarie

LOL, my bad kid, I know I’m like an old drunk sailor.

No double standard, i just hate the writing style.

“big girls, dark skinned girls, “real” women ” -wait what are you trying to say about these type of women? Maybe I’ve been subconsciously reading jerk between the lines and it’s a vexation to my soul.

11 04 2008
Grimm

lol @ AF and Maya.
@maya good point. Skinny people can not complain about our grievances to the general public… maybe you should coin a special term for being of afro-anglo-fracis decent. what do you think of mulAnglo? and btw, not all creoles are light skinned.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

Grimm – wan wan wan

I said that cause that;s what you keep pointing out

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Honestly… I’m just having a good ole time on this board, just like everyone else. Thats all. 🙂 No backup plan at all. None indeed. (shrug) In the end we all have love for everyone else and NO ONE can deny that.

Presenting facts and opinions on an educated level and watching the ensuing response is an exceptional method of bringing together people to an understanding. Then establishing rhetoric and hypocrisy to contradict those facts and opinions on many levels can be used for hilarity.

I’m not going to say anything else about LA because I’m afraid Anmarie might find a harpoon and shove it through my chest.

11 04 2008
Grimm

Anmarie,
i brought up my job to explain to AF why I’ve dated models… I mentioned it once, and only once. Also, i brought up big girls b/c they can talk about hating skinny people; dark skinned girls because sometimes when youre lighter you get the side eye for chiming in on black issues (think Naima from ANTM during the Africa trip-granted she never stressed it before but still); “real women” because every zine on the stand has a mob of them saying how they hate skinny celebs/models and how anerexic etc they are, but their counterparts get attacked when they gripe.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

Grimm,

1. Don’t go throwing punctuation here and there all willy nilly on my account.

2. Actually, I was annoyned that you keep going on and on and on. So I picked on something you were obviously proud of like the fact that racist men tell you you’re better looking than other black girls. But I didn’t want to touch a sore spot like: you going on and on about the boyfriend cheating with the woman that can’t speek english, or the fact that you live in LA and you’re proud of it. That would just be to hurtful for no reason.

How we have better understanding now.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

PS nothing personal but geesh your comments are just really hard to read and as a reader that bothers me.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

PPS
you know you could have just called me an asshole and kept it moving (iam being a jerk) but NOOOOOOO, you’ve got more and more explaining to do.

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

Okay okay okay… aight lets back it down here.

I’m going to throw this out there and say its my fault for causing the issue between Grimm and Anmarie right now. Ladies you’re both beautiful black women who shouldn’t be fighting against each other or against your black males. Remember that.

George Bush on the other hand…

11 04 2008
Lolo

@Anmarie

Ahem. “speek english” In the context of that sentence, the correct wording/spelling should be “speak engrish”.

Oh god, the irony is not nearly as funny as anything that Chris ever posts.

He’s punishing us, isn’t he?

11 04 2008
Anmarie

PPPS

nooooo I just read your response to me fully. Oh no you didn’t reference America’s Next Top Model.

I’m light skinned and I talk about racial issues all day every day, and people listen because i know what I’m talking about, even read a real book or two on the topic. Perhaps there’s a different reason you’re getting the side eye… just a thought.

11 04 2008
Anmarie

LOLO
TYPO! fool

11 04 2008
knaturalbeauty

um, there’s another post now 🙂

11 04 2008
Anmarie

AF I;m not fighting, it’s friday, I’m bored.
It has nothing to do with you. And please you have a fight with someone everyday. But u have a point.

Grimmmmm… Im sorry 😦 I’m just sleepy. You forgive me… I’ll send you my headshot. 😉

11 04 2008
Lolo

@Anmarie

You say typo, I say Flying Freudian Fingers of Rage, same diff. As long as you weren’t taking a cheap shot at Grimm’s ex-BF’s FOB new girlfriend.

Oh look!! New post from the Master of Hatred!

11 04 2008
Admiral Furious

My dearest Anmarie… I don’t fight either. 🙂 You said it best… we’re bored.

Either way… new topic posted. AND IT IS MOST FUNNY!

11 04 2008
Jocolate

@ AF apparently they needed to get the damn thing out of the corner for ventilation but hey Im no techie.

Ive met several of the chics in the aformentioned categories, there are lots in Houston. Many are from around here or come from NO for school and end up at UH, UT etc.

My friends & I call Cat 2-3 girls “pledges.” As in they’re not quite white chics but are pledging the soro & will do whatever it takes to get in.

12 04 2008
BaaNJi girl

I LEAVE FOR A week, trying to mitigate a minor addiction to Chris’ blog here, change my name and IT GOES DOWN..and i missed IT! Shucks

@ chris, im a pancake feign myself (FRENCH TOAST OVA pancakes though)… have spots in DC (Smokeys) and Lala land( Norms) that i fucks w just for pancakes…where do u go? Days u have to make em’ urself–whats the recipe?
And why the love?

12 04 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

Bisquick, 2 eggs, 1/2 cup of milk. Stir, cook. At least thats how I make them.

12 04 2008
Sister Toldja

Bisquick pancakes? EWWWWWW! Those were the bain of my youth because my mom made them and they were always terrible! I feel like a bad Black woman for this, but if you aren’t gonna do scratch….you need to use Aunt Jemima.

OMG, I am a terrible person.

12 04 2008
BaaNJi girl

eww to bisquick.

15 04 2008
Chelle

At first I got excited by you mentioning you need a black girlfriend (because I’d love the gig as you’re frickin hilarious), then I remembered reading either in your bio or elsewhere that you don’t date sisters because three shortsighted sisters were mean to you in junior high, or something like that…

15 04 2008
JJ

What were the ethnicities of your other Asian girlfriends? Just curious…

I notice that most successful, educated, and *attractive* White men don’t seriously date Asian women from impoverished countries. They might go to Cambodia, the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, or Thailand and fuck a few young ones who look like little boys, that’s about it. However for serious relationships, they usually go for similarly educated ones from developed areas like Japan who won’t be viewed by their social circle as someone from “the other side of the tracks.” ie, they don’t want to date someone who seems poor (which is why you won’t find them dating indigenous-looking Mexicans either…).

Most Asian women would love to get one of these White men, but some simply cannot and *settle* for an ugly White man. If they cannot get that, then they *settle* for a Black men. That is why when you do see Black men and Asian women couples, most of the women are of Southeast Asian origin… and a large portion aren’t very educated either.

I wouldn’t date someone who feels that they’re *settling* to be with me. That is where the “I’m doing you a service” attitude stems from. But MOST of the Black men who date these types of women are so busy beating their chests like dumb gorillas on the inside, while parading their women around who no one else wants, that they fail to see this or simply don’t care because they think their Me-Love-You-Long-Time’s are better than a sistah so the attitude is warranted…

16 04 2008
JIP

Hilariously funny post. Being a korean male who went to 99% black house school, maybe I can offer some insight. First of all, not all asians are equal. You can’t lump 4+billion people into one category. Where does the Indians (from India) belong in this discussion. 2nd, not all east asians are equal. Japan is totally different than Korea is, which is totally different than China. Just because they are next to each other does not denote any form of similarity. It’s similar to Great Britain – France – Spain. So do not try to understand those three. Of those three countries in east asia, blacks will have the greatest chance with chinese ladies. Again, china is like a USSR, not all parts are the same. And some of the observances are correct, Koreans tend to be the most racists of all three, but we love it. It partly comes from our religious heritage, confucionsism, where family solidarity is tops. So a girl will tend to listen to family value over individual value. So young ones are not that racist, but will conform to what older people tell us.

