Children

24 03 2008

Thankfully, I have yet to actually see a scenario that standup comedians often describe: a child (usually a white one) telling his or her parents to go fuck themselves. What I’m seeing an alarming increase in, however, are children telling their parents what they will or will not do. For this, and many other reasons, children need to fucking die.

As time marches on, you can see the crumbling of American personal character on a macro scale pretty much everyday. Nobody believes there should be real consequences for breaking the rules (ask Florida and Michigan). Married couples are getting divorced at the first sign of trouble. Moral relativism is steeply on the rise. NIMBY applies to virtually everyone. People think that stupid ass ‘going green’ campaigns that really don’t inconvenience them in any way is going to head off global warming. MTV is allowed to exist.

All of this can be attributed to the fact that we don’t give our children enough discipline. By ‘discipline’, I don’t mean ‘beatings’ – I mean ‘persistent psychological trauma.’

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Figure 1: Character Building

I don’t think you necessarily need to beat your kids to get them in line or to help them build character. You’ll see many proponents of ‘old-school’ parenting bragging about the frequency and severity of the beatings they received as a child, and how it shaped them into a functioning adult. While I’m not against laying the corporal smackdown on a small child, I do believe that its effectiveness is limited. Children eventually get used to beatings. Their pain tolerances increase. They learn to meditate the pain away like Shaolin Monks. Eventually, the beatings go from being a source of genuine fear to merely being a nuisance.

But you can use a beating to kickstart a lifelong program of emotional terror. Here’s an example from my life:

In all the years of my childhood, I was officially beaten* only one time. It happened when I was five or six years old as a result of me mouthing off to my mother in front of her friends. My ass was beaten until the slur ‘redskin’ could applied to me literally. I think I remember my mother laughing the whole time. The memory of my one and only beating is so seared into my memory that I can recall the pattern on the bed spread (yellow background with orange stenciled butterflies), the time of day (near high noon), and the fact that the curtains in the room were drawn shut.

It wasn’t until years later that I understood the reason my mother whooped my ass so severely: it was to make me fear my father for the rest of my life. My mother was a relatively small woman during my youth at 5′ 8″ and weighing about 115 lbs, with small wrists, thin fingers, thin neck, etc. My father, on the other hand, was a monster to me. As a boy I wasn’t really sure what God’s plan was for my dad, but with him towering at 6′ 2″ and weighing well over 200lbs, I was pretty sure it involved smashing things. So if my mother could kick my ass, then I could only imagine what would happen if my father was turned loose on me:

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Figure 2: Actually, I could imagine exactly what would happen

From that point on, my parents kept me in line with a two-part disciplinary strategy. One part was a combination of verbal threats and groundings for minor offenses**. I never committed any major offenses** because of the second part of the strategy – an ever-increasing fear of my father. Over the years, my father would send me subtle hints about his power. He made me aware that there were guns in the house and he knew how to use them. He convinced me that he could look at my tongue to determine if I’d been playing with matches. He would often relate his hunting stories to me, so I knew he was capable of killing things bigger than people. He would ‘playfully’ pluck me in the back of the head (this hurt like fucking hell) with one finger…making me implicitly afraid of the pain he could inflict with an entire arm.

So you see, you don’t actually need to beat your children to keep them in line – you just have to constantly scare the living shit out of them. This is a good thing for two reasons: 1.) it removes the threat of children calling child services (kids can’t substantiate claims of terror if they can’t prove you’re beating them), and 2.) scaring children is fun.

Terror is the best medicine for raising children, which leads me to believe that Osama Bin Laden is (if he has kids) the greatest dad since Abraham:

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Figure 3: Parenting techniques, as recommended by God Himself

*a beating is only ‘official’ if the parent interrupts what they are doing to beat you for the distinct and sole purpose of beating you. In other words, the beating is an event in and of itself with a clear beginning, middle, and end. This is different than, say, the casual swat a parent will give to calm a child that’s acting like an asshole in a grocery store.

**the difference between a major offense and a minoroffense involved whether or not what I did embarrassed my parents publicly

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110 responses

24 03 2008
brran1

Who wasn’t scared of their parents back when they were coming up? My mother made sure to inflict that fear on me early. She said “You may be towering over 6 feet, but ill take a frying pan to your skull with the quickness.”

24 03 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

My mother used to carry the wooden spoon around the house in her back pocket…any time I started to cut up or act out of line, she would turn around and point at the wooden spoon. That act alone saved my butt-cheeks from many a whupping.

24 03 2008
Mr. Smith

That’s some pretty solid stuff Beta. I was from a family where my father, or poppa back in the day, wore his leather belt with his shirt tucked in. It took me and my little brother to watch our older brother take a whoopin one time to know what was really good. He always wore that belt when he was home, so we knew we were always a few belt notches away from a beat down if we were out of line.

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

I must say that I do agree with most of the points made in this post… bravo stuffblackpeoplehate… bravo. However, I think you pointed out, but did not elaborate enough on the fact that every child reacts to various stimulus different than others, and I’m sure… no I know you can agree. For instance, let us take my brother for example… let us call him… the Unkle. Throughout his childhood he consistently managed to scurry himself into every different kind of mischief known to man and was therefore punished with the following techniques: threats, beatings, woopings, forcing to fix whatever he’d done (will touch on that later), groundings, evil eyes, and everything in between that is just short of… well murder. In other words, the Unkle was/is one of the most stubborn, hard headed ass children you will ever meet. Now, I must also interject that somehow someway my parents managed to push him into being a successful physicist, who is now (at 26 years of age) working towards his PhD while developing some of the nations leading equipment. Now, I’m sure most of you are wondering: what does his PhD have anything to do with the topic at hand? Let me tell you. There came a point in time when my parents finally threw up their hands with my brother and essentially let him either sink or swim when it came to life. My brother is one who consistently believes that it’s his way or the highway (an awful genetic trait that all of the family members on my dads side of the family have) and sometimes seriously believes that the consequences of his actions should not be held against him. Well… since my parents were born yesterday and their mental capacities and abilities were obviously far inferior to his, my brother believed that he was king of the world… until he got into college. That was when reality started to sink in… and proceed to kick his ass. I must say, he’s learned from experience, but he’s still lacking in many areas. In it all though… I believe he’ll be just fine.

MEANWHILE… I do agree with the author on the sheer and utter fright that was ingrained into thy soul when the words “I’m going to tell your father what you’ve done” flowed from the lips of anyone older than thou. I must admit there came a time when my mothers reciprocating physical discipline fell to be nothing but an utter annoyance, since she too was a small woman at 5’5″ 120 (at best)… thus feeling like nothing to me since I was starting adolescence. But the “can I get the number to that truck,” single swing, enough said anvil drop from my fathers hand gives me shudders to this day. I remember vividly, one of my father’s friends (my godfather actually) mentioned to my father one day after seeing me cringe as I walked past my dad (don’t ask what I did to have that fear when crossing his path because one never knew when they had pissed him all the way off) “Man your kids are terrified of you. Damn!” My father’s ensuing response was… “Damn, right. And it will stay that way.” Though I’m pushing 30 and I could certainly out guile my father in a physical contest, I still fear the mighty blow from the original Big Black.