Having said that, I and most korean Americans would choose 100% black neighborhood over 100% white neighborhood, anyday. Why, because we know about racism in this country fairly well. In fact, most blacks are racist as much as white are to asians, maybe even more so, except we know that blacks suffered under whites. And we know that we won’t get lynched by blacks, though they might not like us. I do fear that when I roll through west virginia, and goto McD and everyone white hick stares at you. It doesn’t matter that I’m driving a BMW, Lexus, etc., they just think we’re some exotic exhibit.

I definitely agree 100% about asian-women’s self esteem. Why do whites date so many ugly asians? I’ve rarely seen hot asian women dating ugly white dudes, but I’ve seen sooooooo many ugly asian girls date decent looking white guys. And the kicker is, they think they’re better than you. It’s like this, if you have a choice between avg asian guy who doesn’t give a d*mn about where you go or stay, or a avg white guy who worship the ground you walk at, which would you choose?

16 04 2008
Mrs.Epps

HA this was so true. My friend is Korean and she only dates white guys too. I asked her one day why i never seen her date other than white guys and she said because black men scare her. Im like honey stop watching The Wire! She says that white men are pretty stupid and she can get them to do whatever she wants other than a black man who doesnt take no shit! But yea I know a asian guy that is 6’3 and he only dated black girls. And question not to be mean but why do asian women smell like shrimp fried rice like 24/7?!! LOL like foreal has anyone else experienced the weird smell of asian ppl?

” Old Asian women tend to morph in to trolls (so do some Latinas)”.- OMGGGG ahhahahahaha to fuckin funnnyyyyy i choked on my water when i read that.

I think my Aunt is a cat. 4 She is Korean and married my uncle who is black and puerto rican and had my little mutt cousins ahha. And damn Asian women really have no body poor ladies. Chris you should also add to that list when asian women get drunk/tipsy they get all red in the face like a cherry. 🙂

16 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Mrs. Epps: DEAD @ “shrimp fried rice”! My friend say this crazy White man was at the airport the other week talking about how all White people smell like wet dog (cough, kinda true, cough) and how all Black people smell like cocoa butter. I can live with that!

In defense of Asian people’s smell, I think it comes from the food they eat. People with diets high in garlic, onions, etc. tend to have a smell. White people smell like dogs because they love them so much. Black people smell like cocoa butter cause we are so…uh, awesome?

16 04 2008
Mrs.Epps

@Sister Toldja : we are awesome! and your right it does come from the diet and the high garlic and onions. It like with alcoholics they always smell like boose even when their not drinking.

16 04 2008
Mrs.Epps

and damn I do smell like cocoa butter all the time hahah!

17 04 2008
Melissa

I’m an Asian woman and I don’t seem to fit into any of those catergories. Then again I guess I could be a 4, but I’ve only ever dated black men. I’m also one of those few Asians who have a booty, boobs (huge at that), lips, etc. But maybe I don’t count because I’m 1/4 white.

17 04 2008
Anmarie

White people smell like that because of their hair texture it holds water for a long time as do dogs (similiar hair texture).

17 04 2008
Sister Toldja

@ Melissa- What did we ever do to you? Just curious.

17 04 2008
Shadow Star

My buddy is dating an asian girl, I think she’s a number four but her family might be five-ish. When they heard that he wanted to talk to them about something important, they were like,”she’s pregnant huh?”
They were right, but still. Benefit of doubt? Dude couldn’t have been trying to propose or anything?
At least she’s cute though and not a fugly one. That’dve been awful.

18 04 2008
gamewarden

Yeah I’ve dated a Loatian girl with a Choleric personality
she was chasing the American dream til her boyfriend Who was a whyte boy got busted then she moved in with me because she had no place to go, needless to say it didn’t last because she was jealous.
And then when I visited Japan I met a humble young lady who new more about R&B than I could imagine, for my Birthday she took me to the Oaska Bluenote to see Russell Thompkins jr and the Stylistics it’s obviously a different world in Japan.

Game Warden

17 05 2008
chlorophyll

I really hate the racial politics that are involved in interracial relationships. It’s difficult to be a minority in America because even relationships with your own kind are subject to questions regarding your motivations to be with the person, along with a paranoia that your partner of the same race secretly finds the dominant white race to be more attractive. It sucks, and I envy white couples because of the fact that they don’t have to put up with those issues in their relationships. I feel as though the spaces alloted for minorities and especially minority women in America are so narrow, and again — it’s difficult.

18 05 2008
just.ness

great article! seriously.
i only have three mini points (that may have been covered in the comments, but there are SO many to read!):
“This six-decade epidemic of yellow fever has left the modern asian woman with a sense of her own beauty as overinflated as a black woman’s is underinflated.”
Just a touch of emic, if you will… what you perceive as “overinflated” may actually be partly cautionary tactics against asianphiles.
and a touch of insight from another perspective… interestingly enough, when participating in self-esteem studies, your “underinflated” is equal to among the highest self-esteem in north america. further, the “modern” asian woman compared to the “modern” black woman, in developed countries, has many many many folds more eating disorders, self-esteem issues, and body image problems.
i really did enjoy your article and feel most of it is point on, however… last point:
while you point out that “99% OF ASIAN WOMEN DON’T HAVE ANYTHING BLACK MEN WANT”, you forget to mention what percentage of black men are like yourself?
– #4 “asian woman” (of Chinese ethnic origin to be specific)

http://untrueconsciousness.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/interracial-approach-to-asian-women/

5 06 2008
DottyWine

This is the post that made me find you. And its interesting. I went to get tutored in physics and the boy tutoring me was dating an asian girl I am aquintanced with. He told me about his friend who was dating a Chinese girl. I said “Wow. Its hard for me to imagine an asian girl wanting to date someone who’s not asian.” I wanted to add “Unless he’s white”. He said “Yeah, but I think asians like white guys” and I wanted to say “Ding ding ding!”

8 08 2008
M

As an african (yeah you heard right- we use computers too you know) who has lived both in the west (England) and the east (malaysia/singapore – where i currently am) i have experienced a lot of what you are talking about firsthand.

Asian girls are total whores for white guys (caucasian)- TRUE
Asian girls fear/loathe black guys- TRUE

But it is not as black and white as that. Indian girls (who are asian too – right?) are often with black guys. Although asian girls generally consider dating a white guy the greatest accomplishment, asian girls, even westernised ones aren’t above dating a “cool” asian.

I think your categorizations are based on asian girls living in the west and “westernised” ones living where ever. For example, chinese girls (the ones not too immersed in western culture to think that white ppl are superior) are remarkably unbiased. Malay girls weternised or not generally stya the fuck away from blacks.

ps: in all my 19 years i have never seen an asian guy with a black girl….funny.

8 08 2008
chaoticdiva

M….I dated an Asian guy. Happy first day of your life.

Oh, and my black girlfriend did as well.

10 08 2008
Jess

Great post- and extremely interesting to hear the point of view from your perspective- because coming from a city totally lacking in diversity, I don’t see many interracial couples, and most of those interracial couples are…yes…Asian and white.

I don’t date, period. But if I did date, I think I’d fit in #1- and that’s because as a first generation Korean-American daughter, I have a responsibility to my non-English speaking parents. These non-English speaking parents of mine have pretty much told me they want me to marry a Korean guy- which is why I don’t date. Because I figure that dating is completely pointless if I’m going to have to marry a Korean guy anyway. But the reason that dating outside of the race becomes such an issue especially for Koreans are the historical behaviors of both black and white American soldiers in Korea- and the negative social connotations of Korean women who married them. Back then, if you were poor, if you were hungry, you either slept with an American soldier for money, or you married them to escape the poverty. And those implications haven’t totally been erased to the point where Koreans are considered xenophobic, and maybe even racist. As both women and as daughters, it is our responsibility to take care of our parents, to do our best to follow their wishes, and to do our part. We don’t always fit in category #1 because we necessarily want to, and I don’t want to say that I pick #1 because I feel like I don’t have a choice- I just choose my parents and my family over myself. My likelihood of success with #1 is slim because I don’t fit into the “ideal” Korean girl type for Korean guys- rare for a Korean girl, but I have a booty, I have boobs, and I’d like to think, a little humility (and in total, 8 out of the 10 off of your list)- but I figure that the worst case scenario is that I do what my parents did- get matchmade and marry if we’re compatible. I’d also like to be appreciated for who I am rather than an image that I may present, which is why I DON’T go for white guys (another stereotype to which I subscribe, i.e., white guys interested in Asian girls have yellow fever). And being appreciated for being outspoken, opinionated, and strong- which is why I WISH I could choose to date NOT just Korean guys- because I also subscribe to the stereotype that Asian guys tend to like very feminine, not-so-opinionated, not-so-angry-Asian-girl type of girls. And I don’t care what race a guy is, if they’re ugly, they’re ugly. I do not so devalue myself that I “take what I can get,” even if I have to settle for dates set by a matchmaker.

Benjie- Ernie Reyes Jr. is also extremely short (I believe no taller than 5’5″), but yes, he does have a body of a god, and he can do some crazy tricks.

10 08 2008
dmarc

This particular post is why “The Man” still holds minorities down in America.

Out of the entire US population of 300 million, only 5% identify as being of Asian descent- the majority of which are second generation American immigrants, meaning they are the first people in their respective families born on American soil. The baggage of being in-between cultures really informs the experience of many of these Asian Americans- that’s why Asians are so screwed up in America.

Having an Asian friend does not give you “insight you couldn’t get from reading books”- it gives you ONE opinion. Dating four Asian women does not mean you have the entire ethnicity figured out- at most, you may have some insight on Asian American females. At worst, which I find far more likely, you simply haven’t met the right ones.

I am a 5’9 Chinese American guy- most of my closest friends, also Chinese American, are at least 5’10 if not over 6 feet. Because of that, I have never been asinine enough to agree that Asian guys are short- I’d be blatantly lying. I live in Los Angeles- perhaps the metropolitan area with the highest Asian concentration outside of Hawaii. I have seen numerous Asian women with big NATURAL tits and asses, crowds of Asian American youth immersed in hip-hop culture (Def Poetry Jam, all the Asian American DJs and graffiti artists, and America’s Top Dance Crew anyone?), and Asian American families going out to eat a normal dinner on a Friday night- JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

Bottom line- Asian Americans are so damn confused because everyone else thinks they’ve got them figured out, so these poor, impressionable, second-generation kids buy into it…

Then, years later, many travel abroad and realize the truth- The Asian experience in America is a sad and demeaning one- not comparable to the experience of blacks or Latinos, but in many ways, much worse. We play Uncle Tom and get into colleges and good jobs, but at the price of our dignity. And you clowns just eat it all up, because your “black social consciousness” needs to comment on things you have no idea about.

To sum things up- at least 50% of this blog post (and the vast majority of the commenters, black, white, Asian, or otherwise) are full of shit. If you come in with a chip on your shoulder and view Asians as inferior/the tool of the white man/all of the above, you need to think about what YOU are about, and whether or not YOU feed into the “subversive racism” that continues to plague America.

10 08 2008
dmarc

And I’ll respond to the last two posters just for the heck of it-
M-
For a 19 year old, you seem to think your experiences sum up the world a great deal. Of course, everyone is a product of their individual experiences, but I think it would be wise to keep in mind that YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE YOUR OWN, DECLARING GENERALITIES DOES NO ONE ANY GOOD. I am not the sum of all wisdom, but neither are you- but from the looks of things, I’ve seen a lot more than what you have.

I’m 22 and I’ve met dozens of black-asian couples, mostly black male and asian female (examples of which include Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, and Filipino- Take your pick. Asian enough for you?), and it is not as rare as you think. And believe it or not, there are many Asians in America who would much rather tolerate a black man with an Asian female than a dumbass Asian girl with a White goofball.

Jess-
Until you get over whatever perceived responsibilities your parents forced on you, you will never be truly free. Just because your parents want you to date Korean does not mean you are liberated if you choose to do the opposite- that’s just childish. Pursue whomever you feel would make you a better person and be a good mate- regardless of color.

BUT, don’t choose someone just because you’re raging against mommy and daddy- needless to say, it’s a very poor and foolish way to pursue a lifelong companion. If you meet the perfect guy and he just so happens to be Korean, will your parents’ words hold you back?

If your parents’ words have that much hold over you, to the point where you feel confined by them, that is truly tragic.

11 08 2008
scarletjones

“And you clowns just eat it all up, because your “black social consciousness” needs to comment on things you have no idea about.” -dmarc

what does this even mean?

“And I’ll respond to the last two posters just for the heck of it-
M-
For a 19 year old, you seem to think your experiences sum up the world a great deal. Of course, everyone is a product of their individual experiences, but I think it would be wise to keep in mind that YOUR EXPERIENCES ARE YOUR OWN, DECLARING GENERALITIES DOES NO ONE ANY GOOD.” -dmarc

didn’t you do the same thing in the previous statement quoted above? It was pretty general, although so confusing that question #1 still stands.

18 08 2008
Zuz

This is so depressing, but finely your weird love-hate-hate-hate relationship with Asians from the other posts gets it’s explanation.
The depressing part is that you seem extremely uninterested in the idea that Asians in America have their own social, economic and political issues confronting them that they might want you to have a basic knowledge of.

25 08 2008
tomtom

What is this crap that asian women can’t cook? It is WHITE women that can’t cook.