Meanwhile, I’m all for spankings… and I truly don’t care what the law says. MY MOTHER… the same woman who believed in striking me multiple times with a wooden spoon until it broke and then following up with two strikes from a metal spoon… DOES NOT! She is prepped and in line to spoil grandchildren upon their arrival.

In closing, I would like to throw out something that is certain to become a huge debate and probably get my rear end in hot water with possibly both the men and the women here… but I really just don’t care, because it needs to be discussed. Part of the problem that exists with the children these days is the lack of cohesiveness and collaborative discipline between their parents. Quite often (if the parents are still together) a divide exists between parents on discipline… where one parent scolds the other during a disciplinary session with their children. This then makes the child believe that they can utilize such a divide to their advantage and therefore disrespect the other parent… which could then ultimately lead to them disrespecting other adults as well. Single parent households are even worse… as this attitude continues to flow like the river Nile. Now I understand that some people believe that they can raise a child on their own without problems, and maybe they can. Most likely however… No. I’m not claiming to be the worlds expert on raising children and I’m sure most people will say… “Oh you don’t have any children, so who the fuck are you to tell me how to raise a child.” Well, if that statement was said to me in front of the child, then the problem has already begun… because now that child believes they can do anything to me that they want without consequence because they’re momma or poppa will fend for them regardless. WRONG THING TO DO.

This is where I have to revert back to the past. I grew up in the late 70s, early 80s…. which was the dawn of the child abuse laws. My parents and their family… didn’t believe it in one bit. Now when I say that I’m afraid of my father… that fear doesn’t just stop there. It extends all throughout the 12 other brothers and sisters he has… and on into his cousins etc. I believe I was only beaten by my aunts about two or three times… and it was then that I realized that they were just as powerful… if not moreso than my father. The fear started there… and was then elevated when I witnessed two of my cousins get their shit rocked by three of my aunts all at the same time. They never had to beat me again. Of course when my brother came along… something had happened to my aunt and uncles heads such that they refused to beat him. (sigh) Maybe it was the child abuse laws. Ronald Reagan? God? I don’t know.

I’m a big advocate on the term it takes a village to raise a child… and to an extent it is really true. IN my opinion, two parents are needed in a collaborative effort to bring a child up… and all of the environment MUST compliment their teachings. Otherwise the child will be ruined.

24 03 2008
www.anythingblack.wordpress.com

I’m a fuckin ruined child @ admiral furious. The worst part is I know it too 😦 I used to get beatings, its required man, you gotta beat ya kids

24 03 2008
Mr. Smith

“I’m a big advocate on the term it takes a village to raise a child… and to an extent it is really true. IN my opinion, two parents are needed in a collaborative effort to bring a child up… and all of the environment MUST compliment their teachings. Otherwise the child will be ruined.”

I got nothing to say about this other than I agree with each and every single word.

24 03 2008
Hill Rat

I’m a father who doesn’t believe in beating his kid. Getting beatings from my folks exposed them as the first hypocrites I ever met. Not hitting my kid gives me moral authority, I can always ask, “Do I ever hit you? What makes you think it’s OK to hit someone?”

I’ve found that a three minute timeout is just as traumatic to my kid as any kind of corporeal punishment I could give her.

24 03 2008
Uhura

I think you’re right. On its face, beating children is hypocritical. For example: Beating a child because he / she got into a fight at school or because he / she hit a sibling demonstrates that might makes right

What’s the answer? I don’t know…I was spanked as a child. And my husband and I spank our son; however, it’s usually the last resort.

I firmly believe that once the child is able to reason – that is- beyond a certain level of cognitive ability, spanking does more harm than good because of the hypocritical factor…

I also notice that blacks and other minorities have way too many ass whuppin’ stories.

It CAN’T be healthy.

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

I know I write way too much stuff on here and I certainly do apologize to each and every other commenter out there as well as Chris… the author. But these are real issues and creates real anger within me when I see these idiot parents not properly raising their children.

Now… again, I know that I am going to get hit from every angle on this one, particularly by the ladies because of the example… but once again these are things that need to be put out there and solutions MUST be devised to save the parents and save the children.

I know of someone who is a single mother, has been married three times, has four children (three boys and one girl) and is pretty much just a complete fuck up in terms of both parenting and being an air consuming human being. Pardon my french, but this woman makes my blood boil. She first got married at the tender age of 20 (with the convincing of her parents… who I won’t get into right now because this post would turn into a best selling 500 page novel) to a man who was only a year her senior. Welp, one day the newly anointed bride decided to take a night on the town with her girlfriends… which ended up with her cheating on her husband inside of a public bathroom. No protection was used and thus resulted in the conception of her first child. After a brief stint, her husband found out the truth and therefore filed for divorce. Out came baby number 1… fatherless. She quickly latched onto a second man (less than a year later) and within months of dating, they foolishly married without getting to know each other. The end results were: two more children (both boys), an abusive and alcohol laden 4 year marriage and divorce number two. Not a year later this girl was ready to get married again after meeting up with a high school sweet heart. Too bad this dude was heavy into drugs… but of course that didnt quite matter until baby number 4 came out and the husbands friends suddenly popped up. They were none too friendly and on came divorce number 3.

So lets recap… shall we? 4 Children from three different men; one of which is fatherless as he was conceived in a bathroom with a complete stranger. Only one of the ex husbands makes an effort to be in his children’s lives, but does not want to take on the responsibility for two children he does not father (can you really blame him to an extent?), and the mother refuses to take a full time job because of her complete and ridiculous reliance on the welfare system.

What does this have to do with children being disciplined? I’ll tell you. This mother runs her mouth about not having to spank her children… and therefore her kids are some of the baddest, most disrespectful little humans on the face of this earth. The oldest (14) and second oldest 11and 1/2 are not completely potty trained and she has done nothing to mitigate the problem. Meanwhile all four children back talk even the grandparents… who in turn want badly to incorporate punishment that sullied their own childhoods, but cowardly do not in fear that their daughter would abandoned them and never bring the children around again.

I on the other hand… do not give a shxx what the mother says. One day, I was at the house with the grandmother, my cousin, and the third child. The child was absolutely out of control… obviously under the influence of too much caffeine… and was jumping up and down on the sofa, swinging the sofa pillows wildly all while yelling a rap song that he’d recently heard on Viacom Run BET. The grandmother repeatedly told the child to sit his butt down, but of course the child didn’t listen and even said something along the lines of… ‘I’m lil wayne… I’m walkin it out!’

Eventually, one of the pillows flew out of the childs hand and smacked the grandmother right in her face while she was doing the dishes, her glasses clattering to the floor. The child decided to land face down on the sofa in an attempt to hide from any consequences he knew was coming… but nothing prepared him for what came next.

I, the Admiral, reached down and grabbed his left wrist with my right hand… and held the little 6 year old up above the sofa, his little feet dangling helplessly, his eyes wide with utter shock. In a commanding voice, I forced him to apologize to his grandmother in the tone and method I preferred… with him having to repeat it three times until he faced his grandmother and said it right. Before the third time… he gave me the look of ‘N*gga who do you think you’re holding up right now.’ But the winding open left hand and the look of ‘The hell do you think you’re going to do’ coming from me made him think otherwise. From that day forward, the child never disrespected me and ALWAYS wanted me to play with him from that day forward. The mother was informed of the situation, but never brought up an issue with what I had executed.