1 09 2008
togirl

Please don’t lump all Asians together. The type of Asians you referred to
were 3rd world Asians. Hence they’d date any ugly ass white boys they encountered so to increase the possibility of moving to America. I’m a white washed Asian that’d date any race. And no, I’m not from a war torn country nor do i have a “tough” childhood. So please stop being such a racist.

1 09 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

You ask me not to lump all asians together…

“Please don’t lump all Asians together.”

…then proceed to lump them all together yourself…

” The type of Asians you referred to were 3rd world Asians. Hence they’d date any ugly ass white boys they encountered so to increase the possibility of moving to America.”

So in response to your request…

“So please stop being such a racist.”

…you first, idiot.

1 09 2008
togirl

lol.. now there’s no need for name calling

2 09 2008
KC

Excellent post! But one tiny quip:

A lot Asian girls DO have lips! Seriously. Fucking luscious ones!

8 09 2008
Amy

Within the diversity of Toronto where I live, most of us are ethnic of sorts, or ethnically mixed. My best girl friend is mixed Scottish-Canadian and Armenian-Egyptian. She prefers to date the “Mike McWhites” of the world (my term). Her complaint is that “all white men in Toronto want or have an Asian girlfriend”. Her newest lament is: “Asian is the new Black – it goes with everything”. I find her dismay to be humourous, since I don’t date Mike McWhites and they don’t seem to particularly interested in me either (being of Polish/Russian/Mediterranean Jewish ancestry), but it’s got me observing couples in public now, just to see if she has a point. Now my friend’s intro line to any white man she might be interested in dating is, “Oh, I’m Asian. I’m just CaucASIAN”, which makes me laugh, since she clearly isn’t either.

11 09 2008
Samia

I’m bewildered as to why people are offended by this post. I thought it was funny. I’m Indian-Bangladeshi and some of my people have such retarded tendencies I actually avoid my own kind until someone proves they’re *not* a prejudiced asshat. I’ll date anyone who isn’t stupid, but I’ve kind of concluded that the white guy thing is not for me. It’s impossible to really discuss issues of race and gender with people who see activism, awareness and community organizing as cute hobbies, and I can’t take that.

I wouldn’t mind dating a second-gen Asian but a lot of us are hellbent on conforming to the model minority stereotype, which includes being good obedient immigrants/second-gens who mind our own business, stay out of politics, don’t take sides, and cheerfully ignore the brown/black people who regularly get fucked over by whites in this country. Fuck that.

I don’t know why a woman of any race would date a black man as a “favour” to him. I’d prefer a Latino or black guy just because I’d probably have a little more in common with him than similarly educated whites/Asians. In the end, though, it all depends on the hotness x education x availability equation. 😉

As for Asian female stereotypes, I’m brown, have a big ass, full lips, big boobs and a narrow waist, which means my entire extended, buttless family has been telling me I’m fat since I was 12 (thanks for the issues!). It also means I’ll occasionally get hit on by some black/white American dude who buys into the whole submissive little Indian girl thing and says something stupid thinking he’ll get away with it. Then I open my mouth and the “OH SHIT” look spreads across his face. Makes my day every time.

P.S.: Does anyone else hate the word “exotic” as a descriptor of a non-white person’s appearance? What the hell is that bullshit?

11 09 2008
nelo

I do. It’s stupid.

11 09 2008
ds

holla

11 09 2008
jay snicka

you are a typical ignorant nigger ….asian women dont want you because you are unemployed uneducated smelly poor hygeine and the list goes on and on why do you think alot of black women are going else where to get dick not because of any stereotype which lets be honest nigger i am white and i have a big dick and i was in the military so i saw plenty of brothas with small dicks asshole ….they dont want you because of your typical bullshit …look get over it slavery is gone and by the way in history just about every race has been slaves at one time or another. you pathetic piece of black trash get the fuck out of my beautiful country …..see i am american and proud of it this is the great melting pot but i guess ebonically speaking you didnt know that so here’s how it goes color is flavor we are all the same we bleed the same we love we live we die ….but people like you fuck it up with your bullshit…if you hate us so much and this country get the fuck out go back to your grass hut all full of aids and famine and all kinds of other nasty shit …what dont want to go back …typical …there are no african americans only americans so if you dont want to be then get out and stop hating on asian women who you probably couldnt get a fine one because you have no skills …or should i ask you where did you metriculate from ……in small words where did you go to school …..take a good look around nigger your a dying breed asshole it’s 2008 and the world is much smaller ..open your eyes and see the beautiful diversity out there all women are beautiful regardless of race …..beauty is in the eye of the beholder ..so stop hating on people and get a life !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12 09 2008
Marc

Can Sept. 12 be National Smack A Cracka Day. They really have had it coming.

19 09 2008
Jasmine

Jay snicka-I believe you just contradicted yourself in your so called “argument”.
Btw, you are an uneducated asshole, go shoot yourself because you are an embarrassment to humanity.

Chris- People who get offended by this are just idiots. Your blog is so accurate it’s kind of sad.
I don’t really get what’s so great about Asian girls either. Sure, some are cute, but most are flat chested, racist bigots. They say they are proud of being Asian and the next thing you know they’re putting glue on their eyelids to make their eyes look bigger or bleaching their skin, just so they can get a white guy who’s probably not even worth it.
I’m Indian, (so I guess I’m Asian too) this kind of racial preference that Asian girls have just makes me so angry. But you know, they’re missing out, black guys are hawt. Anyways, great post and take care!

23 09 2008
manushkin

I haven’t seen any Asian girls holding it down for us in response to this semi-truthful, but sadly impotent entry. I’m a halfie, and wanna say this: Black men usually don’t like Asians not cause of many of the aforementioned qualities, but because they (like many Blacks I’ve seen) only are attracted to their own kind. I can’t tell you how many cool Blacks I’ve been attracted to, knowing that they would only want an Afrocentric Erykah Badu prototype. So there! Y’all are narcissistic. I find queer Black GIRLS to be more open minded then the men. Secondly, we have lips and a love for r&b. You should pursue some of the Pinay girls that are into hip-hop, AZN types, ya know?

I think Black men, just like Whites, tend to exotify us a lot! It seems much of the appeal is that we’re petite and your love for anime… We’re no more racist than Blacks, in fact I think Blacks display much greater hostility towards anyone who’s not Black than anyone else many times (not including progressive minded peeps). We’re always considered just “White” to you, like there’s some excuse for y’all to be racist and haters, but everyone else is expected to say PC, non-racist shit about you. It would be fine if it were equal, but you’re no more sacred cows than anyone else. And this is coming from someone who grew up watching tons of UPN, listening to Power 106 (Where Hip Hop Lives), and not understanding until I got older that there was so much pre-emptive hostility from the Black community towards even other ethnics.

“Cold War conflicts in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia gave them even more yellow fever as refugees poured into the U.S. and made them easily accessible.”