Now, despite the fact that I’m pleased with the child straightening up around me, I wish that such discipline was more consistent in his life and the lives of his siblings. Not long after the incident described in the previous paragraph happened, a family argument erupted regarding some unnecessary security controls that one of uncles had placed onto the grandparents network. My gf, myself, and the grand parents were all arguing with the 22 year old uncle… regretfully directly in front of the children. (Their mother’s bad for not removing the children rightfully… but equally our bad for not being mindful). Anyhow, eventually… the issue got heated and I happened to over hear the oldest child begin disrespecting his uncle. NOW… I don’t give a crap about how much I dislike my gf brother… NO CHILD will EVER disrespect an elder just because they’ve heard another elder says something bad about them. Again, an arm was grabbed, the finger was pointing and directly in front of the grandfather I scolded the child for saying such negative words. To my surprise the grandfather backed me up. I never heard the child speak badly of the man again. What did the mother do? Nothing.

Later on… the mother got into an argument with the single ex husband that was actually active in his children’s lives… and therefore prohibited him (with a symphony of expletives and colorful metaphors) told him he was no longer welcome to see his own children. After that, she gathered her girls to her parents house and began talking very badly about the man and that she was a strong black woman capable of raising her children on her own.

I have a mouth that continuously gets me in trouble… and that day certainly was no exception. I pointed out everything that was wrong with her parenting style and what was wrong with her kids… and made my point exceptionally clear that was actually an unfit mother to care for 4 children. (yes the kids were out of the house… frolicking with their grandparents). THis of course prompted the other women to take the mothers side… and I was completely appalled at the attitude until my gf pointed out that the three chicken heads all were single mothers with jammed up children as well. (sigh) Needless to say, my gf and I were chased out of the house by nashing teeth and claws (long fingernails)

Back to the lack of potty training. Long story short… the two oldest boys had wet the bed that their grand parents had in their room. The grandparents were livid. The grandparents finally exploded at the mother… who in turn said and I quote “Its not my fault that they can’t control their bladders at night! I’m a single mother trying to raise these kids on my own! I have no help.”

If I could rewind the previous two paragraphs I would.

First of all, it is her fault that her children are wetting the bed. Its her fault that she failed to properly potty train them at night (getting them up in the middle of the night while they were still young and having them pee in the toilet). Its her fault that she gives them glasses of kool aid within 15 minutes of their bedtime (which in fact exponentially raises the probability of soiled sheets and mattress). She’s the mother… its her job. Of course that job would be easier if she had a husband around… but her choices have been rather shabby when it comes to that topic. I needn’t reiterate.

These bad parents will rear bad children who will therefore become bad parents in the future. The problem is… we as a community need to stop bashing each other and come together to help our own children. I know it sounds like something you hear on the news when a child gets shot… but its compeltely true. And whats more is… we as a people need to help these parents raise their children properly…. while these bad parents need to HEED to such help and guide their kids in the right direction as EARLY as possible.

Unfortunately… children who have been exposed to years of improper training may not be saveable. But then again I don’t have ALL the answers and I hope I’m wrong there.

Theres more that I wanted to say here… but I’m losing my thought processes here and multitasking is a bitch.

24 03 2008
imaG

lol @ admiral furious, i thought you were chris until you apologized to him – http://www.anythingblack.wordpress.com

24 03 2008
Uhura

Well, this website has some answers: http://www.medicinenet.com/child_abuse/page3.htm

My recommendation is: If you have children, you need to be aware of a few things….Most notably-how to be a fucking adult your damned self. That includes restraining yourself from lashing out at a child in anger – which seems to be the case with many of these lemmie tell you ’bout this ass whuppin’ I got tales that Blacks and other minorities like to tell.

And-sad but true: Many parents (well meaning and not so well meaning) have been brought up on charges of child abuse for a few interesting reasons.

Think it’s OK to beat your child in the parking lot of the department store after they misbehaved in the store? Think again…

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/28/video.child.beating/index.html

I’ll bet if some of the folks here visit this link, it will take them back to their own childhoods…Well, guess what-today, such behavior is not considered to be OK: http://www.nospank.net/revallen.htm

24 03 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“On its face, beating children is hypocritical. For example: Beating a child because he / she got into a fight at school or because he / she hit a sibling demonstrates that might makes right…”

Who says you can’t (or even shouldn’t) be hypocritical with your kids? Children need to be taught that they will be expected to be fair with other people even when other people aren’t necessarily fair with them. In short, they need to learn that life’s a bitch…and they need to have some hint of this before they hit high school and shoot everybody because they think life should be fair all the time, but it isn’t*.

Why do we think that a three minute timeout is real punishment? A friggin timeout to a child is exactly what it is to an athlete – a resting period where the taker of the timeout gets to plan their next series of shenanigans, and evaluate the events that led to the timeout in the first place. All a timeout does is encourage a child to become sneakier.

If you wanna avoid the beatings and the terror, fine. But get outta here with the timeout bullshit. Ground your child for weeks at a time, and I mean fucking GROUND EM:

Take the TV and the xBox outta that little fucker’s room, and fuckin’ sell em. Smash his cellphone and iPod before his very eyes. Restrict his network access to Wikipedia ONLY so he can do his homework, and check the computer’s security logs EVERYDAY to make sure that little chicken shit isn’t reinstalling the chat programs you deleted from the computer. Are the security logs inexplicably empty? The kid’s hiding something! Throw the computer off a bridge! A disconnected child is a miserable child. Apply the misery LIBERALLY.

MAKE THAT FUCKER PAY AND LEARN WHAT CONSEQUENCES REALLY ARE.

Or, just beat your kids. Then when you’re done beating them, beat someone else’s kids.

*They’ll also do it because they’re fucking nuts

24 03 2008
Uhura

Think beating your kid in the department store parking lot after a bout of bad behavior in the department store is OK? Think again: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/09/28/video.child.beating/index.html

I am willing to wager that if some of the folks here visit this link, it will take them back to their own childhood….Today-such behavior is not considered to be OK: http://www.nospank.net/revallen.htm

Think that beating your child for bad grades is OK?…It may well be…but you can still be arrested for it: http://www.local10.com/news/14272481/detail.html

24 03 2008
Uhura

Admiral, perhaps you have difficulty focusing because you were beaten as a child.

24 03 2008
Uhura

Teaching kids about hypocrisy by being hypocritical

I’ll pass on that particular parenting technique-thanks!

24 03 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

This ‘fair treatment’ B.S. is why kids run around calling adults by their first names.

@Uhura – You beat your kids, but only when it’s not a result of them beating someone else. To this effect, I can only assume you’ve told your children that violence is wrong…and yet you beat them.

I think you’ve officially NOT passed on that particular parenting technique, and I applaud you for it 🙂

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Perhaps… Uhura.. perhaps. Or perhaps its because I have four computer screens in front of me with data flashing before my eyes that I have to process real time, all while writing these blogs.

Spankings were mainstay in society for centuries and only recently have they found their way onto the endangered species list… because of emotionally scarred children who didn’t want to get spanked have made their way into politics. It amazes me that since the 1970s, people’s attitudes on spanking has made an about face… while every generation before was an avid believer… and in turn allowed other people to beat their children… before they themselves got a hold of them. Even in the catholic church… nuns utilized rulers and paddles to enact discipline in the children who defied those in authority… all in the name of God. These people then grew up to be great leaders and pushed many countries into directions that made them soar into the greatness of success. Just this weekend, I saw a black and white movie where a child attempted to run away from his foster mother… who in turn caught him and applied at least six hand to the ass spankings before the camera faded to black.