This is bullshit! GI’s (including Black ones) fetishized Asian women (from lack of understanding them) in Asia, through rape or prostitution. It wasn’t from some random migration of war torn refugees. GOD DAMN it-why are you exempt from knowing our history, but expect us to learn and respect yours? I’m all for that, but I expect reciprocation! You have to be willing to look hard at yourself and criticize Black hypocrisy as well as Asian hypocrisy.

And if you think Black girls won’t give you this “shit” you say we do, go get a Black gf and stop whining. But you probably wouldn’t, cause there would be some racialized bitching about what Black women do or look like that dissatisfies you, because you had some problem of your own with a certain girl, not that person’s race.

I’m not saying we don’t have our own racist bullshit, but don’t be blind sighted by glorifying your own people, when you CHOOSE to date Asians. I won’t feel sorry for you. I’m all for future Blasians, btw.

Read my disgruntled halfie blog at: http://manushkin.wordpress.com/

28 09 2008
jorgeimi

no one is holding it down becuase they are too busy looking at youtube videos of justin timberlake trying to act black….or window shopping for shoes… or in facebook… or shopping for that matter or chatting on msn….or doing their homework for that matter….. unless you really look for this type of blog.. you don’t find it. And if you cannot identify with the man’s voice and why he is posting why he is posting.. then…I guess

1) you are not a man
2) you are not black or a minority that lives in a predominantly white world
3) you are not a minority period
4) you are now out and about scoring with some chicks and there is no need for you to read or search this type of blog.

In short… I can understand the pain of dating asian women. They can be too complicated at times… and because there is so much attention on them socially and even the media…. I think they feel like they have to make up this canned responces to use in social situations but we all know that they just don’t like to date darker people….
In my opinion this can only change with time… i say 20 years from now things will have changed a lot. But to deny that selective dating happens that borders on prejudism is to be dim witted.

I just don’t like getting played around and my head getting messed with.. Korean girls are masters of messing around with your head. Oh man.
anyways… screw you all asian girls that mess with me head.

29 09 2008
Moon

If asian girls dont have what black men want,,
why asian girls are stil more popular than black girls??

and the writer of this post is degrading himself and his black fellows by saying that they date girls for lips, booty, bust etc..No wonder you are called animals.

29 09 2008
nelowafer

Moon, be quiet. The most popular reason stupid white guys date Asian chicks is because they think they have tight vaginas. Be lucky that someone is actually looking at your face.

30 09 2008
"O"

I like to start by saying, I love Asian women and it has nothing to do with Jim Kelly. I’ve loved them before I left my home country, Canada. I do love the movie “Enter the Dragon” those. I have dealt with and came across many Asian girls that fit all five categories. For example: One night my friend and I went out to a bar in Georgetown, we walked pass an Asian chicks and their response was, “no black guys.” So my friend said, “no black guys hah?” The look on their faces was priceless. lol.

I’ve dated Asians from category 4 and 5. Category 4 is the best because they don’t see color they see you as the person you are inside. Category 5 is one of the worst because they do think you should be lucky their dating you.
My comment to that is,” no sweety it’s the other way around.

For the record,” I never judge a person, I let them judge themselves.”

3 10 2008
Su

I am Asian and am not attracted to black guys. I like white men. Sorry, thats just the way it is for most of us Asian girls. I am married to a white man and we have 4 beautiful children.

22 10 2008
Alex

I am asian and I have a huge cock. You little cock-black !

5 11 2008
After Thanksgiving Sales

After Thanksgiving Sales…

\'[The customers] had a tendency to stop shopping when the baskets became too full or too heavy.\’ -Sylvan Goldman…

8 11 2008
Typical White Guy and I mean White

After sitting here and reading this I felt an urge to say a few things.
Firstly, I can understand Stuff’s issues.
I have dated quite a number of women in my short life before I married. And before you ask I married an Asian woman (Chinese to be exact, but she had never been to America. And my daughters if/when I have them will be raised with my standards.)
I’m going to have to step out of my zone for a minute and say that these categories can be substituted for all races in America. I have dated women from plenty of races. Just to give you a basic run down of what I have found (I will stick with Asian, Black [I hate that term] and White.) PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE.
Asian- I have to agree with Stuff. I have dated two and they fell into categories 4 and 5. Not the one I married.
Black- I found them to be egotistical and superficial.
White- I have also found them to be egotistical, superficial, and to make it worse most of them are Gold-diggers.
I guess I lucked out when I married a woman that was Chinese. I blame it on American Television that causes women to be who they are. I’m not saying all just most.
So take heart, not all Asian women are only interested in Whites or Asians.

19 11 2008
51 year old sorry white ass (not a) bitch

Found your site today while doing a google search on black names…your post on that was hilarious. But I have to say that when I read THIS post, I laughed out loud. I loved the tagline Figure 3: God hates you.

You are incredibly clever and fun to read. I have sent your blog link to my college-student age kids. Loved the angry black man/black woman entries, too. I laughed out loud at the one woman whose hated thing was nail techs who talk while they are doing your nails and she ends it with, “Shut up, Mei Ling!”

19 11 2008
51 year old sorry white ass (not a) bitch

OK now that I’ve read a bunch more of the posts, I want to ask about black men who date white women–no matter HOW ugly, skanky, or fat they are! What’s up with THAT? Because she’s WHITE? And you know she talk like she black and she a name her kids dekwan and shalindiqua! I don’t get it. AT ALL. But I guess there are just different kinds of people all around the world, regardless of ethnic or racial origin. My marriage was to someone from a middle eastern culture. Depending on which of my children you are talking to, (they all look different), they will have different experiences of how people treat them. The more “ethnic” they more shit they’ve been given, OR the more they assume any shit they are given is entirely based on their ethnicity! I can’t say it’s not, knowing how stupid so many of us human beings are.

As for blacks smelling like cocoa butter, yeah, that’s true, but sometimes there is the acrid smell of perspiration that is a lot more like Campbell’s chicken noodle soup, or the smell of heavy hair grease…not pleasant. As for all of us white people smelling like dog? Hmmm…haven’t heard that one before and I personally never have been accused of smelling like anything but heaven–regardless of the race of the man smelling me!

If I were a bitch I would now say, “oh, snap!”

I guess that means there is a bit of the bitch here…or at least a smart ass even if it is white and sagging more than ever! (HEY! You try having a Western European background with no damn melanin and see what YOUR skin looks like at age 51!)

11 12 2008
Random

How come black people can say these kinds of shit? The fact is you people might work for an Asian person (whether man or woman) on day, so fuck off.

17 12 2008
Chrystal

I am half Korean & half white bread…
There is only one thing I say to dudes who have yellow fever.

BACK AWAY!

29 12 2008
ACE

Hey, I just found your site, it’s been really fun to read.

On the white superiority thing, hmmm I guess going by the kill count, they are above Asian right now.

Now did you know there was a period in history where europeans respected and admired asian cultures? It’s the periods of time following a massive ass kicking by rapin’ pillagin’ asian nomads.