Where are we now?

Spankings are a method of enforcement… and consequence. When a child does something wrong… pain might be an enforcement to keep the child from doing it again. Some children react to it… others ignore it (ie The Unkle).

Let me throw this out there. You tell your child… don’t touch the stove… you’ll get burned. You have to repeat that over and over and finally spank the child and they stop trying to touch the stove. Consequences of not listening.

Meanwhile… lest look at it a different way. Child tries to touch the stove multiple times and results in a sit in the corner with a dunce cap. Child is unaffected by the method of humiliation and proceeds to touch the stove. Child burns themselves… and is therefore crying due to PAIN… more pain than they would if they were spanked. You take child to hospital. Hospital reports burn to protective services. Protective services deems you an unfit parent and takes your child.

I think spanking is more affective. But thats my opinion. And Uhura, please tone down the cursing. If you curse like this to us, I wonder what kind of mouth your child has.

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Additionally, I’d like to point out that the idiot parents that are stupid enough to spank their children in public are stupid enough to get caught on tape. THis is something my mother would also profess. When we were younger… and acting up in a store… my mother would give us the look… the look of, ‘this is your last warning before you get tore up at home.’ My brother was a repeat offender at ignoring such a look.

On our way home, We would then forget all about our misbehavior and think everything is hunky dory. Little did we know that the woman operating the motor vehicle in the front seat was temporarily being invaded by the devil… thus planning various methods of pain application to our behinds and legs. The shock and surprise of her suddenly coming at us with her hand, belt, shoe, hanger, etc was horrifying then… but overly FUNNY now.

I digress… only recently have children become out of control… backtalking other adults, and disrespecting those who would NEVER have been disrespected in years previous. So what changed? Quite a bit. Times have changed most certainly. But so have these parents. They’re weak hearted and soft. And they allow children to participate in and therefore believe that they are allowed to speak as/in adult conversations.

24 03 2008
CatholicKid

Guilt.
Guilt.
Guilt.

I have never feared my parents, but they were always really good at keeping me in line solely using their disappointment with me. I would always asked to be yelled at, but no – they were upset and disappointed.

Guilt. Catholicism helps. “You like that? It must not be good. Go pray.” My parents used God to keep me in line. I feared hell fire. Simple as that.

24 03 2008
Uhura

Pardon me greenstuff, but I stated that we spank our son as a last resort. I never mentioned any specifics.

My other comments were for discussion / topic exploration purposes only.

I refuse to share the details of my life with some stranger on the Internet. And you have demonstrated the reason why.

24 03 2008
Uhura

My Dearest Admiral

1) Please refrain from any references to my son and what his vocabulary may or may not be. I could easily get inappropriately personal with you & talk about your parents and their inability to control your sibling….because we all know that a badly behaved kid can always be traced to bad parenting right?

2) Stop making yourself look like a sexist two faced jerk: Yes-I typed the word fucking but someone else here used the word FUCKER and that person was referring to a child as in

MAKE THAT FUCKER PAY AND LEARN WHAT CONSEQUENCES REALLY ARE.

yet…interestingly… you issued no “tone it down” request to them.

I will not even point out what happened on the Fashion Foibles discussion…But alas there was a distinct LACK of you requesting folks to tone down their vulgarity on that thread…

Yes-it’s your blog; however, hypocrisy and triple standards applied to visitors / participants is not the way to go if you want it to be a success.

Thanks!

A loyal supporter of your blog,
Uhura

24 03 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

Dude, I am not Admiral Furious. Why the hell does everyone think I am?

An FAQ page’ll be posted to the blog soon to clear this issue (and many others) up.

24 03 2008
Uhura

I am well aware that you are not Admiral Furious.

Admiral Furious asked ME to tone down curse words but gave your ass a pass.

24 03 2008
Uhura

And the fact that you used the word “dude” leaves me wondering what a teenager is doing on this blog during school hours.

24 03 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

You…do…realize that this is my blog and not the Admiral’s….right?

24 03 2008
Kia

I think this was me…”Their pain tolerances increase. They learn to meditate the pain away like Shaolin Monks. Eventually, the beatings go from being a source of genuine fear to merely being a nuisance.”

Nothing hurts more than the Lecture.. Oh you disappoint me, how could you… all that stuff to really make you think about the “wrong” that was committed against humanity. Those were the worst because it took time. The beatings you’d get over, but the talking, shit I would ask if she wanted me to get the belt.

Admiral I was raised by a single woman and she was and still is NO JOKE!!!! She has a way with words like no other. Now I understand her, I used to say some crazy ish, back then, I wanted to call BCW lol. (shaking at the memories)…love ya mama

24 03 2008
Uhura

No-I did not realize that.

I thought it was Admiral’s Blog.

So-I can basically ignore his ass. Thanks for the clarification.

BTW-

The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) official policy statement [5] states that “Corporal punishment is of limited effectiveness and has potentially deleterious side effects. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that parents be encouraged and assisted in the development of methods other than spanking for managing undesired behavior.” The AAP states that any corporal punishment methods other than open-hand spanking on the buttocks or extremities “are unacceptable” and “should never be used”. Furthermore, they state that “The more children are spanked, the more anger they report as adults, the more likely they are to spank their own children, the more likely they are to approve of hitting a spouse, and the more marital conflict they experience as adults[16] Spanking has been associated with higher rates of physical aggression, more substance abuse, and increased risk of crime and violence when used with older children and adolescents.”[17]

The American Psychological Association opposes the use of corporal punishment in schools, juvenile facilities, child care nurseries, and all other institutions, public or private, where children are cared for or educated (Conger, 1975). They state that corporal punishment is violent, unnecessary, may lower self-esteem, is likely to train children to use physical violence, and is liable to instill hostility and rage without reducing the undesired behavior.[18]

24 03 2008
stuffblackpeoplehate

“…open-hand spanking on the buttocks or extremities”

That’s my definition of ‘beating’. That’s all you need. I didn’t say parents should confront their children in the octagon or anything.

This guy thinks otherwise: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=beat

24 03 2008
Uhura

Holy $hit-that guy is ultra funny…

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Uhura,

1) Do not take personal stabs and me and I will gratefully respect your wishes.

2) In what way am I being a sexist two faced jerk? In NO way have I taken any shots at anyone other than stating facts and opinions.

But since you will now ignore me, I don’t expect you to provide an answer. Thank God.

24 03 2008
brran1

I think it depends on the child honestly.
Some kids are just on chill mode 110% of the time and never get into trouble.
Some kids are ok but may fuck up a few times here or there.
And some kids just get in trouble for the hell of it.

All I’m trying to say is, you know your child better than anyone else. What works on one child may not work on another. If parents started disciplining their children when they were toddlers, everything wouldn’t spiral out of control and people wouldn’t be askin what happened to lil boo-boo when he gets locked up at 25 for armed robbery.

Think About It.

24 03 2008
Uhura

Admiral F-You have significant memory recall issues and this is probably due to the severe beatings you received as a child.

Fear not-everything you wrote is still here on the blog!

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Thank you brran1. That is part of what I was trying to say WHILE justifying spankings. I agree with 100% of what you just said.

MEANWHILE… I’d like to know what people think of the corporal punishment that is handed down in countries like… oh lets say… Singapore. Remember several years ago when a teenager went out and spray painted a bunch of people’s cars… including those belonging to politicians. What happened to him? Do you remember? They took a bamboo cane and beat him.

–Thoughts

24 03 2008
Uhura

Predictably-people will not be on board with that Singapore crap.

It may interest you to know that beating children is very common in Africa. I don’t think it’s doing any good though…

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Uhura, I asked a question and you gave a smart assed answer.

Show me how I’m being a sexist. Quote it. I’ll be glad to retort.

If not, please… put a sock in it.

24 03 2008
Uhura

Admiral-are you actually the product of a finctional two-parent home? Just curious : )

24 03 2008
Uhura

functional –ooops!

24 03 2008
Uhura

You’re being sexist by requesting that I tone down language but not asking the same from males who are engaging in similar behavior. Then you wrap it up in a nice guilty mommy bow.

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Considering both my brother and I have multiple advanced technical degrees and are successful contributors to society… I think its safe to say that our upbringing was and still is more than functional.

For you m’lady, I cannot say the same. Obviously your reading ability is most lacking as you claim (with possible cynicism) that you confused Chris, who is a friend of mine, with me. Being that we both happened to mention two different things from our pasts under the same blog, one with common sense would have been able to decipher the fact that Admiral Furious and the author stuffblackpeoplehate are two different people. You may or may not have… but one cannot determine how facetious another is being simply by reading words.

Uhura, I respect you… I’m sure you’re a wonderful black woman outside of this blog. But at this point, you’re making me yawn. You misinterpret what I write and you attempt to attack me with loose and irrational accusations. With that said, I’m certain that your childhood was unfortunately grim and gloomy… thus rendering the angry fire breathing, men hating woman you are today.

Good day.

24 03 2008
Kia

Yikes Admiral, Remind me to stay on your good side. lol

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

First of all, no one said anything directly to me… you did. Second of all, there have been plenty of other women on this board who have used profanities that I have said nothing to.

So once again, please find a rational argument to throw at me or be quiet.

24 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Sorry Kia, that was not toward you. That was toward Uhura.

24 03 2008
Seven

OMG! I just stumbled on this blog today. I seriously have tears in the wells of my eyes. This is so funny! BTW -if you really want to see some kids destroy their parents in public try shopping in Dunwoody or Alpharetta. Mid morning is best. I was in Target in Alpharetta last Friday shopping for a close friend’s daughter and there it was…little “Julie” have a BF with her mom. As I ducked behind a rack of clearance Winnie the Pooh jammys, she said it. “Weave me alone you stinky bitch!!” Was she stinky? Not sure, but lets just say I think the mother could smell what “Julie” was cooking, so she left her alone.

24 03 2008
Kia

I know, lol. That’s why I am gonna stay on the good side. But keep up the blows lol, it’s making my day go by a lot faster 🙂

24 03 2008
Hatorade

Care to mention your one “successful contribution to society” Admiral? Or is that just the fact that you finished school and do not make minimum wage? You are starting to sound like one of those ppl described in “Master’s Degrees” sooo darn proud of themselves for not dropping out multiple times out of their multiple advanced programs, they just gotta shove it in everybody elses face.

24 03 2008
Anal Kowboy

Admiral you are one of the most rambling individuals I have ever met in my life…

LOL.

24 03 2008
Anmarie

Hello 🙂 I am one of the women that use profanities all this site all the time.

That being said this shit can be simplified easily: Burlap

I have worked with children for many years and what makes for a lousy badly behaved child in my experience is a lazy ass parent. Meaning they are too lazy to actually put the energy into thinking of creative new ways to out think their children and to create miserable consequences for undesirable behaviors or actions.

Every child has a currency as parents you are to figure out that currency is and capitalize. Not all children are affected by beatings some are thrown over the edge by it and totally rebel. But they all have some shit they really love. You find out what is most precious to them and take control of their access to it. Works every time, tried and true. I’m so tired of having parental conferences where the mother or dad is complaining about their wit’s end (parents who yell and beat, I’ve seen it) and meanwhile their child is playing with a brand new PSP and adorned in the flyest new sneakers. I was on the train the other day with some friends and we all looked on in shock as we saw these 14 year olds acted the damn fool. The Damn fool! My friends quickly responded with the general these kids need they ass beat. First of all most of them are probably getting the knocked in the head as it is. They fight each other for fun, being able to take a solid hit only affords more street cred. and bragging rights (which is why we hear about vicious parental beatings all the time). My response to these children acting like human apes was: BURLAP. I looked at these children decked out in their expensive hood clothes and shook my head. If my children dared to behave outside of my will and good judgment they’d be wearing burlap pants with accompanying burlap Fred Flintstone tunics in front of all their little friends, hand crafted by me because I care enough to do the very best. Why? Because I’m only obligated by law to provide food, water, clothing. And best believe a humble kid will not be showing his or her ass.

There are a wide range of toys and special deserts and special outings that children love and their parents have power to give them access. But lazy and albeit tired ass parents ignore, throw things in anger without actually sitting down and correcting the child and they don’t take the time to figure out where to get them where it hurts if beatings aren’t cutting it. You know there was more than one model for slavery, so if something is not working go to plan B, then C. And if that ain’t working send them to live with a relative in the south (or where ever your people are from) away from their bad influences and away from the other kids so they don’t corrupt them too. Any good system must evolve in order to maintain control.

24 03 2008
Anmarie

You know back in the days when children HAD to wear burlap sacks to school, they knew how to say good evening, please, thank you, yes sir, or no ma’am. This expensive Northface having children are rude as hell.

24 03 2008
Har D. Har

Yep, beatings are good. I say we return to a time when whippins were allowed. Back to the stern days of our grandparents.

Back to the 1950’s.

Back to where a white man could beat a nignag’s ass until he straightened up and got in line. These blacks today are unruly. They need a good assbeatin’ to make ’em act right. Teach ’em to respect. Once they fear the white man, they will respect and obey him.

24 03 2008
Har D. Har

when my parents spanked me, it didn’t make me fear them. It made me hate them. It made me LOSE respect for them, because, having many siblings, at least once every few months I’d get a beating for something I didn’t do. But frankly, they didn’t care. Even when they beat me for something I did do, it just made me not want to be around them. It put a distance between us. It made me afraid to express myself to them at all because they had the power to hurt me. I always felt most relaxed and most happy when I was not home.

To top it all off, the hypocrisy of my parents lead to true resentment. Every once in a while my parents would *make us* do things we all knew were wrong. Then when we stole food cuz we were hungry, we got a beatin.

24 03 2008
Har D. Har

It’s like parents get off on this power they have over children. More than once, my parents laughed at my pain while being beaten. Nice. That made me feel AWESOME. Is this what Gitmo prisoners feel like?

24 03 2008
Har D. Har

thank you AnMarie, you hit it. Control access to what the child loves for negative reinforcement. And on the flip side:

GIVE THE CHILD WHAT HE NEEDS for positive reinforcement!
I took food cuz I was hungry. Feed me.
I spray painted the bridge cuz you weren’t home at 1am to stop me. Pay attention to me.
I looked at your porno tapes cuz I was curious. Educate me.
I ran away to that older dude’s apt. cuz I needed a hug. Love me.