Attila the Hun- sacked Rome.
He occupied what is now Germany, and used them as footsoldiers in his army. The Germans respect him and honor him in long epic stories like the Nibelung, where an asian guy marries the white princess, a story written like 1000 years ago by aryans.

The Mongols- took over Russia, killed crusaders and muslims alike, killed a whole lotta shining white knights. They tought they were fighting angels and devils, and the world was ending. The Mongols thought the europeans were hilariously easy to fight and beat.
Geoffery Chaucer, the father of english literature, wrote a looong poem about how awesome Genghis Khan was and why he’s the best king ever.
People like Marco Polo got curious, went east, and came back sayin’ “goddamn those guys are awesome”
Then coincidentally the Renaissance happened.

The first catholic missions to China, instead of converting the heathen masses the missionaries wound up bringing back Chinese philosophy to Europe.
Then coincidentally a bunch of new philosophy was invented in europe.

It’s only around the Age of Enlightenment, sailing around with guns and nice boats, did this turn. Voltaire then wrote “hey, the mongols are a bunch of dirty niggers- The Play”

China at this point, is still the world’s biggest economy. Europeans love all their goods though, tea, porcelain, etc, except the Chinese don’t really care about european stuff. So in the interest of Free Trade, they turn to drugs. When the Chinese wage a War Against Drugs, they are beaten down by guns and cannons. The Chinese go crazy, they blame the loss on their own culture, civil war, imperial japan, etc. etc. lots of shit happens.

There begins the white superiority your friend was talking about.

Historic Asians are extinct. We live on the Planet of the Apes.

2 01 2009
cdot

wow it looks like the dude has been in a series of shiteous relationships with women of ALL races and in particular, asian woman. you are looking for a vehicle in which to vent and blame your failed relationships and engagements on. i don’t blame you because we all need to do this some time or another in our romantic lives (luckily you get to do this on an on-line blog). as entertaining as this article may be, you used the very easy yet dangerous race card as the reason for your crappy failed relationships but maybe…you just need to be more picky and have better taste in the woman you choose to date? if you were to label me, i guess you could call me an asian-canadian and perhaps, the race card and interracial dating in particular is not as big of an issue in canada as it is in the united states because i don’t identify with the asian chicks you have categorized and defined in this article. all i know is, the next time i travel to the states and decide to go to a bar; because of your article, men will look at me and reduce to nothing but a stuck up-ego-inflated-white-ass hunting-boobless asian bitch-little do they know that perhaps i’m just not enjoying the music or perhaps i’m just shy, maybe i just saw an ex-boyfriend and that’s why i don’t look interested? thanks for setting me back a few hundred years with your article.

13 01 2009
ViolentAJ

Yeah. I used to live in Japan and this hurt me deeply. I must say that j-girls are easy unless you are Black. The horrible thing is that non-Black foreigners have a sexual field day, but get mad and spread rumors when a Black guy gets one girl (a difficult feat). Their hypocrisy sickens me.

I find Japanese women to be very beautiful though for reasons of my own. I’m sorry if that offends any Black People, but that’s just how I am as an individual. I admit that asians generally hate Blacks though, and there isn’t any changing that anytime soon (sadly for me and the handful of brothers that are legitimately attracted to asian women).

I advise Blacks to avoid asians really, and it’d probably be best to avoid all non-Black races.

20 01 2009
Somuchclass

Your thinking to much…inless your a psychologist or someone who’s profession is to affect public opinion….who cares. You seem good with women, so keep giving them great experiences and keep fucking them regardless of what their thinking. God will take care of the rest. If you can, don’t let the dumb ones steal your seed.

2 02 2009
mellowyellow

I’m sorry to hear about your experiences in Japan… What is it about asian people? White acceptance is so damn paramount to them that you can define a lot of them exclusively in those terms… which is why these 5 categories of asian chicks seem quite fair. It really is sad and it makes me ashamed to be asian because as much as they try to break stereotypes that they act all the same, they all end up doing the same thing… like robots. Look, not all asian people have these slave-minds so please don’t pass on us all. And some of us can even have an honest conversation about race…

7 02 2009
Hayley

Wow, this is serious stereotyping, and pure arrogance.

I’m asian, and I’ve found many black men attractive. And, many black men have approached me. Not all asians look like same, like not all white or black people look the same. All of the asian men you’ve probably seen are the short ones with the stupid suits.

There are VERY attractive asians, that look nothing like the ones you have shown. Just watch some popular asian movies, or look through Japanese boy magazines.

7 02 2009
Hayley

Oh, and we DO NOT worship white people. Hell no we’re not you’re slaves, nor do we act like your slaves.

13 02 2009
Snakefeather

Hey All,

Just enjoying my unemployment and happened to stumble on this blog during an all-nighter internet surf session. I guess being unemployed wasn’t enough for me and now I’m spending an ungodly amount of time reading random blogs to establish a true loser status. But I digress.
Other than the statistics pulled out of thin air, I have to agree with the blogger on category 2 and 5 AA women. We definitely need to be assholes to these self-loathing and culturally inept sell-outs.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with dating/marrying outside your ethnicity, in fact I think it’s a beautiful thing. However when a woman of color makes a conscious choice to exclude men within their ethnic group and substitute them for white men; that to me is some sad sad shit.
I hate to sound corny but I’ve got to blame the media for this situation (and when I say “media” I’m leaving out an adjective). We seem determined (black, asian, latino, etc) to view each other and ourselves through the warped Eurocentric standards of beauty.
Being that most of y’all are educated in here; I don’t have explain how the “media” (again missing adjective) has fucked with not only our perceptions of each other but also ourselves.
Asian people, and when I say that I mean Asian people from Asia; don’t know anything about Black people. Not a damn thing. The only thing they know about Black people is what the “media”(have you figured out which media yet?)portrays.
Asian-Americans however do know about Black people and Black history. Yes we do, I know its shocking. And believe it or not a lot of us have love and respect for Black Americans and Black culture. In fact some of us, even have the audacity to relate to the Black experience; in that we too know what it’s like to be adversely affected by white people. The Cold War was fuckin’ hot in Asia.
Let’s take a look at this phenomenon where women of color are “upgraded” if they have a lil’ mix in them.

Let’s pretend we’re in the “media” and that we’re gonna make a movie. The movie will be a drama/romance/comedy involving various minorities. Although the cast will be primarily people of color, we definitely need to hire white writers and a white director. Because it’s just too hard to find black or asian writers and directors. We’ll begrudgingly acknowledge that women of color are generally attractive. But you know what? We don’t like them to have too much color. Too much color is offensive. Let’s tone ’em down a bit because we need universal appeal.

Oh we’re not being racist in anyway, just making sure we get the box office we need so we can keep making these movies for you guys.

Here’s the pitch; two well-to-do girlfriends one black and one asian (so edgy) get their fairy-tale worlds turned upside down when they visit their sassy and embarrassingly over-ethnic cousins in the city.

Now who are going to cast as the well-to-do, upwardly mobile, well-spoken and adorable minority women of the future?

Beyonce and that chick from Smallville. Perfect.

Now who are going to cast as the down-trodden, bitter baggage, minority women of the past?