24 03 2008
Mr. Smith

Ok, I was waiting for this little back and forth to be over. I think we do have to realize the difference between discipline and child abuse. Spanking your kids is nothing, hell taking em behind the woodshed may seem a little extreme but that’s far more acceptable than say pulling their hair, smacking your toddler in the face MULTIPLE times at the Verizon center (this was horrifying to be honest) just because they ran off, or punching them to the point the bruise or bleed.

THAT is beating your kids, but I guarantee you the kids who know nothing about discipline are the ones who were allowed to back talk, scream at, and even strike their parents with no thought of consequences. Quoting my allies up top, these are the little fuckers who deserve harsh discipline. If you don’t they become the ones who stay in their garage all day building God knows what then taking that unrelented sonofabitchism to school.

24 03 2008
StuffWhiteParentsLike

Reading your latest entry gave me an idea for my next topic for Stuff White Parents Like: Time Outs!

LOL!

http://stuffwhiteparentslike.wordpress.com/

25 03 2008
Anmarie

Mr. Smith, Kids only become horrible talking back monsters when they are already spoiled into behaving that way, in that case harsh spankings are only a temporary bandaid fix for the public embarassment. And it might not even work, that kinda kid only gets louder and more insane. You have to put into work of systems of consequence and rewards for all their behavior and be strong enough to be consistant. If there’s consistant structure in their lives and they are aware of your expectations then they won’t even be an issue in the store. But who takes the the time out for that, people just knock the shit out of their kids as things come up. Parenting is not some kind of video game in which all problems can be solved by wacking and smashing, you’re trying to train a decent human being into existence. That’s alot of freaking work that requires tons of thought and even just a tiny bit of wacking and smacking here is not a sub. for a plan and thought out lessons for your children.

Har D. Har – Definately Love and attention should be a given parental requirement, true that, and rewards of positive reinforcement for good behavior, always ness. BTW I’m sorry that you had that experience.

25 03 2008
Lolo

Wack-a-mole parenting does nothing but teach your kid to not get caught, if they’re smart and lucky enough to figure that out. You have to put some real thought into tormenting them or you’re doomed to getting hauled in Protective Services. When they act up in public, you just have to grab a handful of underwear and lift them up on their toes. Works every time and really, what’s a bystander going to do? Call and say that they saw you giving your kids wedgies in public?

Get creative people.

They are basically adorable little savages that need to be tricked and manipulated into behaving in a civilised and intelligent manner. If you put some thought into it, you can have a lot of fun. A lot more fun than whacking them or putting them into time out will ever bring either of you.

25 03 2008
zeptool

Perhaps it was just me, but unlike most of the people who’ve commented, I had a unyielding fear of my mother growing up. True, she was a single parent, so there was no one else to fear, but, she was just as intimidating. I wasn’t beaten much. Instead, she used ‘persuasive dialogue’. Example: As a child one day I became fidgety while waiting for the bus and decided to go buy a soda before it came. I missed the bus. Rather than go home and hide/call mom’s, I ran to school. She never knew about it until 2 years ago (and I’m 24 years old). Granted, I don’t know much about parenting, and I’m not quite sure if I want children, but I think a good deal of stern dialogue and a wee bit of spanking’s in order. I do agree that once they reach a certain age, dialogue should be relied more heavily upon, if not as the sole form of discipline.

25 03 2008
voodoobooty

Well as a Dominican (who make their kids kneel in rice under the hot sun) who went to Catholic school from K-12 the beatings and yokings were relentless. My mom had the flying chancleta (slipper), the rice spoon, and the belt ready and the nuns always had the rulers poised. Because I was a chicken, I feared the beatings and would try to keep my smart-ass/witty repartee, rolled-up uniform skirt, and sneaked cigarettes in check -but that shit was scarring, I loathed everyone and planned their methodical iron maiden exceutions in my head. I thought nuns and priests were evil godless people, I had no reverence or respect for those fuckers.
All that taught me was to be sneaky, crafty, and learn how to earn my degree at Grifter U. I never became “good” and I never stopped doing the shit my ass would get beaten for! Take that Sr. Maureen!

Punish them. Lock up the video games like I tell my students’ parents to do. Don’t buy those blood suckers shit. Make ’em wear sneakers from Payless or even worse – the horror – last season’s Jordans! The inhumanity! Arizona jeans from JCP! A Coby walkman! You heartless bitch!

25 03 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

Restriction always worked wonders on me when I was past the “spanking” age…you mean I’d lose my Nintendo controllers for a whole quarter of school until I got my shit together in the classroom?

Talk about long study hours…fuck!

25 03 2008
Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta)

Furthermore, Uhura should read the “Why You Shouldn’t Read This Blog” section and then commit seppuku.

25 03 2008
Anmarie

Geesh seriously, we agree again. I didn’t want to go here what the hell was that shit about Africa: “…beating children is very common in Africa. I don’t think it’s doing any good though…” Hell does this mean?
I definately haven’t been all over the continent, huge as it is, but i’ve been to 3 African countries and I guess people spanked ( didn’t see it) , but anytime I spent alot of time in a particular village or community people treated their children as treasure. Even if they do use spanking they took time to actually teach and hug their children rather than trying to buy love with materials. In Ghana traditional education even including how to wash your butt was a structured part of home life. I taught in a village there for a bit and those kids were the best kids ever i loved them and so eager to learn. Now I haven’t been every where in Africa but every child I met was cool with me, can’t say that about American kids.

25 03 2008
ninabrown

as a teacher of students with emotional disabilities, i see the decline of parenting year after year. the kids are running the parents!
it’s sad when over the past twenty years the concept of behavior self-contained classrooms have increased. what is the world coming to?
not to mention parents coming up to the school disrespecting the staff, cussing and what not. i’ve witnessed a parent tell her child not to listen to principal! i can go on, but i’m sleepy! great blog!

25 03 2008
Uhura

Admiral F: I have multiple degrees too-including an MBA; however, I don’t need to channel my degrees in an online entertainment blog in an effort to give weight to my opinions.

And the other respondent was quite correct-you are one rambling mofo.

Why don’t you try not revealing every detail of your wacky personal life in the blog?

I realize that you don’t like me or my opinions… but unless the owner of the blog bans me from this spot – I’ll be here.

25 03 2008
Uhura

Annmarie-It mens exactly what it looks like it means.

Spanking is very common in Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanking)-and it ain’t doing a whole lot of good: That continent is a hot mess.

25 03 2008
Uhura

LoLo is on to something that I believe strongly in terms of parenting.

I want to give my son the tools to make good decisions in my absence because I will not always be there.

Parenting by Terror or Whack-a-mole Parenting is only as effective as 1) an authority figure’s presence or 2) the possibility of an authority figure discovering the wrongdoing.

I feel like childhood training based on this will translate into an adult who only does the right thing when there’s a good chance of getting caught doing the wrong thing… Not an adult who does the right thing because it’s the right thing to do.

Now that my son is old enough to think certain things through, my first choice is talking about what happened and then taking away privileges / subtracting from the weekly allowance.