You got it – We’re gonna get the ”blackest” and I mean really really “black” (wink wink) actress we can find. Also we’ll need to hire an ebonics coach so that the black actress will look and sound real and authentic.

Let’s get Chinese girl to the play the other role; nah you know what Chinese is a bit too light, not Asian enough. Let’s get a Malaysian or Filipina. We’ll need to hire an Asian-Accent/Martial Arts coach too, remember we’re going for authenticity.

I think you can feel where I’m going with this. I love mixed women, I always have. I just don’t like the way they’re played against us in movies and advertisements.

In the movies an Asian-American cannot, absolutely cannot speak perfect English. That would be too jarring and off-putting for the general public. Unless the actor is half white, then they can speak normal English, albeit in very short declarative and subservient sentences.

When a prominent black or asian female celebrity has a lil’ bit of something else that’s visible, they’re held up as the standard of beauty for that group. Which is obviously fucked up in many ways.

Woops, sorry I went off on a rant.

Also I have some questions for Grimm;

Are there any other ethnic models that pose for Abercrombie?

And if so are they mixed too?

Are there any ”full-blooded” (terrible term I know) ethnic models that pose for them?

26 02 2009
ASIAN GIRL 09

OHell No. u tellin me we asian girls dont got any of that? lol u havent met me yet and my girls. dont b mad cuz u got dumped by flat chested asian girls. that was when? 1977? hahaha black girls got “booty” but they is sloppy as hell. hahah. if they got tities, they must be saggin to the floor. u got no taste. Get ur ass some treatment. Get out of china town.

2 03 2009
Somuchclass

Remember, keep it simple. Stay good with women, don’t let them steal your seed and let your testosterone and way with words break down w/e limited thoughts women have in their head. Blogging about it to increase “awareness” just reenforces your arguement and makes you look insecure.

2 03 2009
Kneegrow

Nigger you are so full of shit. Pussy is pussy is pussy. U no doubt cup your hand to make it look like a pussy you’ve seen in a magazine and fuck that. Or you’re cupping it to make look like your brothers ass sphincter. You are so busy looking at others calling them racists but you just wanna fuck outside your own race. Cause black women would cream you. You just wanna be massa whey you all growed up. Jack ass.

25 03 2009
el boogie

man idk where u guys stay but in cali (specifically the bay area) asian females are all over black dudes. Now since I’m black and ive dated alot of asian females I do believe that there are certain types of black dudes asian chicks go for. now these arent requirements but more like guideline from my perspective to date an asian chick it really helps to: 1. find one that is kinda ” urban” not ghetto but “Americanized”
2. not be too hood, unless she is (that scares most of them)
3. be kind of a pretty boy model type (you dont even have to be that good looking)
4. be funny (humor is the universal leg opener)
5. have money and if you dont do not let her know your broke untill she’s in love
6. and finally when the time comes you MUST I repeat MUST put it down on her, make sure she knows that your the best lover by far. for a typical brotha this shouldnt be too hard (unless you a virgin lol)
Trust me if you can follow the guidelines then come to cali and get yo asian bro

25 03 2009
el boogie

I would also like to add the type of asian female is also very important for example fillipinas usually date black dudes and there attitudes are just fine also (atleast to me) they are the prettiest and have the most “black” qualities of all the asian women

29 03 2009
We Safe

I don’t know if Asian women feel more safe with Black men now, but it seems since Obama was elected I have been seeing more Asian Women + Black Men couples. Anyone else notice this?

3 04 2009
aikozord

The concept of inter-racial love is as an absolute and vicious lie, if we allow ourselves to breed with these degenerate filth, our genetic heritage will be gone.

8 04 2009
sj

black and asian does not mix it is not that common in the uk as most asians have arranged marriages even the chinese . i agree they look down on black people but look up to whites .its funny as these are the ones who have spread the most hate around the world with slavery and taking over other peoples countries and also the holocaust all caused by white skin people .its funny how the world works isnt it.but my opion is that having seen a half asian and half black child i would have to say that the mix dont work .to me their skin looks funny as you can see all the veins under it maybe another species as they have neither european features or african as the rest of the world does who knos but they are differrent to me.

11 04 2009
serenevalley

I came across this thread googling looking for a Korean sauce recipe for a taco. This is hilarious!

Much of the tripe written on here validates my experiences and observations. That is that black Americans are the most racist folks around. Even Africans can’t stand them. Now, I am white. My wife is Korean-American. We have known each other for 30 years, married for 26 of them, and lived in many locations including Japan.

Point blank, there are no absolutes. Ever. Except death. And of course to have death one must have birth. So, after those, anything is a crap shoot.

Having said that, lets get down to business. While living in Asia (I met my wife in S. Carolina, btw), I heard the most obscene and trash talk about Asians by…blacks. It made no difference what the situation was, it was trash talk. My wife was even crudely remarked to by a couple black dudes while in Japan…because she wasn’t receptive to their advances. She was also dissed by black women on numerous occasions here in the U.S. I’m talking major metropolitan areas here folks. Not W. Virginia.

Everyone one of our acquaintances, close and distant, through the years, that were a black male / Asian female couple…had rocky relationships because of verbal/physical abuse and/or infidelity. Why is this? Most of these, and I mean most, of these relationships failed (divorce). Why is this? In fact, I know of none that came anywhere close to being as stable as a Asian/Asian couple and to a lesser degree white/Asian couple.

Overwhelmingly the kids were messed up when compared to Asian/Asian and white/Asian couples. Why is this?

Now, have things changed? Nope. My in-laws in LA own a beauty supply store in a predominantly black locale (but hey, Asian and Hispanics are displacing the blacks…much to the black’s “undelight”). They have been the unwilling recipients of slurs, theft, and even lowly vandalism for the entire time they’ve owned the store. Why is this? Is it their fault they are trying to make a living? Shouldn’t be. Do they treat their customers with malice? Not according to them. They’ve bent my ear plenty on this, believe me. A per them, they certainly aren’t alone in this regard.

The Asian girls who coupled with blacks absolutely had lower self-esteem. It was plainly obvious from their mannerisms and attitudes. Attitudes are a funny thing…they are mostly used to “cover-up” for emotional esteem issues. Blackwashed girls, whether white, Asian, or anything else..except black…predominantly suffer from low self-esteem. Many are fat which may play into this.

Now, where we live now does not have many blacks…but there are some. I know of no Asian female-black male couples which have flourished. All have failed. Why is this?

I will close with the words spoken by Halle Berry. “I tried black men, I really did”. She is now in a stable and happy relationship with a white guy…and just had his baby. Go figure.

Bottomline….You are so typically stereotyping on white people, Asian people, and even Hispanic people. Your comments on Asians are ignorant, narrow, and flat wrong. You lump and categorize to a level which you should be ashamed of. You really need to take a look in the mirror.

23 04 2009
TRUTH

I”ts funny how a lot of black people complain about racism and come to a site like this one and see even more racism than I ever have with white people. Just the fact that this site exists is racist. A site like this catering to white people would be deemed racist without a second thought.