25 03 2008
Mr. Smith

Anmarie,

I don’t have kids I’m still in college, but the whole disciplining them well before they’re at the point of being candidates for those british nanny shows is what I’m talking about. There is seriously nothing wrong with spanking your kids if they have done something WRONG or have been blatantly disrespectful, which is what I’m pretty sure most of the beating stories are talking about. We’re not talking about a New Orleans police or LAPD style smackdown or round house dragon kick to the child’s face.

Angry ver. 3.2 brought up a great point about restrictions along with grounding, not only telling your kids they can’t play video games, but taking the controllers, games, memory slots whatever (Oh snap they knew about those!? My parents were on point with that stuff).

Subtracting their allowance or taking the car keys away work too. They drive all their friends to school and lug their sports gear around? Too bad, they should have thought about that before they decided to cross you.

25 03 2008
Lolo

I have wondered, although very briefly, about just how it came to that it was once acceptable to whip a child with a belt. Seriously, anyone who has ever gotten the belt knows just what I’m saying about how warped that shit is.

My mom was truly creative about her corporal punishments, even when she was being brutal. Being sent out to the tree to cut your own switch for your asswhippin used to be at least half the punishment for me. And oh yes, she was also a wielder of the flying shoe. I actually have been tempted to let loose with a shoe at times with my own kids but noooooo, I’m one of these enlightened parents that hope my kids will take care of me in my old age.

25 03 2008
Anonymous

Those of us who teach know that the students who get beat mercilessly tend to have the most behavioral problems while those who have parents that are actively involved in their children’s education in a positive way tend to be the best.

Just sayin…

25 03 2008
Uhura

Anon -Those of us with eyeballs know that…

25 03 2008
Anmarie

@ Mr. Smith as Oprah would say to people who love spankings; “you just don’t know how damaged you are”. Next time you find it difficult to relate to someone positively in a relationship, or have major issues with someone giving you orders at work although the person is your boss (just some examples not ness. you) it can all be traced back to your parents beating the crap out of you. Maybe not but I thought it was perfectly fine too untill I learned better. And if you can do better…

@Uhura. Africa the whole continent is a hot mess not because of the history of Colonialism, Arabic Slave Trade, Eurpean and American Slave Trade, not because of religious genocide and ethnic genocide fueled by European evil genius not because of the world bank and corruption. etc… But because of spanking, right…

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

My how I love the First Amendment.

25 03 2008
Uhura

It’s a hot mess because of all those things and the whole situation is made worse by a nation of adults who were abused as children….who grew up to think nothing of physical brutality and who continue to abuse their own children.

In your first paragrapg you spoke about the damage that spanking does. So drop the PC crap OK?

25 03 2008
Lolo

Man, for a split second here I wanted to spank half the people on this site.

Next!

25 03 2008
Uhura

If someone actually loved the First Amendment, they wouldn’t be constantly telling folks to shut up.

I smell Bullshit.

25 03 2008
Miss Cocoa Luv

Need I say that I love this blog. People with thought provoking conversation. People willing to agree to disagree. It’s just great. I don’t have children nor do I see them coming anytime soon but I know that when we were growing up and had a whooping or two, we would always say that we would never do that to our kids. Maybe it was just me… lol. Either way, these kids today for the most part do need some restrictions, but what we fail to realize is that a lot of these kids are being raised by kids themselves. I believe that my generation had a high teen pregnancy rate. They don’t know any more than our parents did when they were raising us. I have seen with my own eyes kids no more than 10 years old hustling (not drugs) on the train. Why the hell do they need money, oh because they want those new kicks. What about an allowance? Some of these kids curse worse than a sailor. Why are these babies out here on the train hustling? And if you think that I am making this up ride the A train in NYC from Harlem to BK. It’s serious. Some parents are lacking the patience that is needed to raise children. A spanking every now and then is needed, physical torture is not.

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Uhura wants to have sexual relations with me.

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

But before that… I think I agree with Angry Version 3.2

Angry ver. 3.2 (Beta) (02:47:47) :

Furthermore, Uhura should read the “Why You Shouldn’t Read This Blog” section and then commit seppuku.

25 03 2008
Uhura

Um….no she most certainly does not.

Remember

1) She is married.
2) She saw your photo.

25 03 2008
Uhura

AF should edit his posts….edit edit edit mofo… Brevity is the soul of wit.

25 03 2008
Uhura

Dear Whiteman / StuffWhitePeopleLike:

Since you’re getting ideas from this blog, will you be forwarding some of the profits from your book deal to the owner of this blog?

25 03 2008
Anmarie

Drop the ignorant bullshit people beat their children everywhere especially the US there are tons of abuse resports, really how could you be so obtuse. The continent having issues is not a direct result of spanking, ass. That was stupid ill informed comment, thinking before you make idiotic comments doesn’t make you PC. Damn fool.

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Go ‘head Anmarie.

I’d like to point out again, that Corporal Punishment includes caining in various parts of the country. Again, I point out the subject where an AMERICAN teenager was cained for defacing cars with a can of spray paint. Since then, apparently he’s a model citizen of the United States.

25 03 2008
Cause Problems

Some serious dick ridin goin on up in’ eeyah.

25 03 2008
Uhura

I am guessing that you did not read the info contained in the link.

Not surprising given your apparent socio-economical background & level of education.

BTW-Name calling is a definitive signal that you have run out of intellectual ammo.

25 03 2008
Uhura

Yes yes yes….AF will stroke Annmarrie and her weak assed commentary up until the moment she disagrees with him or says something he doesn’t like…

It shouldn’t take long….LOL!

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

(yawn) Look in the mirror.

25 03 2008
Cause Problems

AF been ridin her shit the whole time.

25 03 2008
Uhura

Is that what you do when you’re gratifying yourself?

25 03 2008
Uhura

This mofo forgot his pic was posted!

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

And I guess you aren’t riding her shit are you? Cause problems? Please go consult your parents before posting on a grown folks site before you get a beating.

BTW… Uhura… you might want to reread what YOU write before you begin insulting me again. Seems like you sure are riding the authors shit quite a bit there.

Again, Anmarie, go head girl.

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Uhura, you certainly do lack sophistication, couth, and maturity. I pity your husband… if you really have one. Your mouth flaps so much I’d mistaken you for a bitter hag who hasn’t been laid in quite some time… and is mad because no one will touch her.

The image you saw may or may not have been me… but I like the mystery of what I look like, so I’ll continue to neither confirm nor deny my true identity. Regardless, your hypocrisy is more than well known… as is your ignorance here on this board. And its humorous as you make yourself continue to look like a fool posting ridiculous comments. I love it.

I’m sure you’d say… “you’re foolish too… for commenting!”

Quite contrary. Taking the time to pull more and more shit from your mouth is most joyous. I’m certainly not bored today. So please… continue.

25 03 2008
Uhura

A 78-year-old German woman went into the hospital last month to have surgery on her leg. Because of a mixup, Frankenpost reports that she left the Hochfranken-Klinik in Münchberg, Germany, with an artificial anus!

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/03/german-surgeons.html

http://www.bio-pro.de/en/region/freiburg/magazin/01320/index.html

AF-what’s your excuse?

25 03 2008
Cause Problems

Fuck you Admiral! First Amendment Rights NUGGUH!!!!

25 03 2008
Admiral Furious

Wow… okay. 🙂

25 03 2008
Uhura

Ok-so…now you have moved from comments about my son to comments about my husband.

That’s original.