2 05 2009
Gianpablo

I thought your article was right on target. I am of Japanese descent from Argentina and am married to a black girl from Brasil. Personally, I am attracted to dark skin women for their beauty and for their warm, genuine personalities.
I don’t care for Asian women here in the U.S. because a lot of them are rotten from the inside out. They have too many issues with identity and self hate and seem to be happier with abusive white men. Go figure…

2 05 2009
Gianpablo

I thought your article was right on target. I am of Japanese descent from Argentina and am married to a black girl from Brasil. Personally, I am attracted to dark skin women for their beauty and for their warm, genuine personalities.
I have learned to really dislike Asian women because a lot of them are rotten from the inside out. They have too many issues with identity and self hate and seem to be happier with abusive white men. Go figure…

25 05 2009
obzervi

This is so true! I remember walking by a black guy and asian girl on campus and I overheard some of their conversation, the asian girl was smiling but telling the black guy her parents don’t want her dating black guys.

1 06 2009
John Doe Gorilla

Too much mess to read. You think Asians bitches or any other women really want black men? You think they fantasize about marrying a gorilla?

Most women fantasize about the wedding, the dress, etc, etc… You think women fantasize about seeing a gorilla in a tux next to them on their wedding day? I think not.

Fucking is another matter. Some women love to be whores and ‘naughty’… some get tattoos to show how naughty they are, other ride black cock. But you can bet your bottom dollar that probably 99% of women fantasize about marrying a white man before they fantasize about marrying some smelly ape.

It’s just the facts. Asian women can be broken down into a wide variety of spices and flavors (your ignorant monkey faced Philippinas to your more discerning Japanese women who know about the savagery of blacks)… but in the end they all want the white man. You can argue this till the end of time, but that’s how it is.

One thing black people really need to work on is their smell, their odor, or their fumes… it’s just hideous. But alas, that is simply nature. Oh well.

1 06 2009
John Doe Gorilla

Just a quick note about that Asian dude who can’t score some Asian pussy…

Bro, get this through your head. Asian guys are not really interesting, they’re ugly, and they got the dicks of a #2 pencil.

This is why a lot of Asian girls will prefer a white dude over an Asian dude… even though Asian girls can be really into their own shit and only want to date their own kind.

6 06 2009
tokenasiangirl

Wow, I feel the hate for the Asian female really flowing in here. 🙂

So if you black people hate Asians so much, just don’t talk to ’em. Period. 🙂

Don’t date them, either, since clearly we’re inferior to all that black women have to offer.

And yeah. Black chicks need to cool the fuck down when they react to seeing a black man with an Asian woman. I get it — you’ll never show your indignation and rage when he’s with the white woman since, well, she’s right. But an Asian woman? Nuh-uh; ain’t no non-white gonna take my black man! Right?

Right.

🙂

6 06 2009
tokenasiangirl

Oh PS, for some crazy reason I found this site through Googling ‘Asian American women professionals.” In case anyone was wondering wtf I was doing here. 🙂

6 06 2009
tokenasiangirl

Oh, shit, typo in the first post — sentence should read: “You’ll never show your indignation and rage […] because she’s WHITE.”

6 06 2009
Fletcher Russell

you want to know what i think not to be well if i come off this way i don’t care black guy’s should leave asian women alone let’s face it we got to be with our selve’s and we as choosen people because im an israelite and the african’s that where down there where israelite during the time round about 70Ad when rome took over israel right after the death of Christ who was also black by empiror tatus and the black’s fled to africa and where sold as slave’s to the white man read deut 28[48]-[57]-[68] also joel3[2]-[3] and isa66[16] and deut23[5]-[6] that will tell you and if you want to marry a woman that is lighter then you go right ahead there are twelve tribe’s of Israel the west indian and hispanic and native american are our brother’s so drop the asian’s and the white’s and the arab’s we are a great people of the Most High Yahawha ba ha sam Yahawashi whom you call God and Jesus Christ Yahawha is God’s real name Yahawashi is Jesus real name in the Hebrew also read Rev2[9] and Rev3[9] the socalled white man in Israel is not a jew the black man is a jew the black american’s are from Judah and the west indian’s are from Benjamin the haitian’s are FRom the Levi and the dominican’s are from semion in fact all hispanic and native american’s are Israelite’s like us the black american’s so as i said before drop the asian and white girl’s all it’s going to do is get you killed shalom

12 06 2009
cheekoandtheman

If you aint got a fucking college degree or loads of money dont even bother. Asian girls are the most materialistic of all. Yet once in a while Ive met some that have restored my faith in humanity, but most of time I get reminded how much the game of sex so often is nothin but prostitution.

7 07 2009
aikozord

Japanese girls are the hottest on Earth

27 08 2009
Death Poet

Yeah, this is what I think about when I think about black people. Wit, High income, college degree, culture, and appreciation for the classical arts. And, that’s exactly what we need, more blacks with “street cred.” Asian girls don’t want to date blacks for one of two reasons. They grew up in an Asian country, thus few blacks, and when they come over they see US blacks as they are without the “white guilt.” Or they grew up in the US and because they are Asian don’t suffer from the “white guilt” and see blacks for how they act and treat other people. The point is, at least 90% of black people act like retarded hand-out monkeys. There are good black people that can be looked upon as good people and probably would be fine for any race of girl to date. However, when the majority of a race act like monkeys, then stereotyping and prejudice are bound to happen. PS, I can already see the majority of uneducated niggers getting their race cards ready.

14 09 2009
Cynical Eyes

Everyone lives within their own subjective interpretations. There are brown people here (I dont see the resemblance between my skin colour and tar? keep the black terminology) who are so pathetically self absorbed and unwilling to let go of their weak defense mechanism of screaming racist.There are those brown people here who are able to see the bigger picture and to you guys you have my respect. Oh and to the Asians (not all, just the ones apologising and attemptin to smoove things?) guys what you are ding is pathtic and weak! You will not gain any brownie points in the closed minded eyes of some of these people, they need to cling to their excuses. It makes them right, and it keeps them blind. Just do your thing. If you know you aren’t like “those” particular Asians then don’t let it bother you and its rather sad to witness you guys trying to rigt someone elses wrong. Finally; Death Poet? “Getting their race cards ready” I commend your command of misirection, manipulation and programming. You ARE a racist, regardless of whatever “here we go again” spin you put on it. And while you try to back your claims with “evidence and “examples” the fact is, you. Are weak! All the charecteristic traits of a weak character unable to have the courage to take the chance to overide the natural response what your expeiences have programmed into you. Ugh!! While I commend your cognotive abilities and your adeptness within granted talents – any tricks you use are ineffectve against people who think and see outside the box……..Fool.
Author……….you have a lot of people who ami and respect you, it’s clear why.

14 09 2009
Cynical Eyes

P.s. Flawed keyboard, not in need of grammar lesson.

26 09 2009
Sir Poop A Lot

Wow, this is one of the most racist blogs I have ever seen, its up there with stormfront.org. Get over yourself.

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