At least your comments are getting shorter.

25 03 2008
bluedoll

DISCIPLINE your children. If you don’t do it, do NOT get mad when someone else does. Discipline is not the same as abuse. And don’t start disciplining at age 9 or 10, start as soon as the child starts talking. My daugther KNOWS not to push Mommy or she will face consequences. Spanking is a last resort, depending on what the infraction is. And its not applicable to every child; like Admiral said, his parents tried it on the brother and it didn’t work. When they let him fall on his face and he had to clean it up, bam, he straightened out.

Today’s problem? Parents that aren’t adults themselves with kids. Kids thinking they run stuff. There is no demarcation between parent and child, thus no line between ADULT and child. Hell, I’m 31 WITH A CHILD OF MY OWN and I STILL defer to Mom and Dad. Why? Because I respect them. They brought me in this world and can and will still take me out.

25 03 2008
imaG

Woohooo Admiral Furious and Uhura. ❤ Fight fight fight!

25 03 2008
imaG

My 2 cents. A child needs a whooping, time out aint gonna do it. I had a post written up on whoopings, if you visit AB youll see it sometime soon – http://www.anythingblack.wordpress.com

26 03 2008
Mr. Smith

When did I say beating your kids was ok? What I said was a child needs reinforcement to keep their butt in line. If a spank counts as physical abuse, then a whole lot of us are going to jail. PLEASE stay focused people. And just to retaliate the Oprah comment, I find it hard to trust someone who refuses to be married, or have kids yet she’s telling me how to raise children. Like I said, I don’t have any, but basing on the way I was raised, I do not have trouble communicating with my loved one, let alone you all.

If I’m damaged as you seem to assume, I hate to think what you would describe people who swing a fist to a toddler in a public place. If people don’t have the patience to raise kids, maybe they should keep the belt on their pants tight.

26 03 2008
Mr. Smith

Oh and just in case I didn’t make it perfectly clear: My parents did not beat the crap out of me. My brother was spanked with a belt. SPANKED!

Please don’t assume Anmarie. It’s makes an Ass out of U and Me

26 03 2008
Anmarie

Mr. Smith Oprah’s had two of your life times and built an empire, don’t hate the woman knows something. You said: ” There is seriously nothing wrong with spanking your kids” Check your facts. I said: “(just some examples not ness. you)” did you even see that? I read and think before commenting. So the ass here is not me it might be you and of course…

Uhura

1. what do you know about my educational background? or my family background? You’re jumping to conclusions and making loose connections, AGAIN. Yet you don’t like your own background brought into the conversation. As Admiral said you’re a hypocrite.

2. Here are some of your brilliant contributions to recent discussions,You’re an intellectual giant.

a. “Soul food sucks

Soul food sucks

Soul food sucks”
(Did you learn this type of thing from your kid?)

b. “Wow-I did not realize that biatchez in the DC area like to wear empire waist tops & dresses. (Maybe I need to be more observant.) And, I did not realize that it was for that very wrong reason.”
(Unbelieveable you agreed with this shit said by an idiot but you like to get into everyone elses ass)

Your character is weak. And for your Info the Admiral and I have disagreed a couple times, but it doesn’t lead to a drag down brawl like our interactions with you, because frankly you’re an ass. Your comments are mostly silly blanket statements, and you have no sense of humor about it which makes you annoyning. Your most clever response contained a statement about the shape of your ass, because of course you have no self respect. And it still stands you’re an ass a socially retarded ass.

Cause Problems- whatev fool, not be mad at me cause you aint bad as me. 😛

Admiral – Holla! 🙂

26 03 2008
Uhura

Anmarie, I had to LOL @ this lumpy low brow drivel you typed.

More name calling means that you have retreated even further into the dark and horrific thought that you are completely out of valid statements to support your opinions.

Peep this:

1) I agree (or disagree) with issues and opinions not persons. You would at least appear to be more intelligent if you did the same.

2) The only reason you and AF cannot help but to repeatedly reply to my comments is because the two of you believe that I am the exact opposite of everything you stated.

29 03 2008
Mr. Smith

Anmarie… time out real quick.

[Head –> Desk. Repeat.]

Actually I didn’t pay much attention to it because I did not know ness was a word (except for that kid in super smash bros. but now im off topic).

Where I said you were out of line was when you assumed my parents beat me as a child, which is not only insulting to their character, but is just flat out not true. When I was out of line, my bad behavior was corrected. I got my video game controllers taken away. I was put on restriction when I came home from school. When I was really young when a spank would not make me laugh it off while rubbing my butt cheeks because my mom’s wooden spoon had a strike of fury. Nothing scarred me or psychologically damaged me or any of these other excuses experts are making up in order to justify for children’s bad behavior to the point where they will never be responsible for anything.

It’s like in real life. There are a set of rules, and when you break them you get punished. I was only spanked when I wore a diaper anyway which softened the blow and the only thing that made me cry as a child was my parents reaction (upset with me, angry, scared that I had fell and hit my head, etc). Seriously, a time out or sitting a 3 year old down for an “adult conversation” after he just threw a temper tantrum and tore up the bathroom is not going to solve a problem.

So I guess what I really need to get down to is this: I am not advocating beating your kids, just as I would not advocating beating your spouse. I just don’t see spanking considered as beating. If I did, then said act would not occur in the bedroom 😛

30 03 2008
FilthyAmerican

I can safely say that I received my share of ass-whoopings as a kid, especially since I was raised by my Granny. It didn’t stop me from sneaking out of the bathroom window to go smoke weed with my friends. Nor did it make me a person with better moral character, etc. As an adult, I had no intention on giving my son beatings, since I felt like it was an ineffective method of discipline. I have lost it on ocassion and spanked him. When I have threatened to beat him for misbehaving, and asked him if he wants to get hit, his response is an emphatic “Yes. Hit me mommy.” It’s really weird. I think he’s attempting to call my bluff. Either that or he’s a masochist. Incidentally, the only effective ways I’ve found to make him behave is to 1. Take away things he loves (like blocks, the Transformers Movie) or 2. Put him in his room or 3. both. I’m not saying this is the way to discipline anyone else’s child, this just works for my situation. Some people my age (29) learned to respect their parents out of what I assume was fear of getting a serious beat down. For example, a guy I know still fears his father, who would make him pick out his own switch before beating him until he said his name was Toby.

15 04 2008
LMAO

ONE Point for Uhura…ZERO points for Team Admiral and Anmarie =(

21 04 2008
Children II « Stuff Black People Hate

[…] Children II 21 04 2008 Part of an ongoing series. See the original Children article here. […]

22 04 2008
I.H.

“Figure 3: Parenting techniques, as recommended by God Himself”

OMG. That was classic!

I’m new and I love this site! Keep up the good work!

22 04 2008
Shadow Star

White people, beat your kids…by Russel Peters, demonstrated by Naruto.

hilarious!

28 05 2008
blackberry molasses

Co worker sent this to me… my ass would have been under the jail if my child even THOUGHT about doing this to me….

23 06 2008
4m_no_2_dc

@ blackberry molasses….
she fucked up the first time he raised his voice…. you smack that ass. i will break you arm, face and neck before you EVER raise your voice at me.

have you guys ever seen arrested development when the dad used te one armed guy to teach his kids a lesson….LMAO!!!

“and thats why you don’t yell”

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